Shanti numbers really high, not wanting to eat.

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Shantismom

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Shanti has started the TR protocol. His AMP 427. Pooped outside litter box in the night and vomited at 2:30, no sign that he has eaten since then. Waiting to shoot because I am not sure what to do. He is in the room with me drinking. He has now vomited again.
Taking him to the vet.
 
With glucose levels that high, even without eating, the cat needs some insulin to process the glucose. The higher number today might be due to eating more last night after the ondansetron.

Some insulin may help to just to get the glucose down somewhat and allow Shanti to use it for energy. We generally increase in 0.25 to 0.5 units at a time and you've stepped up whole units twice in 2 days. Its really important to understand that Lantus has a depot - a carryover effect - and dose increases take about 3-5 days to stabilize.
 
Glad to hear he's back from the vet. :thumbup

Here's your post in TR in case anyone else is following along.

Shantismom said:
She said that the people on this board are not vets, I told her all of you have had diabetic cats and have dealt with alot of the issues I am going through. She said they can be a support group but medical decisions have to be left to the vet.

This is absurd. Human diabetics don't have to go to the doctor every time they want to adjust their insulin and there are human diabetes boards out there that do exactly what we do here.
 
I actually agree with the vet in this case. Having personal experience and knowledge doesn't replace a medical degree and license. Human diabetics do go the doctor a minimum of every 3 months for basic monitoring and dosage adjustment by their doctors. They are supposed to adjust their insulin according to their doctor's prescription. There is some leeway to that, of course, and they are specifically educated about this. But most human diabetics are on short acting insulin or 2 different kinds of insulin. They have basal insulin, sliding scale insulin (correction), and insulin for food. This is all carefully given. The way your protocol works, you're meshing it all together which is different. You're using a long-acting insulin and treating it like sliding scale, by dosing based on blood sugar value. Most vets dose a standard amount which would be more like a basal or food dose (maybe both). The variation in insulin dosing is more likely to lead a fluctuations in BG. You're just chasing sugars over a longer period and not really accounting for food eaten. Regardless of carb content, all calories affect blood glucose, just at a different rate.

To Shanti's mom: Its up to you how you decide to manage your cat but from your vet's perspective, it can be very difficult to help you if you aren't willing to work with her. Maybe you can find a way to compromise on a protocol? It sounds like the scale she gave you was an attempt to do that on her part. I know you care very much about your kitty and want to do what's best for it. Sometimes you just have to try one thing at a time. There isn't a wrong way to take care of him, it's always a journey figuring out what works best sometimes it changes over time. You're doing just fine.
 
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