Tip not eating, diarrhea, vomiting, 'Hi' reading-Resolved

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Hello, I would've immedietly called the vet, but the vet is currently closed, and I don't know what to do, shaking now, but I've tested Tip about 5 times, each reading being 'Hi', I gave her food, but she wants none of it. She then vomited, it was very liquidy. So, I got out a syringe to syringe feed her, but she went off in to hiding, I found her, but there was a huge puddle of diarrhea, I can only asume from her. I'm unsure what to do, should I syringe feed her? Rush her to the, albeit expensive, emergency vet? Should I go ahead and give her her insulin and watch? Rush to the store to pick up some ketone sticks only to have her not agree to let me test her?

All help appreciated, thanks.

EDIT: I should also note that despite all of above, she is acting about how she normally would be right about this time. It's close to her usual naptime.

EDIT2: Alright, all seems to be resolved, so I took down the 911 as it is no longer an emergency, she's even back to eating real, non-puree'd food. :)
 
Re: Tip not eating, diarrhea, vomiting, 'Hi' reading

Alright, she just drank a little, so she isn't showing any symptoms of being high, how long would it take for possible ketones to be a problem? I'm going to go ahead and try to syring feed her a litle and I'll test again and post the number, if any.

EDIT: Still reading as Hi. Going to try to syringe feed her now....
 
Re: Tip not eating, diarrhea, vomiting, 'Hi' reading

I would watch her like a hawk (attach the litter box to your foot if you have to) and try to get a ketone test,
and keep syringe feeding her, a little at a time, with breaks in between.

That's all I know. I don't know you're insulin, so can't advise with that.

I hope it's just a bad bit of food or a 24 hour bug, and she feels better and eats better real soon, like tomorrow morning.
 
Re: Tip not eating, diarrhea, vomiting, 'Hi' reading

I use Humlin N for my diabetic dog, but I have no experience with its usage in cats. BUT, I would try to get a ketone test.
 
Re: Tip not eating, diarrhea, vomiting, 'Hi' reading

Alright, I've yet to clean it from the major diarrhea incident, so I'll do that now, syringe feed her a little, and then run off to get the strips. She just drank quite a bit of water, but she hasn't drank much from what I know of today. I hope she feels better real soon too. Right now would be awesome, but I know that's unrealistic. I'll also have to deal with this tomorrow on my own too if it continues as the vet is closed on Sunday's as well.\

Also, does anyone know if krogers carries ketone sticks? Just an off question, they're much closer.

Also, she's starte meowing, a bit like in pain, should I just give in and take her to the emergency vet? Or continue with this plan?

EDIT: Went in and gave her lots of love and that calmed her down, maybe just scared because I'm panicking a bit?
 
Re: Tip not eating, diarrhea, vomiting, 'Hi' reading

If the Kroger's has a pharmacy, it's likely they would have the strips, but can you call to check and save yourself the stop if they don't sell them?

Carl
 
Re: Tip not eating, diarrhea, vomiting, 'Hi' reading

My grandpa was kind enough to go and get them for me at walmart, also, I syringe fed her a little, but I called my mom for any advice on a possibly cheaper emergency vet and suggested I puree'd up some chicken for her, also suggested putting rice in there, but had to tell her that that'd probably drive Tip's bG up higher, so we went with water. Waiting to see if she takes to that and I'l probably throw out this can of food just in case it was accidentally left out too long one day and might be causing all this. Tip is also acting a bit less sluggish than she was, but, yet again, that's normal at this time. I am so glad my cats have a stict nap-play schedule.

Should I continue to test her bG? Or should I give her poor ears a little rest? And if I should continue to test, what intervals? Still skip the shot? Or give it to her because of how high she is?
 
Re: Tip not eating, diarrhea, vomiting, 'Hi' reading

Little update, found out Tip might've gotten in to some mint chocolate candy the size of M&M's, my grandpa says he only saw one drop. What might be the likelyhood that more might've dropped, and would just 1 or 2 be dangerous?
 
Re: Tip not eating, diarrhea, vomiting, 'Hi' reading

Mullet consumed maybe 3 or 4 "m and m" sized bits I think. He was fine 24 hours later.

Carl
 
Re: Tip not eating, diarrhea, vomiting, 'Hi' reading

So, if the chocolate is the case, this would definitely raise her bG, yes? Also, Tip seems to have the exact same symptom of the liqui-po, exept she also vomited, very liquidy and dark, if that helps any, but since that once, she hasn't since. Will Tip be fine? Should I still watch her and track her down to get the ketone test in? And what about the shot? @_@ I really want to bring that down....

EDIT: Should mention it was dark chocolate, likely only 1 piece, possibly 2. Very well could be that she's had none though.
 
Re: Tip not eating, diarrhea, vomiting, 'Hi' reading

Yes, chocolate would boost her BG short term.
The "color" you describe with the vomit could indicate that she ate some also.
If you suspect chocolate was the culprit, I would watch closely to see if she vomits any more. If she does, well my vet told me that if Mullet vomits, bring him in. Has she eaten since then? If she has another episode of either vomiting or diarrhea, you probably want to call the ER and talk to them, and think about getting her there. Both of those things can also cause dehydration. I would also test for ketones. I would probably not shoot unless she eats a good bit first, and then a reduced dose. And a test to see if you get lower than "HI" would be a good idea too.
Not enough food, not enough insulin, and some sort of infection are the three big factors that can lead to ketones. She's already got 2 out of the 3 going on, so you want to make sure ketones are not present.
Carl
 
Re: Tip not eating, diarrhea, vomiting, 'Hi' reading

Alright, I went ahead and called the ER, they said it's past time to be productive to make her vomit anymore, and that since she hasn't vomited since then, and that she's still acting normal past not wanting to eat, it's likely passed. She has started to drink a good deal, so I assume that's a mixture of all of her symptoms. They also said to go ahead and get a bit more in her stomach, on calling I've managed to get about 3cc of purree'd chicken in her, as well as about 1cc purree'd friskies canned turkey pate, one of the flavors of her typical food. And then to go ahead and give her her insulin to attempt to bring the number down some. And eep, I didn't ask them that and went ahead and gave her the full dose after getting anoth cc of chicken in her. @_@ That's, overall, brought her up to eating about 5cc of food prior to shot, not sure how much that is in tsp/tbsp/cups though. Hopefully that's enough, I'll dutifully test to make sure she doesn't go too low.

I'll keep watching for more vomiting and such, and if she has more, I'll seriously think about getting her there. Thankfully I've got no plans to cancel tomorrow since it seems like it'll be a looonnnggg night.
 
Re: Tip not eating, diarrhea, vomiting, 'Hi' reading

Glad you talked to the ER! I think she'll be okay, and if you see her BG drop to levels you aren't comfortable with, syringe some more in small portions. It'll be nice if she decides to eat without the syringe at some point. That would tell you she over the "I don't want to eat!" phase.

carl
 
Re: Tip not eating, diarrhea, vomiting, 'Hi' reading

I would still try to get that ketone test in, if you can. Negative on the Ketone strip will be a big relief.
 
Re: Tip not eating, diarrhea, vomiting, 'Hi' reading

I'm glad too, definitely put my mind at ease a little. Alright, I'll keep testing her. About what intervals do you think would be good? Because I'm debating between every 2 hours to every hour, thankfully she's good with testing now, what with having a scare of being low and now a scare with chocolate. I'll definitely keep offering her regular food every once in a while, but won't force it unless she goes low.

Now to clean up the 'war zone' from trying to get her to eat. :lol: (Testing supplies sprea on one counter, purre'd food on another, bowl of puree'd chickin hanging out on my bed, messy blender out, etc.) At least now I have ketone strips, and if I can manage, I'll also get a test with that in. I hope she maybe learned her lesson not to eat chocolate, since the ER vet said that the chocolate was the most likely culprit.

Thank you so much.
 
Re: Tip not eating, diarrhea, vomiting, 'Hi' reading-Resolve

I sure hope Tip is eating better and feeling more up to snuff today.
 
Re: Tip not eating, diarrhea, vomiting, 'Hi' reading-Resolve

Oh! Forgot to update, yes, she's feeling and acting quite a bit better. :) Her numbers are definitely to reasonable levels now. She even decided to start eating again last night, so while I was cutting up the rest of the chicken I had cooked(didn't cut it all up and during the problem, put them in the freezer so they wouldn't go bad from being out) I warmed up an ounce or so and gave her that as well as some friskies. Didn't eat all of it, but she seemed happier that I wasn't force feeding her. Ate all 4oz of her food that I laid down.
 
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