Whutamigonnado with you, Snickers??

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DreMeister

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Well she went to the vet for a checkup last Wed. She has been slowing down eating, and drinking a ton of water but not doing much else but laying around. They did a complete bloodwork and thyroid panel, all were ok except for a little low on K, so gave us a gooey medicine for that. Her BS was 175. Now she has the runs, not drinking much, losing weight, and barely eating. She won't touch her favorite foods. I've been giving her ham lunch meat and wife fixed her some fish, which she does pick around on. We're giving her whatever we can just to get something into her. Thank goodness she's not vomiting. Yet. Otherwise she just lays around staring off into oblivion. Wife wants to take her back to vet tomorrow. Seems like every time she comes home from vet, she acts different. I just don't know what to do anymore. They basically told her they can't do any more for her. What?? At first she can't eat enough, then she just stops. She's losing weight even though she was eating like a horse. She cannot keep losing weight or she won't be around much longer. She's at 10.4 lbs. Since they pretty much said there is nothing wrong, is it just having diabetes that does this to her?
 
When the bloodwork was performed, did you get a copy of the results? Do you test her blood sugar at home?

Having unregulated diabetes can cause a wide variety of symptoms and organ damage, which then leads to more bad symptoms. A regulated diabetic wouldn't be showing these symptoms because of the diabetes, there would be another factor at play.

Chronic diarrhea can cause dehydration and eventually malnutrition. Having diarrhea may also cause inappetence.

What did the vet recommend for her diarrhea? What have you tried for her diarrhea?
 
When the bloodwork was performed, did you get a copy of the results? Do you test her blood sugar at home?

Having unregulated diabetes can cause a wide variety of symptoms and organ damage, which then leads to more bad symptoms. A regulated diabetic wouldn't be showing these symptoms because of the diabetes, there would be another factor at play.

Chronic diarrhea can cause dehydration and eventually malnutrition. Having diarrhea may also cause inappetence.

What did the vet recommend for her diarrhea? What have you tried for her diarrhea?
No we don't get result copies unless we ask for them, and since my wife took her to the vet, she didn't ask for the results. We don't check at home because she barely lets us give her shots. The vet has to draw blood with a syringe because she won't let anyone get near her ears. She didn't start with diarrhea until a day after the vet visit. She's hiding right now, she may have to go back to vet today yet. I can tell to she is getting weaker, not walking much and just laying mostly.
 
Is this the same old vet - or have you changed vets?
Same old vet. Wife is fighting me on changing. She likes the fact that it's only 3 blocks to the this vet vs. all the way the other side of our small town, about 3 miles. Yeah that's a cross-country trip.
 
Have you ever had the pancreas test done. There is the specific fPLI which needs to be sent to an outside lab such as IDEXX or the snap test which can be done in the vets office. The snap test will only give a yes or no for pancreatitis but will not tell how severe it is. The specific fPLI will give the actual range.

Often refusal of food and lethargy can be signs of nausea and pain which are symptoms of pancreatitis.
 
I still think you need a second opinion, something is not right and you need someone who can take a step back and start from scratch, and who knows about feline diabetes.
 
I hate to sound harsh, but I really think Snickers needs a new vet. Ask the wife if her convenience is more importnt then Snickers life. Perhaps she doesn't understand how ill Snickers really is. It would be better if you could find a way for you to take him to the vet yourself. I know it can be hard to work around a job and life seems to get in the way. I think this could cost Snickers his life if he keeps going to the same vet.
 
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Have you ever had the pancreas test done. There is the specific fPLI which needs to be sent to an outside lab such as IDEXX or the snap test which can be done in the vets office. The snap test will only give a yes or no for pancreatitis but will not tell how severe it is. The specific fPLI will give the actual range.

Often refusal of food and lethargy can be signs of nausea and pain which are symptoms of pancreatitis.
I know they did some sort of pancreatic test the last time but I don't know what kind.
 
I really think Snickers needs a new vet. Ask the wife if her convenience is more importnt then Snickers life. It would be better if you could find a way for you to take him him to the vet yourself. I know it can be hard to work around a job and life gets in the way. I think this could cost Snickers his life if he keeps going to the same vet.
I'm beginning to wonder if my wife cares that much about her. I know she's getting tired of the kitty waking her up multiple times every night. We leave food out for her, she won't eat it, wakes us up, wife feeds her, she don't eat, lather, rinse, repeat. The other vet used to work for our current one, she just went out on her own this year.
 
The whole thing of the vet saying that they can't do anymore for her is just wrong!! As much as going to the other vet is inconvenient I would seriously suggest having your wife...or you if possible...make the extra effort to see a proper vet. You can get all the test results from the other vet and if necessary, just have a consult meeting with the different vet with just the test results that have been done so far to get some feedback on whether you want to bring your kitty into them.
 
The whole thing of the vet saying that they can't do anymore for her is just wrong!! As much as going to the other vet is inconvenient I would seriously suggest having your wife...or you if possible...make the extra effort to see a proper vet. You can get all the test results from the other vet and if necessary, just have a consult meeting with the different vet with just the test results that have been done so far to get some feedback on whether you want to bring your kitty into them.
I'm worried about Snicky today. She won't eat anything and is just sitting under the coffee table in the meatloaf, or I call it, doorstop, position. She may have to go in today. At least she's not throwing up. I'm gonna have to do some arm twisting and go with a new vet.
 
Is there anything we can do to coax her to eat? She ain't gonna last long like this I'm afraid.


If she is in the meatloaf position then she is either nauseous, in pain or both. She will need to see the vet and get something for the nausea such as cerenia, something for the pain, such as buprenex (buprenorphine ) and possibly some SubQ fluid for dehydration.


ETA This really does sound a lot like pancreatitis, so if you take her in, see if the vet has the snap test for pancreatitis. It is only a yes or a no, but at least you will have an answer to that
 
Like the others I do not want to sound harsh but this could be a fairly easy thing to fix--
it sure would be awful if your kitty gets so bad that fixing the problem is too late--
pancreas issues are very common and lots to fix them-
SQ fluids-
ondansertron for nausea
cypro to stimulate appetite
cerenia for nausea
reglan for mobility
none of this is hard-
can you try some gerbers 2 stage baby food? most like the ham--and some prefer to lick off your finger-at least until you get proper care she has to eat or her liver will become hepatic-
1 of mine gets meds 2 x a day and it takes minutes --literally.....
please for your kitty get a better doctor before it is too late.....:bighug:
 
If she is in the meatloaf position then she is either nauseous, in pain or both. She will need to see the vet and get something for the nausea such as cerenia, something for the pain, such as buprenex (buprenorphine ) and possibly some SubQ fluid for dehydration.


ETA This really does sound a lot like pancreatitis, so if you take her in, see if the vet has the snap test for pancreatitis. It is only a yes or a no, but at least you will have an answer to that
They did some sort of test for pancreatitis and keep saying she doesn't have it.
 
You really need to insist that you get a copy of ALL the tests that have been done so far. You have paid for these tests and it is your right to ask for a copy of all of them. There are a few people on this site that are able to read bloodwork/urinalysis and other tests as accurately ( or better) than many vets can. Also if you ever needed to go to the ER having all the test results would be of major help. Also if you do go to the other vet, this would save you from having to repeat many of the tests again right away.
 
I'm thinking she may have dental issues again. Don't know what caused the diarrhea. I asked my wife if they looked into her mouth and she says no. Of course she won't tell them to either, and that irks me. I noticed when she tries to eat hard stuff, it comes back out of her mouth, and that was with the not so good for her treats she always eats no matter what. I hate it that they don't look at her mouth knowing she's had dental work done 3 times in the past. Wife gonna take her back to vet tomorrow, I said for god's sake tell them to look at her mouth!!!! After tomorrow, because I know we can get her in there at a short notice, I'm taking her to the new vet to get new eyes to look at her. It's been a fun day. She crapped on herself this morning and stunk. Wife comes home from work, puts her in tub for bath, gets her dried off, kitty goes right into litter box, gets litter all over her, goes to poop, gets out before done, got it all over herself again, goes into bedroom and lays on carpet, smears poop all over herself and carpet, and back into the tub she goes. Wife has very short fuse right now, I just keep saying it's not Snickers' fault, she's sick dernit!
 
You really need to insist that you get a copy of ALL the tests that have been done so far. You have paid for these tests and it is your right to ask for a copy of all of them. There are a few people on this site that are able to read bloodwork/urinalysis and other tests as accurately ( or better) than many vets can. Also if you ever needed to go to the ER having all the test results would be of major help. Also if you do go to the other vet, this would save you from having to repeat many of the tests again right away.
My wife doesn't ask for them and they won't volunteer them. I've said before, I have to work so she has to take her there, and there's a huge communication breakdown from what the vet says and what I hear at home. Kinda like you can cut your finger and by the time news gets to the other end of town, you lost your whole arm.
 
You need to take control of this situation, if you are thinking of taking her to a new vet why expect your wife to take her back to the old one? You take Snickers to the new vet tomorrow and call up beforehand so they can get all her results from the old vet. I have to work and have no-one to take my kitty to the vet so I make time, it's all a question of priorities.

Sorry if I sound harsh but by leaving it all to your wife you are permitting this situation to continue whilst watching your cat get more unwell. A cat who won't eat is telling you something, you need to start listening to Snickers.
 
My wife doesn't ask for them and they won't volunteer them. I've said before, I have to work so she has to take her there, and there's a huge communication breakdown from what the vet says and what I hear at home. Kinda like you can cut your finger and by the time news gets to the other end of town, you lost your whole arm.


Is there any way you could call the vets office and speak to them yourself...you should be able to just speak to the receptionist there. Tell them that you want copies of all the tests that have been done and then ask your wife to stop by and pick up the package. Maybe your wife has not been forward enough or insistent enough about having copies made.
 
I'm thinking she may have dental issues again. Don't know what caused the diarrhea. I asked my wife if they looked into her mouth and she says no. Of course she won't tell them to either, and that irks me. I noticed when she tries to eat hard stuff, it comes back out of her mouth, and that was with the not so good for her treats she always eats no matter what. I hate it that they don't look at her mouth knowing she's had dental work done 3 times in the past. Wife gonna take her back to vet tomorrow, I said for god's sake tell them to look at her mouth!!!! After tomorrow, because I know we can get her in there at a short notice, I'm taking her to the new vet to get new eyes to look at her. It's been a fun day. She crapped on herself this morning and stunk. Wife comes home from work, puts her in tub for bath, gets her dried off, kitty goes right into litter box, gets litter all over her, goes to poop, gets out before done, got it all over herself again, goes into bedroom and lays on carpet, smears poop all over herself and carpet, and back into the tub she goes. Wife has very short fuse right now, I just keep saying it's not Snickers' fault, she's sick dernit!
and you are right it is not Snickers fault.... at least she is trying and in the litter box... she needs your help (and drivers license!)
 
Make a list of what you want to know from the vet (not eating, loose bowels, copies of test results, teeth etc) make three copies. Have your wife hand one over to the vet, saying "my husband wants answers to these questions". Have your wife write down whatever the vet says on the 2nd. Keep the third to refer to when you phone to grill the vet. This situation is awful. Your cat needs to eat!
 
You need to take control of this situation, if you are thinking of taking her to a new vet why expect your wife to take her back to the old one? You take Snickers to the new vet tomorrow and call up beforehand so they can get all her results from the old vet. I have to work and have no-one to take my kitty to the vet so I make time, it's all a question of priorities.

Sorry if I sound harsh but by leaving it all to your wife you are permitting this situation to continue whilst watching your cat get more unwell. A cat who won't eat is telling you something, you need to start listening to Snickers.
Problem is I have a big project going on with work and I simply cannot take off. Plus I was on call and I can't go anywhere as I have to respond immediately to trouble. So I cannot tie myself up even when I'm at home. It's my wife or nobody.
 
Well we got her some baby food this evening. She couldn't eat it fast enough. She's resting on her blanket now. I don't want to give her too much at once. I still haven't seen her drink water today and she hasn't peed all day. Worried about dehydration now. At least something's in her tummy. She's going to vet tomorrow, and I told my wife explicitly to get copies of the tests they did last Wed. Thanx for all the help.
 
So sorry to hear that Snickers isn't feeling so good and having problems eating.

That Snickers liked the baby food gives you two clues:

1. It is soft and therefore is unlikely to hurt the mouth.

2. It is bland and easily digestible and therefore may be less likely to trigger intestinal discomfort.

Your current vet is very remiss in failing to check for gingivitis or other dental issues. It's the number one thing to check for all diabetics as they are very prone to dental/mouth issues.

Research any potential side effects of the treatment she was prescribed recently. Based on the clinical signs you describe I recommend you look for gastrointestinal side effects in particular. Good sites include:

www.drugs.com

http://marvistavet.com/pharmacy-center.pml

http://www.peteducation.com/index.cfm?c=1


As others have already suggested above, so many of Snickers' clinical signs point to pancreatitis as a potential issue. IBD is another avenue to explore. If Snickers were mine I'd look to get a vet to treat 'as if' nausea was a problem and look to get a prescription for ondansetron (and possibly a dose or two of Cerenia on top, especially if she vomits). If nausea is the problem the aforementioned meds work very, very effectively. I'd also recommend

When you get the test results, look at kidney, liver, B12/folate, enzyme and cholesterol markers for clues. Most importantly look for results for SNAP fPL or Spec fPL; these are the most commonly used tests for pancreatitis. If you don't see results for these tests ask the vet for the specific name of the test(s) the vet commissioned for pancreatitis so that you can make sure Snickers really has been tested for it. (There's at least one lab that offers an equivalent test to the IDEXX Spec fPL but I can't remember the name.)

It might be worth trialling a course of buprenorphine to see whether there is any occult pain. Also, if Snickers responds to the bupe then the reduction in stress and pain could help speed healing of any underlying issues.

It must be very frustrating for you that home testing has not proved feasible in Snickers' case; it could give you so much valuable information. Try home urinalysis if you can; it's better than no testing at all.

Sending prayers and positive vibes for Snickers, Dre. I know how very deeply you love her and I know all too well how heart-wrenching it is to see someone you love so much feeling so poorly. I feel for you from the bottom of my heart and I fervently hope that you'll get to the root of the problem really quickly so that Snickers will be able to eat properly and feel better very soon.

:bighug::bighug::bighug:


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Have your wife get ALL tests that have been done since you started. :bighug:
I fully second Mary Ann's advice on this. Not all test panels are identical and it's important to garner all test data possible. It's also very helpful to compare the same marker over a period of time, hence the value of securing Snickers' historical test results from which you can build up a spreadsheet to help you track and compare results.


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Update on Snickers. She went to vet this morning and is hospitalized. I went after work to check on her, and this time they wouldn't let me see her, just said she's doing fine and doctor will call you later. I did not care for the girl at the front desk at all. The main one of 2 vets called me, they're husband and wife that own this office, she said they did a white count and it was good so Snick doesn't have an infection but they are giving antibiotic anyhow. Her BG was 437 tonite so she gave her 3 units of lantus and will check again in morning. She's been eating, a little, of baby food. I said we got her some yesterday and she was really cleaning it up last nite, but still wasn't drinking any water. They have her on iv fluids. I said, BE SURE to take a good look into her mouth with the dental problems she had in the past. Last time they had to knock her out to get a good look. So, bottom line is for now she's stable, and they'll check her in morning and give wife a call. I hate the thought of her in there again by herself, but she's got to get better. Of course wife forgot to ask for test results, so I'll have to harangue her again when she gets home from work tonite. That's all I know right now.
 
If they gave her 3 units of Lantus tonight and she is still not eating well, they HAVE to check her glucose levels again before morning!!!!!!

The fact that they would not let you see her is unforgivable!!! I hope the treatment they are giving her will perk her back up. Did they even say WHAT they were treating her for? As soon as you can get her out of there, get ALL the test results and take them to the other vet. This clinic is NOT a good place

Prayers sent that Snickers recovers quickly :bighug: :bighug: :bighug:
 
If they gave her 3 units of Lantus tonight and she is still not eating well, they HAVE to check her glucose levels again before morning!!!!!!

The fact that they would not let you see her is unforgivable!!! I hope the treatment they are giving her will perk her back up. Did they even say WHAT they were treating her for? As soon as you can get her out of there, get ALL the test results and take them to the other vet. This clinic is NOT a good place

Prayers sent that Snickers recovers quickly :bighug: :bighug: :bighug:
Thanx for the encouragement. No they didn't say what they were treating her for, and I know this will be the last visit tonite for the office until tomorrow morning. I don't think they have a clue as to what's going on with her. She's been hospitalized there about 5 times this year so far. This will cost me another $500 I guess. They have about 8 vets in that place so you hardly ever see the same one. I know it's time to take her somewhere else regardless of what my wife wants.
 
Thanx for the encouragement. No they didn't say what they were treating her for, and I know this will be the last visit tonite for the office until tomorrow morning. I don't think they have a clue as to what's going on with her. She's been hospitalized there about 5 times this year so far. This will cost me another $500 I guess. They have about 8 vets in that place so you hardly ever see the same one. I know it's time to take her somewhere else regardless of what my wife wants.

They should have told you SOMETHING about what they were trying to do. They are giving her an antibiotic even though there is no indication of infection...they have her on IV..not that it is a bad idea, but why and are they giving anything other than a normal saline drip..are they giving potassium?? There is just no proper communication going on. How can you know what the best thing is for Snickers, when they don't tell you what is wrong??

Sorry to be so angry about this, but if it were me I would have torn a strip off everyone at the clinic. I NEED to know what is going on and it is the right of every pet parent to have that information. You have had Snickers at the vets numerous times with no long term improvements and nothing to show except a lighter wallet.

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They should have told you SOMETHING about what they were trying to do. They are giving her an antibiotic even though there is no indication of infection...they have her on IV..not that it is a bad idea, but why and are they giving anything other than a normal saline drip..are they giving potassium?? There is just no proper communication going on. How can you know what the best thing is for Snickers, when they don't tell you what is wrong??

Sorry to be so angry about this, but if it were me I would have torn a strip off everyone at the clinic. I NEED to know what is going on and it is the right of every pet parent to have that information. You have had Snickers at the vets numerous times with no long term improvements and nothing to show except a lighter wallet.

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I just think they haven't the slightest idea what to do with her. There's gotta be SOMETHING wrong. I said there are many kitties with diabetes that don't get sick like this. She's only 11 yrs old. They have told us before "well there's nothing more we can do". What?? They give her test after test after test and claim they can't find anything wrong. She comes home and is good for a while then goes right back down the tubes. I've spent over $2,500 on her so far since January without much to show for it. I just don't think she's too far gone to put down yet. As long as she can still get around on her own and eat and use her litter box without assistance I want to keep her alive.
 
I just think they haven't the slightest idea what to do with her. There's gotta be SOMETHING wrong. I said there are many kitties with diabetes that don't get sick like this. She's only 11 yrs old. They have told us before "well there's nothing more we can do". What?? They give her test after test after test and claim they can't find anything wrong. She comes home and is good for a while then goes right back down the tubes. I've spent over $2,500 on her so far since January without much to show for it. I just don't think she's too far gone to put down yet. As long as she can still get around on her own and eat and use her litter box without assistance I want to keep her alive.
I just don't understand vets not allowing owners to visit their cats. You wonder what they are hiding. At my vets, people go in and out to visit their pets whenever the office is open. It might comfort Snickers if you brought in something with your scent on it or her favorite toy or blanket. As soon as she is se to go home I would tell them off. Say not allowing you to see your own cat is criminal. If your child was in the hosital, you could be with her.
 
First, call the vet office yourself and request ALL medical records. You can pick up on your way home or to work or they can hand them to your wife. Maybe they can email them to you. Second I agree with the others. Your kitty is telling you something is wrong and depending on you for help. Third, there is no overnight staff and they increased the insulin with a cat not eating well. IMO that's a recipe for disaster. You need a new vet one who cares about your kitties well being. Can you be called at work so when wife is there you can be conferenced in to hear? I would definitely make time to get there and talk to them. YOU are the voice for your kitty. Speak up.
 
I just don't understand vets not allowing owners to visit their cats. [...] not allowing you to see your own cat is criminal. If your child was in the hos[p]ital, you could be with her.

This. On the most powerful anabolic steroids known to humankind.

They have told us before "well there's nothing more we can do".
There may be nothing more that they can do, but it doesn't automatically follow that nothing can be done. Even if you need to stick with that practice for pragmatic reasons, Dre, I think you could possibly argue the case with the missus that a second (or even third) opinion from an external practice is justified at this time; they could potentially identify the problem and then leave your regular vets to issue prescriptions and run any routine diagnostics required for monitoring.

Sending prayers and healing thoughts for Snickers and :bighug::bighug::bighug: for her bean; she's blessed to have you fighting her corner.


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I hate to sound harsh, but I really think Snickers needs a new vet. Ask the wife if her convenience is more importnt then Snickers life. Perhaps she doesn't understand how ill Snickers really is. It would be better if you could find a way for you to take him to the vet yourself. I know it can be hard to work around a job and life seems to get in the way. I think this could cost Snickers his life if he keeps going to the same vet.
I couldnt agree more. Right from the OP's very first post on our board i strongly recommended switching to a new vet. To me, these continuing problems are a result of poor veterinary care, and its not going to change until a better vet is consulted. I cant even read more of snickers sad story at the hands of this awful vet. It just upsets me.
 
I just don't understand vets not allowing owners to visit their cats. You wonder what they are hiding. At my vets, people go in and out to visit their pets whenever the office is open. It might comfort Snickers if you brought in something with your scent on it or her favorite toy or blanket. As soon as she is se to go home I would tell them off. Say not allowing you to see your own cat is criminal. If your child was in the hosital, you could be with her.
Usually we could see her but whatever reason yesterday they didn't. She's gonna be there overnight again and come home tomorrow. My buddy and his wife clean the office after hours and I told them Snicky was in there and to go visit her. Snickers knows them so I feel a little better.
 
First, call the vet office yourself and request ALL medical records. You can pick up on your way home or to work or they can hand them to your wife. Maybe they can email them to you. Second I agree with the others. Your kitty is telling you something is wrong and depending on you for help. Third, there is no overnight staff and they increased the insulin with a cat not eating well. IMO that's a recipe for disaster. You need a new vet one who cares about your kitties well being. Can you be called at work so when wife is there you can be conferenced in to hear? I would definitely make time to get there and talk to them. YOU are the voice for your kitty. Speak up.
My wife will have to deal with this. I'm working in an area right now that has crappy phone service plus I really can't take the time to spend on the phone. I told her again not to forget to get the records.
 
My wife is horrible about remembering to ask for things, and doesn't speak up when she should. I had it out with her a while ago when she said the vet asked why she was on a certain food that's bad for her. I asked her if she told her that last person that looked at Snicky told her to feed her that particular food just to get her eating. She said no and I said you HAVE to tell them that stuff! I'm not gonna let kitty go down without a fight. When I first got her, I didn't like cats at all. We were getting married and she wanted a cat but it had to stay here before she moved in because she lived in an animal free apartment. So, we adopted Snickers from our local shelter. I will always get my animals from a shelter as they need homes the worst. She was about a year old then. Snickers lived with me for about 2 months before wife moved in. It was trying for me, Snickers was a very odd cat, I couldn't hardly deal with her and she had to stay here during the day by herself. I know she was hard to handle but she had been adopted and brought back to the shelter twice before because she didn't work out for the families. I used to play jazz music on the radio when I was at work to try and calm her down. I came home one day and she had knocked the lamp over onto the floor, and I yelled at her. She crawled under the dining room table and cried. I felt so bad and I coaxed her out with some treats. I said, alright cat, it's just you and me, and you're going to learn to like it here whether you want to or not. The rest is history so yes I'm going to fight for her until the end, which I hope is a long way off yet.
 
Thank you for the prayers and well wishes for Snickers. She is home now resting comfortably on her blanket. She's eating so that is good. She wasn't eating much yesterday so they decided to leave her stay another night. On the other hand, I have much to be pissed about. They couldn't find an infection, but gave her a 2cd round of antibiotics last night, and we have to continue giving her oral drops 2wice a day. My wife goes to pick her up today, there's one person up front, no one comes out to explain anything, my wife asks no questions, and of course FORGOT to get test results for the umpteenth time. I am not happy. What do I have to do, quit my job so I can do all this myself the way it should be done??? I just want to bang my head against the wall right now. I don't know anything more about Snicky now than I did when she took her back in. Good Lord Almighty!! At least Snicky is feeling better. I missed not having her here for 2 days.
 
Glad to see Snickers is home and feeling better. What a mess with trying to get information from the vet. Is there any way you could call them before work or after work, depending on the times they are open and tell them YOURSELF that you want copies of ALL tests since Day 1 and all medications given and the reasons for them. They could put together a package with all the information, put it all in a folder and then all your wife would have to do is stop in and pick it up. It is obvious that if any information is to be squeezed out of this vet that you are going to have to be the one to give the directions. This clinic sounds very shoddy when they can't give ANY information about what they are doing or why they are doing it.

You have been trying so hard to get the best treatment for your precious girl and getting no co-operation all round. I feel so bad for you :bighug: :bighug: :bighug:

At least your Snickers is back at home!
 
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