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I'm not a dosing expert, but I saw your question so here I am. You're still getting levels 500+. You haven't had any levels in the green mid-cycle. I agree with Deb to up the dose to 1 unit. It's possible Deb thought you had already given morning dose. I certainly don't think upping to 1 unit this morning would be an issue. Will you be home to keep an eye on your baby during the day? It's unlikely that Tiger will have any hypo issues, but as you know, it's always best to be cautious with a dose increase.
 
Juls and Billy said:
I'm not a dosing expert, but I saw your question so here I am. You're still getting levels 500+. You haven't had any levels in the green mid-cycle. I agree with Deb to up the dose to 1 unit. It's possible Deb thought you had already given morning dose. I certainly don't think upping to 1 unit this morning would be an issue. Will you be home to keep an eye on your baby during the day? It's unlikely that Tiger will have any hypo issues, but as you know, it's always best to be cautious with a dose increase.
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Ya I don't get up until 10am..I go to bed around 4am
 
Ok, not sure when your last insulin dose was.
What dosing cycle are you in? AM or PM?

Do not give any insulin more often than every 12 hours.
Not even if you think you gave a fur shot.
Not even if you think the dose did not all go in.
Not even if your cat is running at high blood glucose levels.
Test for ketones if high BG's
Prozinc can have a bit of an overlap effect in SOME cats.
Prozinc can have a duration of between 10 -14 hours.

ECID Every Cat is Different.
You need to test and find the onset, nadir and duration for your cat.
BG testing is the best way we know how to find that out.

Very risky to give more insulin in the same dosing cycle.

AMPS is morning or AM Pre-shot test
PMPS is evening or PM pre-shot test.
+1 is 1 hour after giving insulin
+2 is 2 hours after giving insulin.

SS is the best way for us to see what you are doing with the dosing.
 
When you get your SS setup, put notes on there.
So we know when your AM cycle starts.
So we know when your PM cycle starts.

p.s. We posted at the same time, so I do not know if you saw my prior post to you.

You may have to read back in the post a bit.
 
Deb & Wink said:
Ok, not sure when your last insulin dose was.
What dosing cycle are you in? AM or PM?

Do not give any insulin more often than every 12 hours.
Not even if you think you gave a fur shot.
Not even if you think the dose did not all go in.
Not even if your cat is running at high blood glucose levels.
Test for ketones if high BG's
Prozinc can have a bit of an overlap effect in SOME cats.
Prozinc can have a duration of between 10 -14 hours.

ECID Every Cat is Different.
You need to test and find the onset, nadir and duration for your cat.
BG testing is the best way we know how to find that out.

Very risky to give more insulin in the same dosing cycle.

AMPS is morning or AM Pre-shot test
PMPS is evening or PM pre-shot test.
+1 is 1 hour after giving insulin
+2 is 2 hours after giving insulin.

SS is the best way for us to see what you are doing with the dosing.
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The lowest he has been is 410 and that was +3 after the morning shot
 
jkhabitat said:
Think I'm gonna go with 1 unit
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If you have not given the AM or morning dose ,then 1 unit sounds good.

p.s. Can't wait until the SS is up and running and linked to your signature.
Noon here.
But when I dosed my cat he'd get his shot at 7 am my time.
It's why we use the + hour system. So we know how long it's been since you gave insulin when we read your spreadsheet.
+ hour system limitation is we have no idea what times you give the shot.
So some comment in your post to let us know the dosing cycle, AM or PM is needed.
As well as some comment in your post as to how long it is before you give the shot.
People using Prozinc often find that testing at +11 will let them know if the Pre-shot BG rises a lot between +11 and the next pre-shot test.


p.p.s Dang computer is locking up on me again today. Darn internet too slow. Hate comcast.
 
Deb & Wink said:
If you have not given the AM or morning dose ,then 1 unit sounds good.

p.s. Can't wait until the SS is up and running and linked to your signature.
Noon here.
But when I dosed my cat he'd get his shot at 7 am my time.
It's why we use the + hour system. So we know how long it's been since you gave insulin when we read your spreadsheet.
+ hour system limitation is we have no idea what times you give the shot.
So some comment in your post to let us know the dosing cycle, AM or PM is needed.
As well as some comment in your post as to how long it is before you give the shot.
People using Prozinc often find that testing at +11 will let them know if the Pre-shot BG rises a lot between +11 and the next pre-shot test.


p.p.s Dang computer is locking up on me again today. Darn internet too slow. Hate comcast.
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According to my notes the +11 is always high over 500, the +3(after morning shot) has been the only times that it was in the low 400s
 
Until you get that SS setup, would you make a list and put it in this post. Something like this, replacing the x's with your actual BG tests and units of insulin given. If you would please.

Date, AMPS (pre-shot test BG), Units given, any BG tests after that in our + hour format. PMPS (pre-shot test BG) U U (Units given), any BG tests after that in our + hours format.
2/14 AMPS xxx x U +3 xxx PMPS xxx U xx +
2/15 AMPS xxx x U +3 xxx PMPS xxx U xx + +11 HI (>500)
2/16 AMPS 545 1 U + xxx PMPS xxx U xx +
 
That list helped. Thank you.

Let's see if the 1U of Prozinc can budge the blood glucose.
I'd only wait 3 cycles, before bumping the dose up another 0.25U.
Don't want you to bypass a good dose.
Your choice, if you want to increase by more.
 
Now you need to link it into your signature.
If you need directions on editing the signature, and linking the SS, directions are here in this thread.
FDMB Spreadsheet Instructions

Look in the first post in that thread, about 2/3rds of the way down in the spreadsheet instructions, on how to get that link in your signature. Once you do that, it will be available on a view-only basis when we click on the signature link. Only you have access to update the SS, from your google account.

While you are there, remove your last name, location as we are trying to be more conscious of security, since this is a public forum. Anyone can read your name and location.

Found your twitter account prettily easily.
 
Deb & Wink said:
Now you need to link it into your signature.
If you need directions on editing the signature, and linking the SS, directions are here in this thread.
FDMB Spreadsheet Instructions

Look in the first post in that thread, about 2/3rds of the way down in the spreadsheet instructions, on how to get that link in your signature. Once you do that, it will be available on a view-only basis when we click on the signature link. Only you have access to update the SS, from your google account.

While you are there, remove your last name, location as we are trying to be more conscious of security, since this is a public forum. Anyone can read your name and location.

Found your twitter account prettily easily.
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When I clicked to insert the link is real long. Is the link supposed to be real long?
 
You can shorten the name your put in your signature. Such as Tiger's SS.
Then you highlight those letters and click on the little chain icon in the post header.
Copy the URL that Chris gave you and you have the link in your signature.

You may need to have a second window open to do this. Or save the Url to your clipboard or to another location.

Instructions for pasting the SS link in your FDMB Signature block:

1. Login to FDMB and click on your user name in the upper right corner.

2. Select "signature”. The signature block is limited to three lines. If you have a lot of other information in your signature block, please be sure you place the spreadsheet link so it is easily located by other members (i.e. please don’t stick it at the very end of a long, detailed description of medications).

3. Put your cursor in the text box, type in your kitty’s name with the word “Spreadsheet” (e.g. Furbaby’s Spreadsheet), highlight those words, and then click on the “hyperlink" icon above the text box:



4. A text box will open that states "link"; paste your link into the box next to “URL” and click on “insert”.



5. This should result in the highlighted text turning light blue which means it is now a hyperlink to the spreadsheet and anyone clicking on it can see the spreadsheet.

6. Click "save changes" and you're done!! Great job!!!! If you need any help at all, please send me a private message by clicking on “Marje and Gracie” (to the left under Gracie’s photo) and then “Start a Conversation”. I am more than happy to help you or do the Spreadsheet for you.

I believe the signature is now limited to 2 lines and 250 characters. So abbreviate other things we you can. Or leave them out.

Never mind you have it now.
 
Deb & Wink said:
Now you need to link it into your signature.
If you need directions on editing the signature, and linking the SS, directions are here in this thread.
FDMB Spreadsheet Instructions

Look in the first post in that thread, about 2/3rds of the way down in the spreadsheet instructions, on how to get that link in your signature. Once you do that, it will be available on a view-only basis when we click on the signature link. Only you have access to update the SS, from your google account.

While you are there, remove your last name, location as we are trying to be more conscious of security, since this is a public forum. Anyone can read your name and location.

Found your twitter account prettily easily.
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I don't use twitter much at all
 
jkhabitat said:
Did you just click on my profile and it showed you this stuff?
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Mostly from your full name and your vague state location that you had in your signature. Before I alerted you to change it.
Lots of internet sites let you find more info on someone with just a little bit of data.
Like beenverified.

Yes, user names can be changed.
All history will be changed to reflect the new user name.
All former posts are changed to reflect the latest and greatest info in the signature.

There is software behind the scenes that links signature data to your post.
It's not actually part of your post.
 
Still high. With Prozinc being an in-and-out insulin, you could consider increasing the dose by 0.25U dose increments until you see better BG levels.

Testing in both 12 hour dosing cycles is recommended. Many cats drop to lower BG levels in the nighttime, as they are more active then.

I think Tiger is high enough you could attempt a dose increase almost every cycle. Be prepared to monitor closely with dose increases. Be prepared with your hypo kit and instructions. So you know what to do if the BG (blood glucose) tests/readings/levels are low.
You might want to practice changing your thread title also. Upper right hand corner of the screen to edit and get the thread tools options.
 
Deb & Wink said:
Still high. With Prozinc being an in-and-out insulin, you could consider increasing the dose by 0.25U dose increments until you see better BG levels.

Testing in both 12 hour dosing cycles is recommended. Many cats drop to lower BG levels in the nighttime, as they are more active then.

I think Tiger is high enough you could attempt a dose increase almost every cycle. Be prepared to monitor closely with dose increases. Be prepared with your hypo kit and instructions. So you know what to do if the BG (blood glucose) tests/readings/levels are low.
You might want to practice changing your thread title also. Upper right hand corner of the screen to edit and get the thread tools options.
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In a hurry..I did get 2 readings in the middle of the night(my time) PMPS 360 +3, 375 +6
I'll check into the other stuff. Yes I have a kit..always lol
 
Deb & Wink said:
Still high. With Prozinc being an in-and-out insulin, you could consider increasing the dose by 0.25U dose increments until you see better BG levels.

Testing in both 12 hour dosing cycles is recommended. Many cats drop to lower BG levels in the nighttime, as they are more active then.

I think Tiger is high enough you could attempt a dose increase almost every cycle. Be prepared to monitor closely with dose increases. Be prepared with your hypo kit and instructions. So you know what to do if the BG (blood glucose) tests/readings/levels are low.
You might want to practice changing your thread title also. Upper right hand corner of the screen to edit and get the thread tools options.
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About the title change..what would I change it too? I haven't had him officially diagnosed yet.
 
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