Uncooperative Kitties

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Pumaroo

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Hi There,
Firstly, let me thank those who have posted such informative comments on this board. It has been very helpful to this very stressed out mom. I'll try and give you a brief summary of my girl Scarlett and her issues.
She was just 4 weeks old when my ex found her on the 5 Freeway in Los Angeles. Seriously. The first 10 yrs were healthy, extremely happy years of an extremely happy, friendly sweetie. One day I came home from work to find her completely paralyzed from the waist down. She had been jumping on everything just that morning. Her eyes were clear and she showed no other symptoms. My then vet told me he thought it was neurological. I simply didn't and still don't have money for an MRI. He put her on prednisone and she regained use of her legs and tail albeit wobbly. He even said it was the best he'd seen of a recovery from complete paralysis.
She soon after went through bought a of kidney stones and UTI's. About a year ago she started acting ravenous. She was always a bit piggy, and became overweight. I finally was able to take her to a new vet and she told me she had diabetes. Her numbers were in the high 400's. Within a month we had her numbers in the low 100's with 3.5 Prozinc 2 x's a day. I noticed she started acting lethargic about 2 weeks ago, so I brought her to a closer vet and she was tested at 60 without having her shot the night before or in the morning. I need to now add that she becomes EXTREMELY aggressive and stressed out going to the vet since her paralysis. She has notes on her chart to be extremely careful. The recent vet trip was so traumatic I didn't think I'd ever bring her back to the vet. I called my regular vet and told her the issues. She told me she has no problem with me taking a break from injections. It's been about 10 days and she is starting to urinate a more and drink more water. Her urine strips come back 1/4 on the meter.
Now, of course, all of you are thinking I need to home test. Well I bought the meter and have tried several times. She almost took my face off! A vet tech needs to hold her down and the other has to get her blood very quickly. Even the vet told me she's understanding that I can't do it alone. The second vet wouldn't even come near her! She was once a sweetheart that wouldn't hit a fly. Now she gets so stressed going to the vet that she attacks me when I try to get her in the carrier. I've been coming to a place where I don't know what to do. She has a lot of life left, but she's so uncooperative I feel incredibly torn. She will fight with everything in her to live and I don't know at what point her quality of life is to compromised. It looks like my attempt at keeping this brief is gone. Sorry! She is just such a difficult case. I've had many animals with issues, cancer, thyroid, injuries... I'm beyond stressed and confused. Any advice would be more appreciated than you know. In summary, she's also been taking UroMaxx for UTI, gabapentin for possible pain and cosequin. She's also been struggling to defecate recently. Still eating, drinking fine. Her walking is also slower and more wobbly. Coat is pretty unkempt even though she tries to reach areas for cleaning regularly. Once on high quality dry food, she has been on Fancy Feast Classics and Friskies Pates only since diagnosis.
 
Hi and welcome. I'm new here and can't offer much advice, but wanted you to know that I'm so sorry you and Scarlett are going through so much difficulty. I've never tried it, but was reading a post from another member about a 'Thunder Shirt'. It's supposed to have a calming effect. Some have found that Feliway and other similar pheromone products help. Maybe try desensitization techniques too. Hold her, pet her, give her a treat then let her go. Is her wobbly walk from her former paralysis, or diabetic neuropathy? Zobaline can help the latter. Sorry I can't be of more help, but know that you're now among friends.
 
Thank you so much for your reply. I've tried every trick I can think of to coax her into remaining calm. Bribing with no carb treats, petting her and letting her go and rubbing her ears. She's a smarty pants and my vet agrees. The vets office tried the spray, but it did no good. She actually got her claws into a vet tech after the spray. I felt horrible for both of them. The minute I touch her ears she turns around and scratches and bites me. I'll look into the shirt, but getting her in it would be a feat.
My regular vet and I are pretty sure the problems with walking are from the paralysis. She never regained full mobility after it.
It's been about 2 weeks since that traumatic visit with that other vet, where I won't return. My regular vet is super sweet and the vet techs seem to get the job done behind closed doors, so I'm fearful of how forceful they might have to be. I just don't know at what point I should just leave her be and let her tell me when it's time. It's so up and down. I'm feeling a little better about bringing her in just for a single glucose reading soon. I put her in a towel and she still manages to get me good. It's so stressful when a previously sweet kitty acts like a feral wild child fighting for her life! It's super helpful just getting feedback from anyone going through this stressful endeavor. Thank you so much!
 
If you want to try the pheromones again, there are some that you plug in-they release the pheromones continuously. Also there is a pheromone infused collar. I've used that on a shy kitty once and it helped her. It sounds like Scarlett was already in fight mode when the tech tried the spray so chances were good that it wouldn't work. Also, I talked to a friend of mine who has used the thunder shirt on her dog and was amazed at how well it worked. It may be worth a look. Also have you tried testing in her paw pad? Some say it's easier than the ear. I think there's a video on you tube showing how. I was thinking if trying it myself since I'm testing so often. Please keep us posted
 
@Pumaroo, welcome to the site. You may want to post on your situation on the main health board. That one gets some more traffic than this board.

I wish I had some more advice for you. There are a lot of experienced people here who will have more advice than I do. Best of luck.
 
I have a wild kitty, too! Watching the videos of how to do the BG test cracked me up when I started this process a few weeks ago. My cat would NEVER lay down and just let me poke his ear. He still won't. It's a much more involved process at our house in order to accommodate his anxiety. I think we should make our own video to show that you can still do it, even with a feral kitty. It just isn't going to be as easy.

It's taken a few weeks to be able to get regular tests done. At the beginning I was able to get him to sit still and eat a treat while I scratched his head and that was as close as I could get to testing. Then I could touch his ears. Then I could prick, but he would run away or bite (hard!) before I could get any blood. Then he would stay, but I still couldn't get any blood. Now we are finally in a place where I can do his test quickly and get a good reading. It's been a bit of a journey, with LOTS of treats, and LOTS of attempts each day just to get him used to letting me touch his ears, let alone stick him. I would just get him used to the routine a few times/day without even trying to stick him, and then slowly build up as his anxiety goes down.

There are still days (last night for example) where he just freaks out when I try to do the test and I have to just let him go and try again in ten minutes. If I fight him on it we both end up unhappy, and I usually end up bleeding more than he does. Twice now though he's hopped up on the table where we do the testing and pushed the lancet toward me. It wasn't even a testing time -- he just wanted a treat and has figured out the connection between the two.

Good luck!
 
Hi and Welcome to the Forum. How about a little cat nip prior to the testing. I know that it makes Bubba really laid back, the equivalent to marijuana on humans.
 
Lets go with the Secondary Monitoring Tools in my signature link while you continue working on blood testing. It will give you 'softer' data from which to make some decisions. The most important ones are amount of water drunk, amount and frequency of urination, testing urine for ketones and glucose.
Drinking like a fish and flooding the litter box indicate lack of control (or could be UTI or renal disease, but we start with the assumption it is diabetes until proven otherwise).
Urine ketones suggests the insulin dose is too low and may need to be slightly increased.
Urine glucose suggests that since the previous void, the glucose level in the blood was high enough to be excreted through the renal system. This will happen even on insulin, as the insulin level rises and falls.
 
Thank you so much for the responses! I've had a really nasty bug, so sorry for not replying sooner.
I'm starting to see signs that she needs to go back on insulin. She's pretty ravenous again, drinking more and her urine strips are coming back darker. I'm going to take all your suggestions and give them a try. The catnip and treats will be the course for now. She freaks out when I put a towel around her because she knows she's going in her carrier. It's the only way to get her in it without losing my arm! So, I don't think a shirt our blanket would be helpful. She is very food motivated, so I'm going to work on her associating the prick with treats. Good to know I'm not the only one with a fighter! She does have kidney issues, so I know testing her blood is the only way to watch her levels. Ugh.
I'll keep you all posted and welcome any and all suggestions for drawing blood from a very uncooperative kitty.
 
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