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[Carol & Murphy (GA)]

Thanks Rachel.

we'll miss you Bobbie - don't forget us Now it's just me after Sharon and now you leaving I don't blame you
curious - what is the difference between Levemir and Lantus? I read somewhere that Levemir's pH was more compatible with feline something but it seems like most go with Lantus

 

[Bobbie And Bubba]

Thanks Lynn and right back to you. Maybe Rupert got into some pumpkin pie. I am going to start Bubba on Lantus hopefully tomorrow evening after I talk to the vet. No progress on ProZinc and after two day on 3 units he steadily went up. His lowest numbers last night were the Pre shoots and he was the highest during the onset. Doesn't make sense. It's scary to try a different insulin and wishing that @Sue and Oliver (GA) and @Rachel and @Merlin would move to the L and L with me........ and Carol. Let's start a new forum called " Formerly Prozinc" Lower numbers for everyone.

And of course @Robin&BB too!!

 

[Bobbie And Bubba]

we'll miss you Bobbie - don't forget us Now it's just me after Sharon and now you leaving I don't blame you
curious - what is the difference between Levemir and Lantus? I read somewhere that Levemir's pH was more compatible with feline something but it seems like most go with Lantus

From what Sharon told me, the Levemir doesn't sting in higher doses like Lantus does. Lantus is more acidic.

 

[Carol & Murphy (GA)]

And of course @Robin&BB too!!

I'll start threads for you and Sharon to come on!!!

 

[Carol & Murphy (GA)]

From what Sharon told me, the Levemir doesn't sting in higher doses like Lantus does. Lantus is more acidic.

so why do most go with Lantus?

 

[Bobbie And Bubba]

Murphy is eating exclusively YA now - his stools are soft and smelly - not sure if result of IBD or YA (he had this when I first switched him to YA- it resolved quickly) I guess this will be good test of YA and if it affects Blood Glucose or not - so far his sugars have been what I would have seen on wet food I plan to re-introduce the venison again in a day or two but slowly probably in mid day because he had most trouble when he ate it on an empty stomach (at pmps and amps) How about Colin, Sharon? I see you are going to increase again.

The soft serve stools could be because you are feeding exclusively YA, it should resolve soon.

 

[Carol & Murphy (GA)]

@Sharon14 I just got some slippery elm and am going to try giving it to Murphy tonight - I got powder and the capsules - I could give him one of the capsules (right dose) but I don't know if that is the best way to do it (absorbing water and all) I'm making the syrup and will try that (will try some myself as well)

 

[Carol & Murphy (GA)]

The soft serve stools could be because you are feeding exclusively YA, it should resolve soon.

I don't think it's that - I think he is nauseated - I gave him an appetite stimulant today and will ask vet for Rx for cerenia tomorrow - I think it's IBD flaring up again - but you are right about the loose stools - could be YA I am going to go through Bobbie and Bubba withdrawal on Prozinc

 

[Bobbie And Bubba]

so why do most go with Lantus?

The research says it has one of the highest remission rates of all the insulin given to felines. But oh, is it expensive! Apparently it jumped in price in the last year.

 

[Bobbie And Bubba]

I don't think it's that - I think he is nauseated - I gave him an appetite stimulant today and will ask vet for Rx for cerenia tomorrow - I think it's IBD flaring up again - but you are right about the loose stools - could be YA I am going to go through Bobbie and Bubba withdrawal on Prozinc

Nah, we will all still chat!

 

[Merlin]

I meant that I am wary of feeding just one product to a cat for a lifetime - especially a cat that is so young. I'm always wary that they will be missing some essential nutrient I am a fan of variety - so I think YA is fine but I would mix it up a bit with something else

Thanks Carol - that makes sense. One more question. Is this the right food for Evo low carb (it states that it is 8%)? http://www.chewy.com/cat/evo-turkey-chicken-cat-kitten/dp/32562

 

[Sharon14]

@Sharon14 I just got some slippery elm and am going to try giving it to Murphy tonight - I got powder and the capsules - I could give him one of the capsules (right dose) but I don't know if that is the best way to do it (absorbing water and all) I'm making the syrup and will try that (will try some myself as well)

Let me know how it works.

 

[Carol & Murphy (GA)]

Thanks Carol - that makes sense. One more question. Is this the right food for Evo low carb (it states that it is 8%)? http://www.chewy.com/cat/evo-turkey-chicken-cat-kitten/dp/32562

Yes Cindi that is it - I guess there has been some recent reformulation and it has some carbs now but supposedly something about fiber, yada, yada - and carbs now 8%. I am not sure - I tried Murphy on it early on and it didn't make a difference in his sugars - hence the YA but I may go back and try again now that he is farther into the insulin - there's another food called Wysong Epigen 90 that is also supposed to be good - I will look into that as well Murphy has been somewhat unstable the past few days, but I believe if I keep him on just YA, I'll have to lower his insulin dose and re-adjust the SS. but he's still in IBD mode so I'm taking things one day at a time

 

[Carol & Murphy (GA)]

Let me know how it works.

I put 1.5 teaspoons in a glass container - put 8 oz water in it - nuked it for 1.5 minutes - stirred - nuked for another 30 seconds - stirred and cooled it Gave Murphy 1 ml in pumpkin - I tasted it - it really has no taste Well see

 

[Robin&BB]

Hi, Carol (& all) - So sorry to see that Murphy's having an IBD flare --- sending many healing vibes your way!
And Bobbie - I have my fingers & toes crossed for you & Bubba, too - for success with the switch to Lantus.
I apologize for being MIA; there's so much going on here at present that I can barely keep on top of Bat-Bat.
Hopefully things will be less chaotic soon. I miss you all!

 

[Sue and Oliver (GA)]

And me too! I hope the depot insulin is just what Bubba needs. And be sure to come back by.

 

[Bobbie And Bubba]

Hi, Carol (& all) - So sorry to see that Murphy's having an IBD flare --- sending many healing vibes your way!
And Bobbie - I have my fingers & toes crossed for you & Bubba, too - for success with the switch to Lantus.
I apologize for being MIA; there's so much going on here at present that I can barely keep on top of Bat-Bat.
Hopefully things will be less chaotic soon. I miss you all!

Thanks Robin and Sue. I will be talking to the vet tomorrow. Maybe by tomorrow night I can start. I am nervous but, got to try this. @Robin&BB , hope things calm down for you @Carol & Murphy, once again we all hang at our house.

 

[Sue and Oliver (GA)]

One thing I would definitely do, Bobbie, is to print off the protocols and lots of the other info on the stickies, so you can refer to them whenever you need to. It really is a completely different mind set and takes a different kind of thinking.

 

[Bobbie And Bubba]

One thing I would definitely do, Bobbie, is to print off the protocols and lots of the other info on the stickies, so you can refer to them whenever you need to. It really is a completely different mind set and takes a different kind of thinking.

I did gather them on a doc and need to print. Not sure which I will follow, leaning towards SLGS protocol. Any advice?

 

[Sue and Oliver (GA)]

You can always change to the other, no matter which you choose. I would do SLGS, but you know me, I'm a fraidy cat.

 

[Sharon14]

You can start with SLGS until you get a feel for Lantus then switch to TR

 

[Lynn & Rupert]

I am also doing the SLGS for now, figure it would give me time to understand everything and see how Rupert does. I hope to switch to TR in the future. Which ever method you choose, Bobbie, wishing you the best of luck!

 

[Carol & Murphy (GA)]

Me too - will keep close watch and fingers crossed - who knows- I may be there at some point although the 12 hour dosing with no wiggle room just wouldn't work for me I like the flexibility of prozinc (for now)

 

[Bobbie And Bubba]

Me too - will keep close watch and fingers crossed - who knows- I may be there at some point although the 12 hour dosing with no wiggle room just wouldn't work for me I like the flexibility of prozinc (for now)

I know the lack of flexibility scares me but one of the stickies I read said that peeps do modify for when life gets in the way.