Unstabilized cat = incontinence ??

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ajc79

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Hi all,

It's been a few weeks since my last post. Our cat Eric has been recently diagnosed and now on Caninsulin. He started on 1 unit twice a day, and is now increased to 1.25 twice a day. I don't believe this is enough at the moment, as his water intake is just as high as ever (around half a litre a day), although he does seem to be putting back on some of the weight he's lost.

Recently, we've noticed that his bed has water marks on it in the morning. To start with we just thought that he must have walked into his water bowl during the night, so we washed his bed and didn't worry about it. However, the stains keep appearing in the morning. Today I splashed some water next to the stain, to see if it left the same marks. It didn't, the water dried but the other stain is still there. Which would leave me to assume that it's urine, not water. I also gave it a sniff (I get all the best jobs in this house :sad: ) and it smells vaguely like cat pee.

So I guess my question is, is this incontinence likely to be caused by his diabetes, and the large amount of water he's drinking? If so, is it likely to be permanent? nailbite_smile

We've ordered a glucose meter, which should be here any day, but we don't have any current glucose levels for him I can give you.

I will of course mention this all to the vet, when he goes back (AGAIN!) next week.

Thanks,

Adam
 
Pauline had a few incidents of what I called "bed wetting". She has CRF, not diabetes,
but lots of water drinking and peeing. This only occurred in her sleeping areas.

After a couple of months of Fish Oil added to her food (helps with the CRF), drinking and
peeing down about 1/3 and no more bed wetting.

My theory is because of all the water drinking, during sound sleep the cat just does not
wake up in time, like a small child who still wets the bed.

This is just a theory, I'm not a vet nor vet-tech.

Better regulation of the diabetes might help....I would give it more time and
work on regulating the diabetes.

Half a liter per day drinking is a HUGE amount of water..no wonder his bladder is full.
 
Atlas had several 'accidents' during his regulation trials.

The bed he wet was a twin size bed and at the time he was peeing like a race horse!!!!

One other time by the front door, I think when his numbers are real high he gets disoriented.

Now that his numbers are bit more stable the 'accidents' have stopped.
 
Hi Adam - how far from his bed is the kitty box? Shadow had trouble like this except she went on the floor right next to the kitty box. repeatedly. A big part of it was the polyuria that goes with FD but then one day we realized her back legs were weak and we cut the side of the kitty box down so it was easier for her to get into and the problem completely went away. I also moved it closer to her so she doesn't have to waddle all the way down the hall with her weak back legs. Just suggestions for you to try, maybe something will click with Eric. Shadow's BG's are much more controlled now and she doesn't have the polyuria that she once had.
 
Many cats that are not regulated can have accidents because they are drinking and peeing so much..sometimes the litterbox is more full and they dont want to use it, and sometimes they might have a Urinary tract infection. Diabetic urine is full of sugar which helps colonize bacteria. Many newly diagnosed cats have a UTI..so you may want to have your vet run a urinalysis, with a culture and sensitivity to see if there is an infection, and what ABs will help, if there is one.
 
OK, I thought of one more thing - I lurk on other kitty boards and have seen L-lysine recommended for inappropriate urination, it is apparently recommended for lots of things as it is an immune-booster. Search this site for sources, be watchful about the additives, cats cannot tolerate Xylitol, toxic to their livers
 
Kim 'n Shadow said:
Hi Adam - how far from his bed is the kitty box?..

Hi Kim,

It is a bit of a distant, down two flights of stairs in fact... maybe you're right. It's just odd that he would do it in his bed and then sleep on it if that was the case... :?

Adam
 
Lisa and Merlyn (GA) said:
Many cats that are not regulated can have accidents because they are drinking and peeing so much..sometimes the litterbox is more full and they dont want to use it, and sometimes they might have a Urinary tract infection. Diabetic urine is full of sugar which helps colonize bacteria. Many newly diagnosed cats have a UTI..so you may want to have your vet run a urinalysis, with a culture and sensitivity to see if there is an infection, and what ABs will help, if there is one.

Thanks Lisa, i'll ask the vet about UTIs.
 
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