Switching from vetsulin to prozinc: Part 15

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Lisa be careful with that cat book link. May be sincere but that person just joined and has only advertised the sale of that book.
 
Smoky seems to have taken a turn for the worse. He was laying on his side in the hallway this morning. The vet thinks he has fluid building up in his abdomen.
I may need to take him in sooner than I had planned to. I made an appt for May 30 for his old vet to see him. I'm prepared to have him put to sleep the same day which seems likely.
 
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Smoky seems to have taken a turn for the worse. He was laying on his side in the hallway this morning. The vet thinks he has fluid building up in his abdomen.
I may need to take him in sooner than I had planned to. I made an appt for May 30 for his old vet to see him. I'm prepared to have him put to sleep the same day which seems likely.
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I'm so sorry you have to see him like this, Lisa. :(
 
Smokys old vet was able to see him today. He thinks he will be OK until June 9 which was my original date to bring him in for euthanasia. He said to call him if Smoky gets worse and I need to bring him in sooner.
 
Lisa, I'm so so sorry you're having to go through this. I'm glad the old vet sounds willing to work with you and do what it takes. :bighug:
 
Oh Lisa! I'm so sorry! Thank goodness for your old vet. He sounds like a really wonderful person.
 
Smoky doesn't want to eat his regular low carb wet food. He was 153 for PMPS 30 minutes ago. I might be able to get him to eat a little high carb food. I don't know if I shld give him a shot or not?
 
If he doesn't eat don't give him a shot, but if he eats some food, and especially if it's higher carb food, you could probably give him a shot and be okay. It looks like you've given 0.5 on similar numbers.
 
He was walking around crying so I think he is in some pain. I gave him some bupe and he is hiding under the ottoman. I ended up not giving him a shot tonight. The vet at the cat clinic called in a prescription for more bupe for him. I'll be picking that up tomorrow. I explained that I had made the decision to just let him go and needed the pain meds until June 9. I'm surprised she agreed to my request. I gave him some liquid budesonide instead of the pred in pill form since his stomach is bothering him.
 
Poor thing. I agree, just feed him whatever he wants...don't worry about carb level anymore. Since you've made the decision, I think you can just let him have whatever he wants/will eat and dose around it. Hope the bupe helps. :bighug:
 
Once again, making him comfortable might in turn make you a little more comfortable, and enjoy the rest of your time together
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Smoky BG at 186 for PMPS tonight. It's not too bad considering the NS this morning.
I'm giving him the prednisolone later as it seems to help with the inflammation.
Is 0.6 units too much of a dose? I'm trying to coax him to eat enough for a shot. I don't want his BG to go too high causing him to feel worse from high blood sugar.
 
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Smoky BG at 186 for PMPS tonight. It's not too bad considering the NS this morning.
I'm giving him the prednisolone later as it seems to help with the inflammation.
Is 0.6 units too much of a dose? I'm trying to coax him to eat enough for a shot. I don't want his BG to go too high causing him to feel worse from high blood sugar.
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I think 0.6 u can work.
 
How do I know how much he needs to eat for it to be safe to give him insulin? I gave him some bupe about 45 minutes ago. His normal shot time is about 30 minutes from now. He usually responds to the bupe in about 2 hours.
 
I've read on some of the older posts that they just need to eat enough to show you that they are willing to eat. Then you just keep an eye on them and make sure they eat a little more before the +2 onset.

I've also read 1-2 tablespoons.
 
I gave Smoky the prednisolone last night and he vomited it back up about 45 minutes later. Half of the 5mg pill was still there. I called the vet who said to give him half a mL of the liquid budesonide and see how he does on that.
He ate about half of a small can of food this morning, also gave him some bupe thus morning. My mom is there today to coax him to eat more later.
 
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I gave Smoky the prednisolone last night and he vomited it back up about 45 minutes later. Half of the 5mg pill was still there. I called the vet who said to give him half a mL of the liquid budesonide and see how he does on that.
He ate about half of a small can of food this morning, also gave him some bupe thus morning. My mom is there today to coax him to eat more later.
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Smoky is still losing weight very quickly.
He is down to 7 lbs and I'm not sure how much nutrition he is getting from his food. The thickening of his intestinal walls from the lymphoma is causing problems with his digestion. He ate about 7 oz so far today. I'm afraid he won't make it until June 9 and I'll have to see if I can get him in on Tuesday or Wed next week. I don't know what to do here.:(

I can take him to the ER vet but they are strangers and I don't know if they follow the humane procedure of euthanasia. My old vet sedates them first before giving the final shot plus he knows them.
 
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Oh Lisa. I think that if you ask, anyone will offer sedation. However, I think I might just wait and see if you can get it next week if you feel it's time to let him go now. Does your old vet by chance accept calls after hours? He might be willing to offer an opinion or maybe order something stronger for pain relief?
 
My old vet doesn't take after hours calls. This vet does do emergencies during work hours. He said to call him if I need to bring Smoky in right away. I wouldn't have to wait for an appt. Smoky did eat more after his pain meds kicked in a little. I think he gets worse at night. I'm debating on whether to give him insulin tonight or not. His BG was 158 and right now he is resting comfortably on my bed. His childhood vet said to just assess him each day and go from there.
 
Forgive me if this is too bold or improper but before you take Smoky in for that visit, I would think it's ok to give him his favourite meal / snacks and lots of hugs and kisses before he goes :bighug:. He will already leave knowing how much you loved him :bighug:, that is unmistakable
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I agree entirely. Give him anything he wants...dose around it but don't worry too much about it. Anything he enjoys/wants/likes, I say give it to him.

Did you decide to give him a dose? I think it would be fine to give or to skip.
 
I'm doing OK Kris. Smoky was bugging me this morning. He had jumped into the window and was pawing at the blinds. He wanted to sit in his window and sun himself.;) I gave him 0.8 units on a BG of 196 in am. He had eaten almost a 3 oz can of food this morning. He is back in his window again now. I was about to get in a +4 test but he just ate about 15 minutes ago.
 
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I'm doing OK Kris. Smoky was bugging me this morning. He had jumped into the window and was pawing at the blinds. He wanted to sit in his window and sun himself.;) I gave him 0.8 units on a BG of 196 in am. He had eaten almost a 3 oz can of food this morning. He is back in his window again now. I was about to get in a +4 test but he just ate about 15 minutes ago.
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I hope he continues to have a better day today. :bighug:
 
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