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Kris10mo

Kris10mo

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I vet called me to tell me that Calley's urine sample came back clean.....no infections .....just the diabetes. So she is recommending something called Atopica to help with the vomiting. Anyone have a clue what that is and how it would help? I then asked her again about the budesonide and she said she would prescribe it for me after all. But she said it was in a pill form. Calley will never allow me to give her a pill. :(
 
kristin
they have this pill machine that i use on mine and it works. i had to practice for a while but u get the hang of it after a while. i have a few really difficult cats and i wrap them in a towel first. it helps to get on the floor and get behind them a bit. you put the plunger just at the back of their tongue and then close the mouth and rub their throat until they swallow.
here are a few videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fONjEnNLHvk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMXY2stkcaA

also: if it's possible to do an xray or ultrasound of her belly & intestines that might give you an idea of what's going on. one of mine had intestinal inflammation and was throwing up all the time. i know that those tests are expensive though and just not possible sometimes.
sending healing and hugs
nadine cat_pet_icon cat_pet_icon
 
Kris, I assume you've successfully pilled other cats and Calley is just really good at fighting or spitting it out, right? What's her particular method of thwarting your attempt to pill her? Knowing her tricks could help us see if we can collectively come up with a way to get a pill down her throat.

I looked up the Atopica and everything I can find says that it's to help with skin allergies/itching problems. And vomiting is a common side effect, so I have no idea why that would be a good solution for her unless her vet secretly thinks she's having problems from over-grooming?
 
Calley is DEFINITELY not overgrooming. LOL. She doesn't groom at all. :( I haven't a clue why the vet said anything about meds for a skin condition. She does not have a skin condition. That is about the ONLY thing she does not have.

I have not ever been successful at giving a cat a pill. My cat that was hypothyroid and was supposed to get pills I had to put down....as she wouldn't take pills either. She wasted away to nothing before I ended it.

I thought I read on the boards here somewhere that budesione was a liquid that you rubbed on the gums. Where did I see that?

Katie....I talked to the vet about an ultrasound and she said that it would be difficult to tell anything conclusive. If I thought it would be 100% with a definite answer...I would find the money to have it done.

Just more frustration.
 
The one you rub on their gums is Bupe/Buperenex which isn't going to help with vomiting because its a pain killer.

Mel and The Fur Gang
 
yeah kristin Atopica is not for vomiting. why is ur vet giving her that. time for yet another vet? i would ask why that medication. doesn't make any sense. and an ultrasound would show if there's a mass or enlarged intestines. at least u would know. i also don't know why the vet would not want to rule that out. my cat would eat non stop and vomit all the time as well as losing weight. sadly for him it was inflammed intestines from cancer but at least we knew the problem.
 
Nadine,

I am working with two different vets right now. I will ask the second vet about an ultrasound and see what he says. I tend to think he might be smarter about all this diabetes stuff.....though he also says the vomiting is most likely due to the diabetes. GO FIGURE.

I would like to know what the ultrasound would show. I do not think that she is just diabetic. Otherwise she would have responded better to insulin after nine months. I truly believe there is something big going on and I just don't know what it is. :(

Thanks Mel for educating me on bupe. Nope...I don't want pain killer...I want something to help with vomiting.
 
kristin
it's hard enough going thru all this but when u can't even trust your vet. i'm so sorry you have to deal with all of this.in my case, the ultrasound showed that Willy had cancer and that was what was making him throw up and eat like crazy. i hope that is not the case for you but you have to know what is causing this.
 
Kristin,

I have read most of your posts. It would seem to me that your cat either has IBD or a mild case of pancreatitis or something else going on. They can give you an injectable form of Pepcid if you are not able to pill her or injectable Ondansetron which is used to control vomiting and nausea in cats with cancer. Diabetes alone will not cause the vomiting.
I would suggest you have the vet run a test for pancreatitis which is which is a Spec fPl test.
IBD is difficult to find and call for a lot of invasive test which I would not suggest but would probably be much easier just to try to treat. Also very expensive.
I have a cat also that would vomit all the time that was hyperthyroid after he was diagnosed and started his med , no vomiting whatever.

Terri
 
Thanks all for the support.

Terri, Calley has been tested for hypothyroid.... with clean results. So that is one disease I can rule out. I sure hope it isn't cancer but if an ultrasound could rule that out....I'd be a good thing to do. I just can't afford it right now. I'm looking for a third job....hopefully I can find one.

What is injectible pepcid?
 
Yesterday my vet suggested Cosequin for Cats to help treat my Emmylou's chronic UTI. He said it calms the stomach wall.

So even though a drug may be known for one thing, it could be that it has been found to also help with another. Maybe this is the case with Atopica.
 
Like Mel said the Pepcid comes in a syringe to control stomach acid. The vet can give it to you. You might talk to the vet about it if you can not pill her.

Terri
 
Skooter is on a liquid form of budesonide....However it has to be ordered from a compound pharmacy as it is liquid.....some vets will have the pills that they sell, but if it is a liquid, it normally goes out to a compound pharmacy....

My vet uses Wedgewood Pharmacy, based out of New Jersey I believe....he gets .5mL once a day with breakfast....the bottle normally lasts me about 6-8 weeks and on average is about $60 to $65 for a bottle....but again, it does last for 6-8 weeks.....
 
One of my civvies has severe skin allergies, about 6 mos ago I reluctantly tried Atopica, after about 2 months she started throwing up, I took her off of it but now even 6 mos later she still has stomach problems, this medicine can cause tumors and low immune response, and does cause vomiting, if I were you I would not give this medicine to my cat under any circumstances, I am so sorry that I ever gave it to mine and her stomach was fine before I gave it to her, with the problems your cat has I cannot imagine what it would do to her, please do not give it to her.
 
Will she eat a Pill Pocket? Or something wrapped in a bit of cheese or meat?

How about liquid meds? With some meds, you can put it in an oral syringe, add water to dissolve it, optionally add some tasty mashed food, and give it that way.
 
Sometimes the easiest way is the simplest way. Hold 3 or 4 treats in your hand, with a pill in the middle.... the pill might go down with the rest. or wrap in cheddar cheese and place in front of said cat... no fuss, no muss, if they think they "stole" it, its better tasting!
 
My cat with Pemphigus (an autoimmune disease that effects her skin and causes hair loss) is on Atopica. It has helped treat that so she is healthy now and continues to be on a low dose of that. Not sure why it would be prescribed to help with vomiting

For vomiting, at least temporarily, our vet recommends 1/4 of a Pepcid pill (human kind over the counter at any pharmacy). If your cat likes treats, the chicken flavored Pill Pocket treats for cats worked very well for us. 1/4 of a Pepcid is a very teeny tiny pill so the pill pocket can even be cut in half and wrapped around it to cover it up. The cat just swallows it thinking it's a treat. This might help if the vomiting is caused by upset stomach or acid indegestion. As for long term needs, I don't know what a vet would recommend about that.
 
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