When Hypos are Happening

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The number of PZI kitties that have had hypo-like numbers lately is surprising. I think it has happened a half dozen times in the past month....

When this sort of thing happens, of course it is extremely stressful for the "bean on the scene", as I am sure they can attest?

Many of us have been here for a while, and have witnessed hypos in PZI, Health, Lantus, etc. One thing that I have found, and I learned this in LantusLand, is that it is much easier if only one advise-giver is posting in the thread. It helps to have lots of eyes on what is going on, but it can be overwhelming for the person with the hypo in front of them to try to respond to several people at once. Plus, there is always the chance that two or more of "us" might give confusing or conflicting advice.

One of my "duties" in my day job is to act as a First Responder in an emergency. That might include accidents, drownings, heart attacks, all sort of "fun stuff". We all get CPR/AED/First Aid training every year, but one other thing we have to learn is how to "take charge of the scene" in an emergency. The general rule that is followed is the first person on the scene, no matter how "senior" they are, is the "person in charge". To translate that to FDMB, it would be the first person who replies to the person who has posted the "Emergency" thread.

The "next" person who notices that something is going on would see who has already responded. The first thing you should do is PM the first responder, to let them know you are with them, and to ask if you can help. They may ask you to take over, which is fine, as long as only one person is posting. It would be okay if you post once, just to let the person know that you are "there" watching. Each person who arrives in the thread should do the same thing....let the first responder know you are there to help if needed.

One person should act as the "time keeper". If the advice is for the person to test every 15 minutes, someone should watch the clock to make sure they are testing on schedule. With all the stress of the hypo, plus posting, time moves at abnormal speed. Watching kitty is hard enough, especially when you also have to post replies. There might not be a clock visible either.

Another thing that is helpful...some of us, myself included, will sometimes sign on and choose to be "hidden". If you do that, keep in mind that you are not visible to the people on the forum. One good thing to do is sign out, un-hide yourself, and sign back in. That way people know you are there, and they can see your name at the bottom of the page when they are in the thread. It is reassuring for people in a crisis to be aware that there are a lot of people watching, even if they aren't saying something. It also helps the "first responder" to know who else might be around to ask for help or added advice.

So, this is what I believe, from a "spectator" point of view...

You don't want to confuse the bean.
You don't want to overwhelm the bean.
You want to let the bean know you are there watching.
You want to let the first responder know you are there to help if needed.
You want to keep "chatter" to a minimum.
You want to stick around until the crisis is over, unless you can't, and if you need to leave, you should let the first responder know that.
After the crisis is over, make sure to let everyone know that they did a great job!

Anyway, that's my thoughts. Feel free to add comments if you think this won't work, or if I left good stuff out.

Carl
 
We need to ask a moderator. Let me PM Venita maybe?

I know it is hard to "watch" and not jump in. Everyone of course wants to help. That's how we roll! I am hoping to get some feedback from anyone who has been in a "crisis" to get their thoughts on what it is like in their shoes when their kitty is the emergency of the night. Maybe I'm off base and it helps if more than one person is talking to them?

Carl
 
Spot on, Carl! As one (hopefully) on the tail end of tonight's stressful event, I looked for familiar names hoping to see y'all online! And, yes, the posting at least once was reassuring!!! Thanks for all y'all do!!!!!
 
I just PM'd Venita who is a mod, and asked how we can get it done. I'll hold off until we get lots of comments in case some parts of it need to be edited.

Carl
 
Carl,
Thank you so much for taking your time to post this. This is great information for newbies, oldies & everyone in between.

Jenn & Baxter
 
I just want people to understand something here.....

I am definitely NOT saying that just us "experienced" people should be doing all the "taking control of the scene" when hypos happen.
Tonight, it was actually Sue who posted first. I saw the crisis while at work, and chipped in once. Kim was also posting. I PM'd both Sue and Kim, and suggested that Kim take the lead, with me and Sue "watching". Tonight, it just worked out that the first people to post to Libby happened to be "oldbies".

However, if Teresa, or Lori, or Jenn, or anybody else, no matter how "experienced" they were happened to be the first on the scene when I got there, I would have PM'd that person and asked "can you do this? I'll be here if you need me, but go ahead and take the lead". My "goal" here is to give everyone the confidence to do this sort of thing on your own. I want everybody to feel like "hey, I can do this, no problem".
The very first time I had to pull an all-nighter on a hypo, it was a Lantus kitty and a new bean, and it was her first hypo. Myself and Marjorie who is a long-time L user were the two people "on the scene". I'd never done a "hypo" myself. Marje asked me if I thought I could handle it, and she had "off the board" stuff she absolutely had to take care of, and it was late at night, so I said "uh, sure, I can do this". She PM'd me advice and instructions (A lantus hypo is different than a PZI hypo, but easy to manage if you know how), and me and the new bean stayed up all night dealing with a long lasting hypo. At about 4am, I looked on the board, and me and Jen were the only two people on the board. A question came up that I didn't have an answer to, so I winged it. It was sort of intimidating, but who was I going to ask? Next day, I got some sleep, and Marje let me know a couple things I could have done differently, and told me I did great. It was a great learning experience for me.
A couple months later, I saw a 911 hypo post in Lantus, and nobody was around to help. So I just jumped right in. Eventually, someone else arrived, and I was happy to turn over the ship's wheel to them. But the first experience gave me the confidence to deal with an emergency.

Nothing would make me happier than to see Libby, who just dealt with this tonight, jump right in there and take control over the next hypo. Having been thru it, she knows what to do, and if she was the only person on the board when it happened to somebody else, I know she could deal with it just fine. A week ago, maybe not, but tomorrow night, no problem. And if I happened to sign on in the middle of it, I'd PM her, tell her she was doing great, and let her know I was here if she needed me.

Just so everyone understands where I'm coming from...
Carl
 
This is wonderful Carl! THANK YOU for taking time to do this.

The very few times KT and I have done the fast step, I so appreciated those comments assuring me I was doing OK. I didn't mine seeing differing points of view as long as the 'why' for each was explained.

One of the problems I do see is people being really new advising other really new people concerning dosage. Dosage can save but it's a two-edged sword, if not done from experience, it can also kill. I'm not sure how to handle those cases.

Altho' there are times I know I could comfortably give dosage advice as well as hypo advice, I have unexpected and immediate life threatening situations with my DH so can never say I can truly STAY with a person thru a problem....so unless I'm the only one there, I just don't start it. Would love opinions - given that situation, do you feel this that the correct approach?

Just my two and a half cents...inflation you know...

HUGS!
 
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