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The vet who is treating my gut for DM says to throw away ALL canned food, it's no good for cats.

He says he will get better on Purina DM if anything.

He says no cat should eat canned.

I told him i disagreed and how I saw my former DM cat's numbers drop significantly on wet. But he just got frustrated with me and his partner apparently did to like I was trying to tell them what to do.

He is a good Doc who is very smart and well respected. However, his comments are disturbing.

My view is this..Dry food is not natural.period and they do nasty things to it to make cats eat it. My problem is I can't feed all twenty cats canned. I cannot afford it and logistically difficult. I feed as much canned as I can.

I called and told a couple of companies Natura for one that they should put labels on certain bags that announces "High Glycemic" pet food. They got mad too!
 
Ask him when the last time he saw a cat eat a mouse made out of corn and baked to a crispy crunch...lol.

Seriously I just tend to smile and nod when a vet tells me stuff like that and then go home and feed what I want. Fortunately the vet I have now is thrilled to death that my gang is on all canned and always comments that I have some of the most beautiful cats he sees. Remember the vet works for you not the other way around. Or as my vet told me once. "I can suggest a course of treatment, but I can't make you give the meds, or feed what I say, because I will never know your animals as well as you do. I see them for maybe 10 minutes every once in awhile, you live with them 24/7"

If you like your vet for the routine stuff keep him for that and just manage your guys diabetes like a human diabetic at home.

Mel, Maxwell, Musette & The Fur Gang
 
George&Bert said:
The vet who is treating my gut for DM says to throw away ALL canned food, it's no good for cats.

He says he will get better on Purina DM if anything.

He says no cat should eat canned.

I told him i disagreed and how I saw my former DM cat's numbers drop significantly on wet. But he just got frustrated with me and his partner apparently did to like I was trying to tell them what to do.

He is a good Doc who is very smart and well respected. However, his comments are disturbing.

My view is this..Dry food is not natural.period and they do nasty things to it to make cats eat it. My problem is I can't feed all twenty cats canned. I cannot afford it and logistically difficult. I feed as much canned as I can.

I called and told a couple of companies Natura for one that they should put labels on certain bags that announces "High Glycemic" pet food. They got mad too!
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Throw away that vet, simple as that.
 
Now that we have the 'vet' issue sorted out, I am sure that feeding all your cats wet food may not be possible, BUT for your diabetic cat's health, you need to find a way to feed that cat low carb wet food.

If you feed dry to the diabetic, you will need to give a higher dose of insulin and it's not likely that your diabetic cat will ever be OTJ.

It may not be easy but when it comes to health, it's needed.

I think your best best is to go to set meals; put down dry food for the others and wet for the diabetic, then you will have to remove the bowls of dry food after they have eaten, maybe 30min?
I used to cover the dry food with a big overturned bowl when I as out. If my civvie wanted to eat, there was wet low card food available.
 
If you can use the lowest carb dry (per Cat Info, dry is not good for any cat!), it will be less problematic although not ideal. Wellness Core and Evo Cat and Kitten were the 2 dry I recall were lowest in carbs in the US.

Many vets are not up to date on contemporary feline diabetes care. We have a number of veterinary articles which, if you think he'd read them, you may share with him, such as this one:
Lantus/Levemir testing & dosing protocol Roomp & Rand
 
This Vet is usually one of the best around. I don't know why he is hooked on the dry thing. He has cured my cats when others have failed. on a Saturday evening and on a holiday eve at 11:00 at night and when no one is around and you need a Vet..he will leave his comfortable home and open the office to help you. Who does that.

I have convinced him to research Levemir and he agreed and is treating his cat with it to see hoe he likes it before dosing to patients..who does that? This Doc does. I can't toss him, i am going to keep working him as I have for the last two years.

When it is financially or logistically impossible to feed all canned (twenty in my crew)and one has DM a bean must be creative as possible.

I tried Core and everyone turns up their collective noses..it sits there gathering cobwebs. Not even the outside guys, racoons or possums have eaten it.

So, I went back to good ol' EVO , but with a twist. I feed the dry EVO turk/chick @ 6% carbs and dry EVO Herring @ 9% carbs.
i fill in as much Wellness Chicken or Turkey canned @ 4% and EVO 95% chicken canned @ 0 %...both mixed 60/40 with water.
I throw in some FF chicken as an addition. I make sure my DM guy gets as much as he can eat and he gobbles it up.

He thinks he is sooo special and he is as all of them are. I hope this diet change will help my huge overweight cat slim down as well.
 
Unless he's reading the right articles or coming here, he's not going to like how Levemir works because he's not going to understand how it works. Both Levemir and Lantus work differently than any "veterinary" insulin, especially different than Caninsulin or Vetsulin or NPH.

If he ends up prescribing Levemir for you, I would like to know. Did you provide him with any articles we have links to? Don't know what he's going to come up with by researching on his own. On VIN perhaps, but it helps to have the right articles. Otherwise how in the world is he going to conclude Levemir is a good choice for cats? Not sure how I feel about a vet "experimenting" on his own cat....but some of us here kind of do that too. I would like to be reassured he has correct info about how it works and doesn't make assumptions, because he seems to making assumptions about what food is best for cats. Levemir does not need a vet spouting off that it's "No good for cats," like he's doing about the food.

Sorry to hijack this thread. The expanding use of Levemir is of great interest to me, so I had to jump in. To make it relevant, your vet must not be researching the food issue in the right places either, because he would certainly come across Dr. Lisa, Dr. Becker & Dr. Hodgkins who all preach NO DRY FOOD in a logical and informative way.
 
Don't worry about jumping in...he is right and everyone else is crazy. He is going by his success with Purina DM which he says has gotten cats off insulin.

At least he is opening up a bit.

My vet from a different office has been a complete turn around over the past two years.

I find that all three of these senior vets have been wrong from time to time. I don
t have full trust of them or any vet I have seen in my general area.
 
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