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I don't know for sure because the label doesn't list the Ash content, but it looks pretty high-- the calculator I used suggests something like 40% carbs :eek:. Even without the calculator, since the second ingredient is brown rice, followed by things like sweet potato, it doesn't look like a good choice for a diabetic, unfortunately :(.

I forget-- have you tried Dr. Elsey's Clean Protein food? That is supposed to be low-carb, I don't know if it would agree with Rufus' need for less allergenic food, though.
 
Nan & Amber said:
I don't know for sure because the label doesn't list the Ash content, but it looks pretty high-- the calculator I used suggests something like 40% carbs :eek:. Even without the calculator, since the second ingredient is brown rice, followed by things like sweet potato, it doesn't look like a good choice for a diabetic, unfortunately :(.

I forget-- have you tried Dr. Elsey's Clean Protein food? That is supposed to be low-carb, I don't know if it would agree with Rufus' need for less allergenic food, though.
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Yeah, I have that one too. Both cats won't eat that either :banghead::banghead::arghh:
 
I might have to get a higher carb food and just adjust his insluin up. Definelty not the solution I want, but things are not going good. I could try mixing the YA food half and half with another hypoallergic food and hope they eat that.
 
It is what it is. The important thing is that he eats something and it doesn't make him feel yucky. He'll have a much better quality of life doing that and a slightly higher insulin dose than on a lower dose and miserable.
 
If you're lucky, once you find a hypoallergenic food that he can eat, sometimes these food intolerances/IBD can calm themselves down. One of my cats was unable to handle chicken (of all things) for quite a while, but I eventually was able to reintroduce it into her diet so that now she can eat most regular commercial foods. So as much of pain as this is, it may not be forever.
 
Nan & Amber said:
It is what it is. The important thing is that he eats something and it doesn't make him feel yucky. He'll have a much better quality of life doing that and a slightly higher insulin dose than on a lower dose and miserable.
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Totally. I was talking to the IM specialist and she was more concerned/excited that he might go in remission. That would be awesome, but not if he won't eat and scratches himself and has IBD.
 
Nan & Amber said:
If you're lucky, once you find a hypoallergenic food that he can eat, sometimes these food intolerances/IBD can calm themselves down. One of my cats was unable to handle chicken (of all things) for quite a while, but I eventually was able to reintroduce it into her diet so that now she can eat most regular commercial foods. So as much of pain as this is, it may not be forever.
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Pretty sure he is allergic to turkey, but who knows if that applies to other poultry as well. Keep getting different answers. And as of right now it's SO SO difficult to get him to eat. Nauseaous all the time. I almost want to put him on pred for a couple months as see if that calms his GI down enough to eat the novel foods. I really don't want to, but...
 
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Pretty sure he is allergic to turkey, but who knows if that applies to other poultry as well. Keep getting different answers. And as of right now it's SO SO difficult to get him to eat. Nauseaous all the time. I almost want to put him on pred for a couple months as see if that calms his GI down enough to eat the novel foods. I really don't want to, but...
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He might have multiple issues-- allergic to one or more things, and then the IBD flareups he gets from that trigger some other secondary intolerances. So hard to isolate. I think the best thing to do is what you are doing, just keep working to find something that works for him, whatever the ingredient list.
 
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He might have multiple issues-- allergic to one or more things, and then the IBD flareups he gets from that trigger some other secondary intolerances. So hard to isolate. I think the best thing to do is what you are doing, just keep working to find something that works for him, whatever the ingredient list.
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Hard thing is really the only symptoms are constipation, nausea, and itching and scratching. I'll have to try a food for at least 60 days before I know whether or not it's ok for him.
 
Actually, this one looks a bit better (#2 on Google!):

http://scheyderweb.com/cats/catfood.html

It agrees with the first one on "wet matter" carbs, but goes on to also calculate a "dry matter" number, which is says is a better indicator.

The thing about all of these that you have to keep in mind is that what is on the nutrition label is just the minimum and maximum numbers for nutrients, not actual values-- so you really don't know what's actually in what you are feeding unless you call the company and they choose to give you that info. Like I said, ballpark at best.
 
Thank you! I think I'll use the calculators and then call the food companies tomorrow and see how the numbers match up.
 
So I think I found a "lower" carb option. Instinct LID rabbit is 32% carbs. If I can mix it half & half with YA LID 16 % carbs.

Brings me to next question. Is it ok to mix dry foods together? I knwo if you switch foods you mix them together for a bit.
 
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So I think I found a "lower" carb option. Instinct LID rabbit is 32% carbs. If I can mix it half & half with YA LID 16 % carbs.

Brings me to next question. Is it ok to mix dry foods together? I knwo if you switch foods you mix them together for a bit.
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Young Again Zero Carb LIMITED food is around 1%.
 
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