RESOLVED 8/07 Tableau

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It's +4.5 since his first shot of Lantus and he's at +4.5. I don't even have a hypo kit started...what should I do?
 
Re: HElp! Tableau BG is 24

if you have any karo or honey use a syringe and rub a mil. on his gums wait 15 minutes and test again.
 
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I don't have anything like that in the house. I have sugar. Can I make a syrup and give him that?
 
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How about ice cream, honey, syrup of any kind? If you don't then you can mix sugar and water.

RUB what you have on his gums and retest in 15 mintues.
 
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Emily, hows it going? I'm sure you are paying close attention to Tableau. Make sure you are watching for hypo symptoms (loud meowing, hiding, glassy eyes, staggering etc). If you see any of those keep rubbing the sugar on the gums and get to the ER. Don't panic, just keep a close watch. As the kitties numbers start to rise, you are going to want to get some high carb food in him. The sugar will make his BG come up quickly but won't keep him up. so once you get him above 50 or so, start with the high carb, wet or dry.
 
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OK. I ran to the store and got some Karo and honey. Gave him 1 ml of Karo. Will retest in a few minutes. He seems fine. But he's always tired and sleeping of late. He's been eating more the last few hours. No staggering. No glassy eyes. Nothing like that yet.

He had his shot of lantus about 5 hours ago. How long does it take for it to bottom out? This is his first dose ever of Lantus.

Thanks.
 
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I didn't put the sugar on his gums, I used a syringe and put it in his mouth. He's just curled up in his usual spot, resting.
 
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Emily - most cats hit their nadir (low point) around 4 to 6 hours after the shot, but every cat is different. You will find out where Tableaus usual nadir is over time as you build his data through testing. What is he doing now, and how are you?
 
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I guess I cross posted with you. They recommend rubbing the syrup on the gums when a cat is low (below 50) so that it case it starts convulsions it won't have problems with choking. Doesn't sound like that was a problem tonight, just something to remember if he ever goes this low again.
 
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OK well I just tested him again and got 297, so I wonder if the 24 was a faulty reading. Yikes. At least now I have Karo and honey in the house, but I sure am leary of giving him another dose at 8 in the morning, when I have to go to work.

Thank you so much for your help, Marjorie, you calmed me down alot and appreciate all your info and talking us through this. So sorry for the false alarm (but glad he's, apparently, fine).

Thank You!
EMily
 
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Hey Emily, no problem. Others have been there for us, and I know seeing a 20something on the meter is a holy crap moment. This is Mike by the way, Marjories husband. Marjorie has to work tomorrow and had to turn in early. I'm up with our Gracie, as she is in the 70's and not trustworthy :-D . I would recommend you do one more test before you go to bed, just to make sure 100% you know what Tableaus' number is.
 
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Thanks, Mike, sorry for the name snafu. Yes, holy crap moment is right! I will do one more test in about 10 minutes, and if all is well, we will call it a night. Hope Gracie is staying where she needs to be and you can go off to bed soon!

Thank you thank you thank you! I really do appreciate the help!

Emily and Tableau
 
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Ok, we took one last reading and Tableau's definitely on his way back up at 339...Guess we will try again tomorrow! Just curious - do you think it was an bad reading - the 24 - or do you think the karo really could have caused his BG to go up to 297 in a matter of minutes? I just think that's too high, too fast, for it to have been the karo, but maybe not.

Anyway. Thanks again. Hope you and Gracie can go to bed soon.

Cheers,
Emily and Tableau
 
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I'm pretty sure the 24 was a bad reading. The karo will make their BG come up pretty quick, but usually 20-40 points, not 270. You did give just 1 mil right?
 
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YEs, I just gave 1 ml. Ok. I think it was a bad reading too. That seemed crazy. Next time I will check twice, before panicing!

Thanks!
 
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Time to get a HYPO KIT :razz:


glad kitty is ok! and glad somebody had testing duties this late! :arrow: Gracie's dad!
you did good by cross-posting in health too overnite.
when in doubt, re-test, cross post, and stay calm (thats the hard part)
 
Re: HElp! Tableau BG is 24

You did a great job of handling this situation. I'm sure the panic attack didn't help!

I wouldn't necessarily assume this was a faulty reading, though. You don't have info in this thread as to where the numbers were in the hours preceding this test. When numbers start to go up after a low, they can rise quickly -- even more so if there's Karo (sugar) behind them.

This is a good example of why a spreadsheet is helpful -- it gives context to the number of the moment -- and why you need to have both Karo/honey, etc. and gravy=based high carb food in the house. (FWIW, you could have changed the subject line in your existing thread (we call them condos) so your numbers from earlier in the day were there. To change the subject line, go to the first post in the thread, click on the "edit" button at the top, change the subject line then click on "submit." We try to open only one condo per cat per day so all if the info is in one spot.)
 
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Congratulations on getting Tableau back on track! I know it's scary having to go through it, but you did very, very well. :) That's 3 points higher than when Blackie went hypo on me a year ago last June. Wishing you both to have great #s' today. No more plummeting ok, Tableau? Time to surf now. :)
 
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Wow what a scary night for you!! You handled it great. Kudos to Mike for sitting up with you!!! :thumbup

Welcome to Lantus Land! Nothing like baptism by fire huh? :lol:

Hope you have a great day!
 
Re: HElp! Tableau BG is 24

Hi guys .. boy I know the panic you felt when you saw that 24! Mocha threw us that once as well (and it was NOT a faulty reading) You did a great job of handling it and I'm glad Mike was here to help you out ...
 
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Hey! 24 is a scary number--I am glad it was a meter error--Now you have the beginning of your hypo kit, so go out later & stock up on strips, medium carb food & high carb food..You already have a meter--
Good that you ran out & got what was needed & you responded well--Glad it was easily remedied--
Good work!
 
Re: HElp! Tableau BG is 24

Morning Emily:

Marje here...now Mike is sleeping...we swap out :lol: :lol:

When Mike came to bed last night and said it might have been a faulty reading, I asked him if he had you retest. I think it shocked him, too, to see someone post a 24 in the middle of the night ;-) Sienne is right, numbers can skyrocket esp if the liver panics so if I get an unexpected number, I always retest. Breathe, retest. If Gracie is in the 40s and I get a 24 (rare but has happened), I figure it's accurate but if she's in the 200s, probably not....even she does not dive that quickly.

I think the other thing to consider is that was Tableau's first shot, I believe. I never say never when it comes to cats and FD, but I would think his shed is not even established enough to do that....but again, never say never.

Two other quick points I'd like to make:
1. if you retest and kitty is that low, please do not leave him. Sugar water would have worked until you got him up enough to safely get stuff. Of course, better yet is as Ronnie said, you need a hypo kit and it's something everyone should have in the house before the first shot.

2. always get a +2. You may have...I don't know but if you didn't, you always should. I know you are going to have a schedule that makes it hard in the mornings so you might have to do with a +1 but whenever you are home, make it a standard practice to get a +2. There is so much info in that one little number especially as you get to know your cat. If the +2 is not fairly similar to the PS number, then you might expect some action.

I'm glad he is safe and I hope your heart settled down so you could sleep. The first low number is always scary....hmmmm..I'm not sure that changes :lol: :lol: :lol: You just learn to breathe and deal with it.

Have a great day....BTW, please take the "HELP" out of your subject line. As soon as somone jumps in to help you and you have your kitty stable or are waiting for the next test, it's good to remove the "Help"; otherwise, people come on and figure it's a dire situation....and it was already resolved this morning.

Great job....hang in there!!
 
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