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Iorwen & Tray

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I'm very worried about Tray, he's still not eating and seems quite nauseous. He wants to eat, but when he goes to the food bowl he smells it and starts making little gagging reflexes. He was very quiet and wanted to be alone all night. I heard him retching in the corner early this morning but only found clear fluid on the floor, like saliva. My vet is away until next week and I have a huge meeting this morning. But my Dad is with him and I will call the clinic as soon as they open to see if another vet will see him.

Please send healing vines for my beautiful boy.
 
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Gordo does that sometimes. Hairballs?

I hope that whatever it is goes away and Tray feels better soon.
 
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It is awful when out babies don't feel well and we don't know what's wrong, huh? Hopefully, this will pass quickly. Good luck.

Try to have a good day!!! :-D
 
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Please get him in to the vet. Not eating is an issue you don't want to muck around with.

I don't think I recall Tray having problems with pancreatitis -- it often will show up as nausea. (The test is a spec fPLI. The blood has to be sent out.) Any litter box issues?
 
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I would get him to a vet also. He's telling you something is wrong. Sending you and Tray healing vines and big hugs.
 
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Sienne and Gabby said:
Please get him in to the vet. Not eating is an issue you don't want to muck around with.

I don't think I recall Tray having problems with pancreatitis -- it often will show up as nausea. (The test is a spec fPLI. The blood has to be sent out.) Any litter box issues?

No he's never had issues with pancreatitis although that is the first thing that came to mind. No litter box issues, he did both yesterday, nothing so far though. I spoke to the vet tech and he said to watch him and if he can hold out my vet is actually in this afternoon. I would much rather see him as the others I don't have much confidence in but my Dad will take him in to see them if he seems worse.
 
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Unless something changes, take him to see the vet you have confidence in. You might call back and ask if it would be OK to give him half of a Pepsid AC if you have any at home. It may help with the nausea. They may not want you to do anything without Tray seeing the vet, though.

Also, can your dad monitor Tray's BG? If you shot and Tray's not eating, you don't want his numbers to drop too fast.
 
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Sienne and Gabby said:
Unless something changes, take him to see the vet you have confidence in. You might call back and ask if it would be OK to give him half of a Pepsid AC if you have any at home. It may help with the nausea. They may not want you to do anything without Tray seeing the vet, though.

Also, can your dad monitor Tray's BG? If you shot and Tray's not eating, you don't want his numbers to drop too fast.

thanks for the advice Sienne, my Dad doesn't test as Tray scratches him everytime he tries. I only gave him a small amount of insulin since his BG was so high. My Dad said Tray came out of hiding and meowed his hello and managed to eat a few Temptations but still couldn't stomach the food.
I'll call about the Pepsid
 
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Sending Healing Vines & good health to our friend TRAY!!! Poor Boy, hope you see the vet & are feeling better real soon--Prayers for good health!
 
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Hope Tray feels better soon! I would think that the fact he'll eat Temptations is a good sign...not great for BG, but a good sign.
 
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Hi guys, I'm sorry to hear that tray isn't feeling well .. I hope that he does ok till you can get him into your regular vet .. I know it's hard when our babies aren't feeling good ..
 
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Oh, dear.. so sorry to hear that Tray is not feeling well. It is good that you are going to be able to see his regular vet this afternoon. Hoping and praying that it is just a little upset tummy and that he will be eating better today.
 
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I'm sorry that Tray isn't feeling well, I hope it's just a hairball. It's good that he is with your Dad, I'm sure you would be even more worried if you had to leave him home while you went to work! Sending healing vines for Tray....hoping the vet will have answers for you.
 
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(((Iorwen))) I'm sending healing vines and prayers for Tray. I hope you can get him into your vet and find something to help him.
 
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Iorwen, I hope that you were able to get Tray to his vet and that he was able to find out what is bothering Tray. Thinking of you, sending healing vines, and hoping to hear an update this evening.
Many hugs and positive thoughts,
Ella & Rusty
 
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Just stopping by to see how you guys were doing.
We are thinking of you and hope Tray is feeling better.
((hugs))
 
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Same here, thinking about Tray, hoping you can get this figured out. Sending healing vines your way.
 
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Thank you one and all for your prayers and concern,sorry I didn't update last night. Tray is running a fever but we're not sure why. The vet couldn't feel any blockages, no constipation and his teeth looked good. They couldn't get a urine sample so I collected one myself this morning and my Dad will be dropping it off when they open in half an hour. I am now at work with a bunch of meetings coming up. How I will concentrate I don't know. But my Dad is just around the corner from the vet so Tray is with him.

The vet is also sending out a sample to be tested for pancreatitis since they can't test for that at their labs. She sent me home with an appetite stimulant and some anti nauseau medication. Tray managed to eat a bit yesterday but had a bad night, he continued to vomit white foam for most of the night. My vet believes this is from his nauseau and this morning he refused to eat anything but a few Temtations. He seems really uncomfortable and his BG is still high, 317 this morning. My vet gave the go ahead to give him some insulin though since he is so high and to keep feeding him the treats if that is all he'll eat just to be sure he doesn't drop too low.

I'm so scared for him. I lost our beloved family dog 5 months ago and couldn't bare anything to happen to my most precious Tray so please continue to think good thoughts and prayers for my boy.
 
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Thoughts and Prayers of Tray getting better very soon! Please keep up posted!!
 
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Can you list the dosing and the names of the medication? Vets often prescribe Reglan/metoclopromide which will not help a cat with nausea unless stomach motility is the issue which doesn't sound like it is with Tray. And they often start cats on way way too high a dose of appetite stimulants.

Can you syringe feed Tray? Its really easy to do once you have the nausea under control. You dont want him getting liver issues. I can walk you through how to do this.

No antibiotics for fever?
 
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(((Iorwen)))

I will be thinking of you and Tray. Hopefully the vet will have some answers for you soon.
Just wondering.....do you test for ketones?
 
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Karrie and Maverick said:
Can you list the dosing and the names of the medication? Vets often prescribe Reglan/metoclopromide which will not help a cat with nausea unless stomach motility is the issue which doesn't sound like it is with Tray. And they often start cats on way way too high a dose of appetite stimulants.

Can you syringe feed Tray? Its really easy to do once you have the nausea under control. You dont want him getting liver issues. I can walk you through how to do this.

No antibiotics for fever?

The vet perscribed famotidine for the nauseau 1 mil twice a day and I can't recall off the top of my head what she perscribed for the appetite stimulant, it was .5 mil twice a day and it began with a c. She didn't want to perscribe antibiotics until she had a urine sample to see if it might be a UTI. She gave him fluids for the dehydration.

Could you please talk me through the syringe feeding? She said it might have to be done if he wouldn't begin eating on his own.

I do test for ketones and thankfully he's negative. Tested yesterday and again this morning.
 
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Are you sure you have the dose on the famotidine (Pepsid) correct? A tablet is 10 mg. The usual dose is 1/4 of a tablet (0.25mg) twice a day with a max of 0.5mg twice a day.

You may want to talk to your vet about an anti-emetic -- a medication that will stop the vomiting.
 
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Sienne and Gabby said:
Are you sure you have the dose on the famotidine (Pepsid) correct? A tablet is 10 mg. The usual dose is 1/4 of a tablet (0.25mg) twice a day with a max of 0.5mg twice a day.

You may want to talk to your vet about an anti-emetic -- a medication that will stop the vomiting.

Sorry, they're both mg 1mg and .5 mg. It was a long night and I'm not quite functioning properly. Forgive my incoherant writings.

I was wondering about that and will most definately bring it up when she calls this morning. Thanks Sienne
 
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Iorwen, I am so sorry to hear about Tray. Positive thoughts and prayers for you and Tray and the Vet to help Tray thru all this today. Keep us posted, and Tray's in good hands with your Dad monitoring. I know you'll still worry. Hang in there, easier said than done. Hugs.
 
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Sending healing vines for Tray...and a blizzard of snowflakes too....hope you feel better boy...
(((Iorwen & Tray)))
 
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Iorwin the pepcid with help with stomach acid but not nausea and Tray is very nauseated. So giving him an appetite stimulant would be the same as giving you one with an all out flu. You need to get ondansetron or dolasetron or cerenia. Cerenia is used when there is vomiting. Often Cerenia is used in conjuction with ondansetron. Ondansetron is expensive in Canada but worth its weight in gold. I got it for $9 a pill at walmart but each 4mg pill was 4 doses.

Cypro - start at 1/8th of a pill or 1/4 at most not 1/2. It has a lot of side effects. And don't give this to Tray at all unless his nausea is adressed. It isn't now. Syringe feed him but don't use an appetite stimulant. You have to get an antiemetic today.

Here is a technical article written by a renouned vet that we share with people on the Feline Assisted Feeding group. It says that metoclopromide (which your vet may try to push you to use) is ineffective in cats unless its a stomach emptying issue. This would be vomiting up undigested food hours after feeding. Maverick had this after his PEG tube was placed. I could tell by the type of tube that he had that his stomach wasn't emptying.

Here is the article. Please print and bring with you or email it to them: http://veterinarycalendar.dvm360.com/avhc/content/printContentPopup.jsp?id=676860

Many of us speak from experience dealing with liver failure due to not eating, or helping a cat through periods of inappetance due to CRF, pancreatitis, cancer etc. We are here to walk you through assisted feeding, medication etc. You have a great support group here.

Hugs.
 
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Sending you good thoughts and healing vines for Tray! Hope he gets to feeling better and eating! ((((hugs))))
 
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Iorwen, I'm so sorry to hear that Tray is not any better. I was worried last night when we didn't get an update. I know how nervous you must be and then have to deal with all the work stuff. Glad Dad is around the corner and can watch Tray. I hope they can get to the bottom of things today. Everyone is giving you great advice about the medication. Sending you prayers!
 
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My vet called to let me know that all his bloodwork came back normal and he tested negative for pancreatitis (PLI test was done).

She hasn't done the urine test yet but she told me to come back after work and she is going to give him some more fluids, a cerina injection to help with the vomiting and she thinks we'll go ahead and put him on antibiotics to be safe. And she said to go ahead and beging syringe feeding. She's stumped though and so am I.

Thank you all for your help, this is new to me, I've never had to deal with a cat who wouldn't eat like this.
 
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Hi Iorwen - so so very sorry to rad that Tray is still not feeling well. Paws crossed that he will feel better today. We were all a little worried last night. It is so very nice that your dad is nearby to help. It is hard when one has to work and our furkids are not feeling well. I hope the lab work will give you an answer. Good luck, and many healing vines for Tray.
 
my heart just sang when i saw karrie is able to offer experience and support to help you and tray through this. what good news. nothing is better than someone who has been there and knows first hand how to deal with the issues.

i hope he's feeling perkier and wanting to eat really soon.
 
awww .. I'm sorry tray is having such a rough go right now .. I know he is in good hands with you and the vet, so I'll just keep him in my thoughts and prayers for a speedy recovery ..
 
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