So. Much. Diarrhea.

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George seems to be allergic to chicken, tuna, turkey, pork, beef, guinea fowl, mackerel, and every other protein I’ve tried. She had been on Koha Rabbit for months but recently stopped eating it. I was able to get her eating again by mixing in Tiki Chicken and Pumpkin but that caused horrible diarrhea. So I switched to mixing in Tiki Tuna. Less frequent diarrhea. So I switched to mixing in Blue Buffalo Hydrolyzed Salmon but her BG skyrocketed (after researching all day I finally found why - carb DMB is 40%!!!). I’m desperate. I even paid for an allergy test at the vet but it was total bullshit and a huge waste of money.
 
Jade & George said:
George seems to be allergic to chicken, tuna, turkey, pork, beef, guinea fowl, mackerel, and every other protein I’ve tried. She had been on Koha Rabbit for months but recently stopped eating it. I was able to get her eating again by mixing in Tiki Chicken and Pumpkin but that caused horrible diarrhea. So I switched to mixing in Tiki Tuna. Less frequent diarrhea. So I switched to mixing in Blue Buffalo Hydrolyzed Salmon but her BG skyrocketed (after researching all day I finally found why - carb DMB is 40%!!!). I’m desperate. I even paid for an allergy test at the vet but it was total bullshit and a huge waste of money.
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I am so sorry you are having all these problems. I do not know of anything that could help you, except I wanted to remind you of Dr.Lisa's New Food Chart that tells the different Foods for your cat and their Nutritional Composition. That is the only way that i know how many carbs are in my cat's food. Hopefully everything will start getting better for you and George.
 
Have you ever tried s. boulardii? More info, including dosing
https://www.ibdkitties.net/supplements/probiotics/ You might also want to try a probiotic that is good for IBD, like Visbiome. You can do it and s. boulardii.

Have you tried venison, lamb, or kangaroo? Or try a different rabbit brand. Sometimes a raw or freeze dried raw version (Stella & Chewy's or Primal rabbit) are acceptable to cats.
 
Have you considered a raw or home cooked diet? Making one from scratch means you control the ingredients that go into the food. The Catinfo.org recipe is a good one to start but with a novel protein instead of chicken. A semi-homemade way to make a raw or cooked diet is to use a pre-mix such as Alnutrin with the meat of your choice. Hare-Today.com has a ton of novel proteins you can try for either a raw or cooked diet.

A commercial raw diet might be an easier way to start. Freeze dried and air dried raw are usually more acceptable to cats than frozen raw.

Is it just proteins that your cat is allergic to? All sorts of things in commercial cat food can cause allergies in cats: oils, veggies, legumes, etc. Leroy is allergic to goat milk and mussels :rolleyes: Some time ago on a different cat board there was a person whose cat was allergic to pretty much everything in cat food. There was maybe two or three foods the cat could eat with minimal issues. I think the cat had some immune compromised health status but I don't recall. The person had a spreadsheet with a ton of canned cat foods and their ingredients and used it to track which foods the cat could and couldn't eat. I have a copy of it but it needs some updating before I can post it for sharing.

A bland-ish food is often helpful. Rayne has a kangaroo and a rabbit canned food you could try. https://raynenutrition.com/

Probiotics might be helpful as Wendy mentioned. Another good web site is http://www.rawfeedingforibdcats.org/probiotics-for-cats---why-and-which-ones.html

For diarrhea, there might be info here https://www.foodfurlife.com/my-cat-has-diarrhea---what-do-i-do.html#/ Looks like S. boulardii with MOS is very helpful.
 
squeem3 said:
Have you considered a raw or home cooked diet? Making one from scratch means you control the ingredients that go into the food. The Catinfo.org recipe is a good one to start but with a novel protein instead of chicken. A semi-homemade way to make a raw or cooked diet is to use a pre-mix such as Alnutrin with the meat of your choice. Hare-Today.com has a ton of novel proteins you can try for either a raw or cooked diet.

A commercial raw diet might be an easier way to start. Freeze dried and air dried raw are usually more acceptable to cats than frozen raw.

Is it just proteins that your cat is allergic to? All sorts of things in commercial cat food can cause allergies in cats: oils, veggies, legumes, etc. Leroy is allergic to goat milk and mussels :rolleyes: Some time ago on a different cat board there was a person whose cat was allergic to pretty much everything in cat food. There was maybe two or three foods the cat could eat with minimal issues. I think the cat had some immune compromised health status but I don't recall. The person had a spreadsheet with a ton of canned cat foods and their ingredients and used it to track which foods the cat could and couldn't eat. I have a copy of it but it needs some updating before I can post it for sharing.

A bland-ish food is often helpful. Rayne has a kangaroo and a rabbit canned food you could try. https://raynenutrition.com/

Probiotics might be helpful as Wendy mentioned. Another good web site is http://www.rawfeedingforibdcats.org/probiotics-for-cats---why-and-which-ones.html

For diarrhea, there might be info here https://www.foodfurlife.com/my-cat-has-diarrhea---what-do-i-do.html#/ Looks like S. boulardii with MOS is very helpful.
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I will look into all of this, thank you! I have no idea what she’s ACTUALLY allergic to - just that when I feed her certain foods she has diarrhea. How do I figure this out? I’ve done elimination diets myself but it’s basically a full-time job and I already have a couple of those. I don’t cook for myself so I’d be nervous to try cooking for George but I’m willing to try! I don’t think I can do raw bc I need to be able to leave it out for her for at least a few hours at a time. I currently feed her one 3.5 oz can at 9/10am, one at 3/4pm, and two at 9/10pm.

She finally had a solid poo today and her BG was only 210 so I’m a little further from the edge than I was yesterday.
 
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It would be easiest to start with a bland food like a LID canned food or homemade. Give it a few weeks to see if diarrhea or other symptoms occur. If nothing, try one new food and give that a few weeks for symptoms to show up or not. If symptoms do show up, compare the new food with the bland food to see what the ingredient differences are and deduce the possible culprit(s).

Home cooked doesn't have to be complicated. Cook up some meat with no seasonings or oil, shred or dice up, add a pre-mix and some water, mix, portion out into portions (single servings, daily portions, whatever works for you), and freeze. Gently poaching meat in plain water is good enough plus the cooking liquid can be used to mix everything together. Take a look at this post for baking lamb: https://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/1-28-pookey-amps-111-3-77-4-79-pmps-108-3-70-4-78.297868/ Popular pre-mixes to use are EZComplete, Know Better (note: chicken and beef are used in the mixes so maybe not good to use for your cat), and TC Feline.

Leroy eats Vital Essentials freeze dried rabbit which is basically bland. No fillers in it. You can give it a try. Break up a patty and offer has a treat to see if your cat is interested in it. For a meal, rehydrate a well broken up patty with water.
 
I agree with @squeem3 about a homemade diet. It may be other ingredients in the food that you are feeding that could be causing the issues. Here is the recipe I use. I do cook my proteins in an instant pot instead of using raw. Cook and cool the meat in water and let it cool before mixing in the other ingredients. I use the cooled cooking water to mix everything together. I also use powdered eggs instead of raw ones. All of the supplements I buy from Amazon.

https://www.rawfeedingforibdcats.org/balanced-recipe-for-use-with-raw-or-cooked-proteins.html
 
You can also use a timed feeder. There are a few models that have space for an ice pack.

I'd also second Wendy's suggestion regarding S. boulardii. It's magic when it comes to controlling diarrhea.
 
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