Switching from vetsulin to prozinc: Part 3

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I agree about the breathing problem since it seems to have come on so suddenly.
I just updated his SS, 130 for +7.5 didn't get back in time for a +6.:oops:
Isn't 385 down to 130 in 7.5 hours a pretty steep drop?
 
It's not turning out to be a good day to get in a decent curve. I'm beginning to wonder if the 2.5 is even too much for him right now.
 
I agree about the breathing problem since it seems to have come on so suddenly.
I just updated his SS, 130 for +7.5 didn't get back in time for a +6.:oops:
Isn't 385 down to 130 in 7.5 hours a pretty steep drop?
Yes, it is a steep drop. That can be a sign of too high a dose. Maybe try a 2.25 or even a 2 u dose tonight?
 
So he jumped from 130 at 7.5 to 267 at +10. I'll have to wait until PMPS to determine dose for tonight. I think it's possible that his breathing problems are affecting his BG's right now. The vet assumed I've been giving him three units for the past two weeks. I really didn't feel like correcting her since she has not changed his dose in a month now. :eek:
 
I'm really much more concerned about his breathing difficulties and what the bloodwork and X-ray consult from radiologist results might mean for him.
 
So he jumped from 130 at 7.5 to 267 at +10. I'll have to wait until PMPS to determine dose for tonight. I think it's possible that his breathing problems are affecting his BG's right now. The vet assumed I've been giving him three units for the past two weeks. I really didn't feel like correcting her since she has not changed his dose in a month now. :eek:
You didn't need to get into that with her today. You have enough on your mind. Yes, if the breathing is stressing him it could raise BG. Is it better, worse or about the same?
 
It is better than yesterday afternoon but same tonight as today. I just updated his SS if you want to take a peak at it. I'm giving him his shot in about 15 minutes.
 
It is better than yesterday afternoon but same tonight as today. I just updated his SS if you want to take a peak at it. I'm giving him his shot in about 15 minutes.
I say hang on to the improvement in his breathing today as a positive thing. Had a look at your SS. Are you thinking the same dose as this AM?
 
I would rather give him either 2.25 tonight while I can watch him. Either that or give him 2 u tonight and tomorrow am.
He did drop pretty low on the 2.5 dose earlier.
 
OK so now that the curve is done shld I use relion or AT2 for before bed test? I'm thinking pet meter since I used one all day.
 
He is about the same, doesn't seem to be in any distress though. He was running in circles when I took out his canned food for his breakfast.
 
He was breathing hard for a little bit after running around. The vet said he probably would not survive surgery or radiation treatments if it is cancer. First of all, I would not put him thru that. I have to wait and see what the results are at this point.
 
He was breathing hard for a little bit after running around. The vet said he probably would not survive surgery or radiation treatments if it is cancer. First of all, I would not put him thru that. I have to wait and see what the results are at this point.
Yes, that's all you can do, Lisa. One day at a time. Fingers crossed ...
 
Smoky was back in the pinks tonight. I don't know if the 2.25u is enough. Maybe give him 2.5u again? Also, it could be the breathing difficulties are causing his BG's to go up again.
 
I'm a little confused this morning with Smokys BG numbers
Tues AMPS: 296, gave 2.25u
PMPS: 315, gave 2.5u
+2 was 297
Wed AMPS: 393

Smokys BG's seemed to have shot up this morning, was last nights dose too high or not enough. I don't want to give him too much since he dropped so low on Sunday.
 
I'm a little confused this morning with Smokys BG numbers
Tues AMPS: 296, gave 2.25u
PMPS: 315, gave 2.5u
+2 was 297
Wed AMPS: 393

Smokys BG's seemed to have shot up this morning, was last nights dose too high or not enough. I don't want to give him too much since he dropped so low on Sunday.
It's possible that he dropped lower after his 297 last night and has given you a bounce number this AM. Not to worry. You can try dropping back to 2.25 u to see if he lowers a bit from the bounce or you can give 2.5 u because of today's AM pink. Can you test him at lunch time?
 
I think I will go with your idea of giving 2.25 just to keep him safe. The breathing issues could be raising it temporarily, I think
 
I think I will go with your idea of giving 2.25 just to keep him safe. The breathing issues could be raising it temporarily, I think
That works. Are you keeping a log of how he's breathing? Might be worthwhile, maybe even use a bit of a rating scale, say 0 to 3 with 0 being no problem and 3 being a struggle. I've done that in the past for kitty issues and it helped me see progress better if recovery was slow-ish. I couldn't just rely on my memory.
 
Yep, the vet said to count his breaths for 10 seconds and multiply by 6. The normal range is 28-32 breaths per minute. Smoky is at 36 right now.
 
Yep, the vet said to count his breaths for 10 seconds and multiply by 6. The normal range is 28-32 breaths per minute. Smoky is at 36 right now.
That's above normal but not extreme. If this air in lungs issue slowly developed after the fall (and that's a decent theory for now) it'll probably take some time to resolve. No need to worry about the needle procedure right now. I know how easy it is to get into a frightened muddle when your mind jumps ahead.
 
Smoky at 250 for am
Safe to give 2.25? thought maybe 2u wld be safer. I'm not sure if I can check him at lunchtime today or not.
 
Smoky at 250 for am
Safe to give 2.25? thought maybe 2u wld be safer. I'm not sure if I can check him at lunchtime today or not.
Hi Lisa,

You gave him 2.25 u on a 206 on 12/15 AM so he should be OK with 2.25 u today. But - if you feel better giving 2 u so you don't worry if you can't check him, go with that. We have to consider our feelings about doses too.
 
Smoky: PMPS was 212, think I will give him 2.25u tonight. I feel better in the evening changing doses as I can watch him.
 
Smoky was 212 for PMPS last night and dropped to 146 for am. Wow! I guess that's not too big a drop though. I don't want to give him 2.25u with a 146 though.
 
Smoky was 212 for PMPS last night and dropped to 146 for am. Wow! I guess that's not too big a drop though. I don't want to give him 2.25u with a 146 though.
No, not at 146 for sure. You shot 2 u on a 137 on 12/11. You could try that. Here's where having the SS data is so very useful.
 
I saw the date you were referencing, I don't have any mid day tests on that date to see how low he went. I thought it wld be safer to stick with the 2.75u dose.
I have to work on Christmas day so have off Monday and Thursday of the week following the holiday.
 
I saw the date you were referencing, I don't have any mid day tests on that date to see how low he went. I thought it wld be safer to stick with the 2.75u dose.
I have to work on Christmas day so have off Monday and Thursday of the week following the holiday.
Safe is always best. :)
 
I'm thinking about giving him same dose as yesterday am, a little over 2 u, maybe 2.25 a little too high? Your thoughts on that?
 
Roommate said he was nauseous this morning so going to give a 1/4 tab of cerenia. When is the best time to give that to him? On an empty stomach or how long after a meal? Smoky tends to get sick when given pills on a completely empty tummy.
 
I'm thinking about giving him same dose as yesterday am, a little over 2 u, maybe 2.25 a little too high? Your thoughts on that?
You gave 2.25 u last night on a 212 and he was low this AM. PMPS tonight is high enough to try 2.25 u again. Can you so a test before bed? When you start seeing action like this dosing is a bit of trial and (hopefully not too big) error.
 
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