Samwise AMPS & PMPS 6/1 +6

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sueandsamwise

sueandsamwise

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AMPS 481 1U
I told the DH to try and get a +3 but I don't know if he'll remember. I'll call him though. He always gets the +6.

Sam tried to bite me this morning and growled a LOT! :cry: Also, first thing I did was inject some inuslin right back into the vial. Do you think I just ruined it? I was in tears until I read the paper that comes with it and it says to inject air into the vial.

+6 59 :mrgreen:

PMPS 177 1U
 
Just stopping by to say Good Luck!!

We miss you in PZI land already!

Kim
 
Hi Sue and Sam!

I head that you guys had switched and wanted to drop by and wish you luck! We went to Levemir, but it's similar in action to Lantus and I can totally relate to feeling overwhelmed on the first day when everything you knew with PZI is different now. Please go easy on yourself, it's only the first day, and you have good people here to help you out.

(((((Hugs to you))))) to you & GD/GN to Sam! I saw his pic on PZI last night and he is such an handsome boy!!

Purrs and rubs from Harley to big fluffy Sam.

Laura
 
Good morning, Sue! I know it's a big change, but you will do fine. :smile:

Here's the link to yesterday's condo...we link them so people can easily go back and see what happened previously.

Injecting air into the vial is fine, but you want to avoid injecting insulin back into it. Don't panic, what's done is done! Your insulin may poop out sooner, but there is no reason to do anything about it right now. Just use it until you see signs that it is losing potency.

Did he growl and try to bite after you shot? Lantus does sting from what I've read, it's acidic. Mr Tinkles reacts sometimes. You might want to give him a treat after you shoot...that helps me with Tinkles.
 
There's not a problem with injecting air into a vial. If you are using the Solostar pen, you shouldn't inject air back into the pen. (The pen is in a pressurized container so you don't want to put air back into it.)

Just a housekeeping note. If you look at the Board, there's a format for subject lines so we can easily see if you may need a hand. The format is:

today's date cat's name AMPS# +hr-#, etc.​
6/1 Samwise AMPS-481​
We keep the subject line updated as we test.
 
Just stopping by to say "hi"!

When we first started this journey, we didn't know not to shoot insulin back into the vial, either. The vial still lasted almost 2 months - and it may have even still been good at that point, but we switched it out just to stay ahead of the game. I'm sure your vial will be fine, now that you know injecting insulin back in isn't a good practice.

Welcome to LantusLand!

Amy
 
I did give him a treat afterwards, he was quite disgusted with me though. Poor guy. The minute I pushed the plunger back into the vial I knew I did something wrong. I hope it lasts awhile for me. I'll just try to be optimistic.
 
i've done the same thing - makes you want to cry when you're looking at this $100 bottle and you don't know if you've just wrecked it. within the first couple of weeks of giving shots i left it out overnight, too, and ended up getting a new one. with the fluid going back in, i've just keep using them til it seems like they're losing potency. you'll know when that happens.

in the meantime, you can't undo it so don't fret!

punkin gave me grief with the shots for several weeks. at the beginning i tried shooting him while he was eating and he was still mad - then i tried putting him on the kitchen counter and my husband held him down. i tried burrito-ing him but you can't really get to anything when you've got them bundled up.

finally the technique that's worked for us - first i got a headlamp at REI so there was no more time spent trying to make sure of what i was seeing (his hair nearest the skin and his skin are the same color), i put the food down in a spot where i have him boxed in.

the food bowl is in front of him (and he really wants to eat), his side is against a wall, tail against a hutch, and i'm on the outside. i have the syringe ready and in my hand and the moment i put the food bowl down, i get going on the shot. that's been our best bet so far and he's stopped reacting much. i did think it stung at first, and it might still, but now he doesn't do much. if he weren't boxed in, though, it would be a problem. he does always try to move, it's just that he can't go anywhere without pulling his face out of his food and he wants to eat. sometimes he pauses and tries to move and i just try to keep the needle hanging in him. :lol: :lol:
 
Sammy is usually pretty good about staying on the counter. He just tends to be very vocal about the whole thing. He never used to either. If I get him poked right off the bat, he's better but I had 4 tries this morning. Very bummer. He is okay about it all afterwards, thank goodness. He gets food and treats right away too.

Thanks everyone for the greetings today. It helps when you do something stupid. :lol:
 
Hi and Welcome to LL....sounds like you are doing well....there is a lot to learn, but there are always people around to help.. Good luck! And keep asking questions.....
 
Also, first thing I did was inject some inuslin right back into the vial. Do you think I just ruined it? I was in tears until I read the paper that comes with it and it says to inject air into the vial.
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please, don't worry about it!
when i started alex on lantus back in 2006, we did not have 3,478,832 rules about lantus. many of us squirted insulin or shot air back into the vial on a regular basis. we've since learned that it's not ideal to do so, but you know what? back then, many of us were able to use our vials for months on end!
good luck with the switch to lantus! i think you'll like it...
 
Don't worry about it Sue! You will do things wrong and you just learn from them... trust me!! Can't wait to see a picture of Samwise! Where did you get his name from?
 
I just stopped by to say "Welcome to Lantus Land!"

Nice response for the first day. Do you think it would be possible to get your mid-day test at different times of the day sometimes (not just at +6)? Lantus nadirs can be hard to pin down, it really could be anywhere between +4 and +12, so getting different tests can help narrow it down. Also, grabbing a before bed test every night can be extremely helpful - his night cycles may not match the day ones (usually they don't).

Just a note, because Lantus has a shed, often cats will get lower numbers after 4-6 cycles. You'll want to be sure to keep testing over the next few days in case he goes even lower than 59. He might... On the other hand, we do often see cats who come from other insulins have a really great response the first day, then they don't get back to those numbers again until they get a dose increase. There's no way to know which category Sam will fit into other than to test, so be prepared for either scenario.

I'm glad you made the switch!
 
Sam's name is from the Lord of the Rings books. He was Frodo Baggins' faithful friend. Always there and always looking after Mr. Baggins. He has a sister named Baggins who just wishes they would all go away. Should have named her Smeagol.

I will try to get in more tests. My DH was gone most of the afternoon and outside most of the morning so he didn't get as many tests as I wanted. Plus, Sam would not bleed.
 
sueandsamwise said:
He has a sister named Baggins who just wishes they would all go away. Should have named her Smeagol.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

those were my fav books when i was in high school - i read that series every year for about 10 years. baggins must be a little pain in the patootie! ;-)
 
Me too. I must have read those books 20 times. I'd go to the Middle Earth in a shot if it was real. My favorite alternate world.
Baggy is a pain I"m just glad it's not her that's diabetic.That would be a disaster!@ :shock:
 
HI Sue and Samwise,
Welcome to Lantus Land. After PZI, Lantus is a bit more rigorous with regard to schedule, but it is worth it. My GA kitty, Stu, was on PZI Vet (shooting blind!) for 4 years and was switched to Lantus when PZI Vet was discontinued. After I learned how to use Lantus it gave really good results (the vet had Stu on too large a dose at first, and then I found this group and learned what to do).
So, as everyone has said, the key to Lantus is patience.
Good luck with Lantus! You will find tons of support and good advice here.
Ella & Rusty
 
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