Shakes - 36 jsut gave a lot of dry food! help

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how long after shot are you? Don't give him tons...you might need him to eat more in a bit. Check him again in 15mins.
 
this is his +5....he ate the food and is responsive
just went to drink water I tested again and he is 37
 
Brown sugar watered down to rub on gums..

Bread in drenched in milk to eat

Don't worry about how high you run him up...get him up
 
just teested he is 41...cant find the ****ing honey
i am afraid to run out
he is responsive and just peed...when do I completely panic I am only 80% panic
 
Don't freak out and overload the system. You want him still hungry so he will continue to eat. Give him a good dollop of a higher carb food with gravy and test again in 15-30 min. If he isn't showing any signs of a hypo (drunkeness, lethargy, etc) then it isn't a dire situation. Oscar hits those numbers on occasion out of the blue and has absolutely no symptoms either.
 
Sometimes the more people that start posting the harder it is to concentrate on the info...I would take it down..Your call
 
He will be okay--you are on top of it......do you have a syringe...if needed?
 
agree with Kelly, barring any physical symptoms of hypo, just take a deep breath, keep your wits about you and he'll be up in no time at all. i know easier said than done but you can do it.
 
kse said:
Thanks for coming Kelly..
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No problem!

I just read your other thread Denise - for tomorrow's dose I'd go a little more conservative since you will be at work all day and go with 2.5u. Shakes could either bounce hard from this 36 or be more insulin sensitive tomorrow. ECID especially in this situation. He definitely needs a dose reduction though. If you were able to test tomorrow, I'd say 2.75u though.

Thank goodness you caught this tonight! Good job!
 
Oh my GOD!!
thank you all so much for keeping me half way calm
I tested and he is 62, I am breathing and crying at the same time

thank you all for coming on to keep me down!
I will continue to watch
should i take his blook every 15 or 30min now...
I did give him high carb dry food
 
You need to keep a check on him---food spike from the HC food--someone said earlier today, that they have had them go back low after the food wears off.

Please reduce the dose tomorrow!
 
Boy that HC dry worked fast! Glad he's coming up! Put honey or Karo on your shopping list for tomorrow.....and keep it on the counter. :YMHUG:
 
You are in the clear for right now, no need for testing every 15 min anymore. Definitely test every hour right now so you can catch when that higher carb food wears off - or see when the zoom will happen (so you can go to bed). The thing with dry food is that it takes longer for the body to process, so the effects last longer. With the L's since hypo numbers can last forever, I sometimes give high carb wet food to bring up numbers now and a few crunchies to keep numbers up for a few hours (for an example).
 
I cant thank you all enough for helping me right now..
I am afraid to shoot him up tomorrow and leave...maybe I should shoot like a 2?
and hell yes the honey will be on the counter tomorrow!
 
What brand of Honey was that you were looking?!

You did great...REDUCE the dose!
 
I think I would be the same way....that's why I keep the karo right on my kitchen counter. :smile: I don't blame you for being scared to leave him, he's been dropping pretty low lately.
 
dmartini4 said:
I am afraid to shoot him up tomorrow and leave...maybe I should shoot like a 2?
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Remember what I said about the big chicken doses at this point in the game? A 1u reduction is a big reduction, just like a 1u increase is a big increase to take at one time. Shakes has a lot of carbs in his system right now. I really think a 0.5u reduction would be a good option. For peace of mind, can you steal away during the lunch hour to check on him tomorrow?
 
You all did a great job!! Here I am back on page 30+ looking for an old post ohmygod_smile

I would be nervous about what to shoot tomorrow too. Just shoot whatever makes you comfortable and Shakes safe.
 
Whoa, Denise. Our internet has been down for several hours because of electrical storms so I missed your excitement. Shakes is certainly giving you some heart stopping moments. Great job with a potential hypo! Great that Kelly was here.

The boy wants a dose reduction! dancing_cat dancing_cat

Agree with Kelly. I'd try not to overreact and lower it a bunch. Depends on whether you can get home around nadir or whether you just want to play it safe until you feel better about things.
 
unfortuantley i work about 45 min to one hour away so imposible to make it back here and go back
I am just afraid that he was so insulin sensitive from lat night to today and now tonight
its crazy! but he is cleaning himself now and looking more alert
I am going to take his blood in about 20 minutes
 
Denise......just my thoughts, but you can throw the SS and the old data out the window! You cannot base his dose on what he has done in the past---it is a new game.
 
dmartini4 said:
unfortuantley i work about 45 min to one hour away so imposible to make it back here and go back
I am just afraid that he was so insulin sensitive from lat night to today and now tonight
its crazy! but he is cleaning himself now and looking more alert
I am going to take his blood in about 20 minutes
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I bet he's wondering what you're all excited about. :lol: What was that thing Kim said earlier..something about better high for one day? But, I really know nothing and am a chicken anyway.
 
I think you are right Kim! he is not keeping to his old routine, doesnt that figure!
just when I start figuring this boy out, he pulls this ****!
I am trying to breathe Sue, but I just want to go hold himand cry right now
Iw ill be back in 15 min..
 
It is upsetting and unsettling, but Barbara is right. Shakes doesn't get that anything happened. And you did a great job! You survived your first and second near hypo!

Remember back to those days when he was stuck and not moving anyplace and how frustrated you were. He's not there anymore. :mrgreen: This is a GOOD thing!
 
very true Sue! great point...
ok I took his blood early, couldnt wait
he is at 63, and ya know I was thinking at his +4 when he was 75 I gave his some 8%carb food
and one hour later he was 36...just thinking but if I did not give that to him afraid of what might have
happened....
ugg.. so once again I am thanking you all for staying with me and helping us through this!
please, I am sure I can handle things from here now, dont worry about us, I will take his blood in
about an hour and keep checking ...I will see what his number is in the moring and go from there.
thanks for all the great advice and support!
you are the best!!

Densie and Shakes
 
Looks like he is holding steady right now, which is good! If I am not mistaken, this should be at around +6.5, right? I'd probably feed another dollop of higher carb wet food and get another reading in an hour.

When I do this dance with Oscar, I know the higher carb wet food will bump him up the next hour, so now that I know his particular patterns, I usually test every 2 hours, because that second hour really tells me if that higher carb food is going to hold or not. Tonight is a learning experience for you - get to know his patterns of responding to higher carb foods when his glucose is in this range. No one likes the nerve wracking of dealing with lower numbers, but this is the flip side of going for tight regulation with OTJ in your sights.
 
Good job Denise...you know what to do if he would happen to start falling again..but I doubt that would happen. You might already do this but I write on the can what carb % it is so I can grab it quick if I need it. I keep that separate from the other food...in a cabinet close by and near the karo on the counter. Someone here gave me that idea. He is trying to see how fast you can dance lately isn't he! dancing_cat
 
Oh wow, big day!!! I read your other thread 1st and missed this one, so have already posted there. Looks like you did a great job & got some great help! Pat yourself on the back, and you've earned a big drink drinking09 and some chocolate!!!!

A lot of times there is sort of an all or nothing factor it seems like with PZI. I don't know if the other insulins see this, but it seems pretty common from what I have seen here. I attribute a lot of it to temporary insulin resistance - they seem to just kind of stick in higher #s until they get a breakthrough. Vetsulin was different b/c it just punched right through the numbers, but PZI seems a little more dainty.

Anyhow, good job getting through a scary day!
 
ok his +7 is 132, I guess the high carb dry food wasnt the best idea,
but I am comfortable going to sleep now..
now I know what the dry high carb can do! wow
I have the 11% wet food I am going to give him tomorrow morning
I stopped giving it to him but I think he needs it now.
and I will shoot the 2.5 with 11% I thinkI am confortable with

thanks again everyone and I will talk to you all tomorrow!

Denise and Shakes
 
The High carb food was a good idea at 37--don't worry about what he is at now. You had to stop the drop.
 
Oh yeah, you had to give the HC, don't criticize yourself on that one! You learn, like you are now, how much to give to get enough of a rise without going high. I once sent Bix into the 300s with HC, but that's how you learn. Better to go that way than not to treat a possible hypo.

I don't know that I would stay with the 11%, though I think it's fine for tomorrow. Do you think these lower numbers are connected to a change to lower carb food? I'm not sure what the sequence is, but if he was on slightly higher carb before and you've dropped it, that could account for not needing as much insulin. I would want to go with lower carb and lower dose, but for tomorrow do what you need to to keep him safe and not be worried all day!!!
 
Great job Denise! Sounds like a good plan to give the 11% carb food and reduce his dose tomorrow.
What a nerve wracking night for you!
 
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