I don't know if the yellows are bounce numbers but the pinks probably are. *Thoughts again here* His AMPS might be higher because it's too much insulin. Using the lowered scale might help confirm that
. Hopefully, the new scale will help get two similar preshot numbers. There's also the case that some kitties run lower in evenings. Let's see how it goes. He is looking very nice 
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I don't know if the yellows are bounce numbers but the pinks probably are. *Thoughts again here* His AMPS might be higher because it's too much insulin. Using the lowered scale might help confirm that
I wouldn't change his shot time by 3 hours. I think I'd just skip... Or give the tiniest of drops. Like 0.25 or less
Thanks Janet! I thk if I skip, he'll run high later. I'll give 0.2u then. N test at +5.
. Curious to see his +5
Sorry if I disturbed ur sleep! Hope he doesn't go lime green.Glad Janet was around to answer you right away, I was hearing first alarm to wake up
. It was my alarm to wake up and take care of Maury. I try to get on the forum about 30 minutes after he's taken care of on weekends when it can be less traffic
+5 is 245! Anti-climax. Lol! Is that a bounce? I'll take again at +6 and see if he goes to blue.Glad Janet was around to answer you right away, I was hearing first alarm to wake up
So do I continue with giving him 0.2 at this reading in future? Is it safe? I thk scale need to up a bit for readings <200 based on last few days. I'm thinking
I see. So that's why he kept going low. So better to stick to the scale for few days and see if any improvement ? I think I'm too impatient
. His day readings are always good but evening seems erratic.
. I think Maury went through the opposite; day was erratic and evening was good 
Wow u took lots of readings per day. I feel so sorry looking at his ears so I try to do the minimum. Not to mention the test strip is not cheap.I understand
. Give me a couple hours to get back to you?
Looks good in the morning... A little higher in the evening.... You don't want it going more than 50% of your preshot or you'll bounce more. I'd wait.
No worries Yong! No rush really, take your time. He's safe with this scale, didn't go too low to worry about. I'm thinking the lower ranges need to be upped ? but I really don't know how to level out the bounces. He didn't seem as happy as the last few days that's what I observe.I think it does too but it may not be in the way your are thinking
U mean the 300+ preshot is good? Which reading shouldn't be more than 50%? I'm so sorry if I'm asking stupid questions. This insulin thing is not as straightforward as I thought.
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I see. So far, his nadir seems to be around 50% of amps but not pmps. Ok will try ur suggestion at the next pmps unless Janet has other view. Looks like have to experiment with dosage a bit more. Thanks muchYou don't want to push his nadir more than 50% of preshot number
Here's what I think for new doses. Will tag @JanetNJ as usual for her thoughts
130 - 150 --> 0.2 Preferrably if you can monitor
150 - 175 --> 0.4
175 - 200 --> 0.6
200 - 225 --> 0.8
225 - 250 --> 0.8
250 - 300 --> 1.0
300 - 350 --> 1.0
>350 --> 1.2
Reasoning: Hopefully the lower dose on the higher end numbers will give you two PS numbers closer together.
You can try it. You can always raise it up again if it isn't working out.I see. So far, his nadir seems to be around 50% of amps but not pmps. Ok will try ur suggestion at the next pmps unless Janet has other view. Looks like have to experiment with dosage a bit more. Thanks much
Alright will do. Let's see how it goes.
Try it through tomorrow at least
. Must always remember "it's a marathon, not a sprint".Was just day 3 on new scale so I'm voting for at least 1 more day like Janet
you can give regular cat food for kidney cats... but find one with lower phosphorous.... like wueruva. You can also do a food like fancy feast, but just use a phosphorous binder if the phosphorous is too high. Giving sub q's early can prevent the progression of the disease.
There's a great group on facebook called "Cats with Chronic Renal Failure".... super helpful people.
Regular food is ok? Cos d vet said must feed him k/d. I don't thk we Hv wueruva here. What % of phosphorus shld I look for? Not sure if the food content state d phosphorus amount.
Oh great! I shall look for them there. Double worry now! One diabetic cat and another with kidney problem plus stomatitis. And I have another one with stomatitis for 2 years already.
What's a phosphorus binder? I can do sub q at home? Can buy from pharmacy?
Yes you can do sub q's home. I did them for a year with my Zimmy.... You need a perscription though.
Here's info about the phosphorus binders. Tanya's site is just the best. She also had a book available on amazon with all this info.
The clinic forgot to pass me the blood test result. Will call them for a soft copy tmr. Just that the vet said it's higher than normal and should start on renal diet asap.
Thanks Yong. Do u have the link to the food chart? Right now, he's angry with us and only ate a tiny bit of burp after no food for 33 hrs.
Thanks!http://catinfo.org/docs/CatFoodProteinFatCarbPhosphorusChart.pdf
You can use option 2 in left corner, Extensive filters.
He is looking nice but I'm going to let Janet give you dosing scales
I Think he needs to be dosed higher in the evening. He's probably less active. That may help with the amps. Instead of going down at night he's going up. As long as you can monitor, I would raise that evening dose.
. It's 2.5 for creatinine. So I shld start sub q? they din do electrolyte test. Shld I ask for one? They have his blood sample. I do Hv a water fountain and bowls around the house. But we don't see him drinking often. And it is hot here lately about 32-34 deg.
So I stick to the scale for amps but increase by 0.2 for pmps? Tonight pmps he's in the blue.
I would. He seems to go up at night. Lets see what happens.
Excellent that he has so much access to water. If he's not drinking a LOT he's probably not dehydrated. I mean you could start sub q's.... maybe once a week or so. a lot of people don't start sub q's until the creatnine is in the 3's... but my vet and I decided since I was comfortable doing them at home that the earlier the better because in her experience it prevents the progression of the disease. it's not imperative at this point, but it could make him a little more comfortable. what is his phosphorous? have you joined the Cats With Chronic Renal Failure group on facebook? They are awesome there. very supportive and helpful like this group is.
They didn't do electrolyte test. I'll request for it tmr. We Hv done sub-q on another cat long time ago so I thk we can manage it. Thanks for the video. Haven't joined the Fb group cos I'm not an active Fb user. Can I just ask u instead since u do have experience with zimmy? I'll ask the vet about phosphorus binder tmr. Hopefully she knows. I told her about home testing for jebat and she was all for it! This is a different vet from the last one. Only setback is they are more expensive.
We never needed the binder for Zimmy.... His level never went above 4. We just gave him lower phosphorus food.
I see. So it all depends on the phosphorus level. Let's see the result tmr and I'll find appropriate food for him. Hopefully the one he's eating now (burp) is ok.
