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My vet offers the 3 year vaccine,think im going to another vet to get her the 1 year Merial purevax vaccine,Should I not shoot her with insulin that day before I go or should I keep my reg schedule? Not sure if one another interacts?? thank you
 
racn1320 said:
My vet offers the 3 year vaccine,think im going to another vet to get her the 1 year Merial purevax vaccine,Should I not shoot her with insulin that day before I go or should I keep my reg schedule? Not sure if one another interacts?? thank you
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the 3 year vaccine is basically the same as a 1 year...
not sure about the insulin ... maybe the wise ones can help....
 
There is also a 3-year version of the Purevax vaccine now. I don't have any firsthand experience (yet), but I've seen people online mention that while it is more expensive than your typical rabies vaccine, it works out to be about the same as getting a yearly vaccine for each of those three years. So that may be something to look into - apparently not all vets offer it due to the increased cost, but you might be able to find one that does.

I'm also unsure about the insulin. Hopefully someone will be able to offer some advice on that.
 
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From what I've read, the risk of injection site sarcoma is mostly related to adjuvanted vs. non-adjuvanted vaccines, though frequency of administration is also a factor. The 3-year Purevax is non-adjuvanted and is going to be my first choice when it comes time for the next round of rabies vaccines as it couples the safer, non-adjuvanted type of vaccine with less frequent administration. If the 3-year Purevax is not available, I'd rather go with the 1-year Purevax, as opposed to the traditional 3-year vaccine, which is adjuvanted.

Adjuvanted vaccines cause inflammation at the injection site, which is associated with development of sarcomas. Other injections, even the non-adjuvanted vaccines, can cause inflammation as well, but are supposed to be less likely to. So, giving what's considered to be a safer injection as infrequently as possible is the way I'm going to go.

More information on Dr. Pierson's site: http://catinfo.org/?link=vaccines#Rabies
 
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The three-year Purevax is harder on cats that the one-year Purevax. Thus, the cat may be lethargic for a day or so after the three-year Purevax. That was the case for my covo Cookie. Badger and Patches were fine.
If you ask your vet for the three-year Purevax before the appointment they maybe able to obtain it. One vet practice I use now stocks it and offers it. However, for the other vet practice you have to ask beforehand so they can get it.
The three-year Purevax initially failed its qualification testing because not enough cats injected with the rabies virus that were unvaccinated did not contract rabies.
 
racn1320 said:
Its less chance for a sarcoma from what I understand with the 1 year?
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This is a hot topic in the forum--Each vet will have a different standard for a vaccine waiver/exemption. Many holistic vets consider FD a reason to not vaccinate a indoor diabetic cat. It is a personal decision but there are some safer than others....
 
Called another local vet,they have but will not give it to her without her entire record in front of them,she wasnt the nicest about it. Not going there. I did find another vet that said they have a 1 year pure vax non adjuvant,said they will give it to her with exam. ASked if it would affect her regular insulin shots and said no,do what you normally do, Hope that is correct ha. Sound good?? Just being a nervous nellie about this.
 
racn1320 said:
ASked if it would affect her regular insulin shots and said no,do what you normally do,
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I imagine that would be fine UNLESS your cat loses her appetite after the vaccination. In which case reducing the shot accordingly might be the way to go. But that may well not be an issue for you at all. I would definitely go with the 1 year Purevax over a regular vaccine - you 100% want a non-adjuvanted vaccine for her.
 
I made the appt! I give her the insulin shot at 930am,usually kicks in 6-8 hrs,I made the appt for 3pm,would this interfere at all? They said I should wait 4-6 hrs after insulin shot?
 
racn1320 said:
I made the appt! I give her the insulin shot at 930am,usually kicks in 6-8 hrs,I made the appt for 3pm,would this interfere at all? They said I should wait 4-6 hrs after insulin shot?
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Sounds fine to me. I'd test her right before you leave for the appointment just to make sure she isn't dropping low, but as long as her numbers are good at that point I can't imagine the shot interfering much that far through the cycle.
 
My vet usually gives the shot between the shoulder blades,do you think the new vet will do the same? I heard in the leg is better?
 
racn1320 said:
My vet usually gives the shot between the shoulder blades,do you think the new vet will do the same? I heard in the leg is better?
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No vaccine should be given between the shoulder blades any more - they should all be given as low down in the leg as possible. Please make sure that your vet does this - it is the newer guideline for vaccinations.
 
Carol & Murphy said:
a double or triple negative in this sentence, but are you saying they had difficulty establishing efficacy?
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It sounds to me as though the control group failed - the vaccine might have worked perfectly, but if not enough unvaccinated cats contracted rabies after being deliberately infected with it, I guess that would negate the study too.
 
manxcat419 said:
No vaccine should be given between the shoulder blades any more - they should all be given as low down in the leg as possible. Please make sure that your vet does this - it is the newer guideline for vaccinations.
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Wow my vet has been doing this since she was a kitten,good to know tho and thank you. Ill make sure they give her shot in leg on monday at temp vet. Maybe thats why she has a sarcoma in the first place???
 
racn1320 said:
Maybe thats why she has a sarcoma in the first place???
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Sadly, that is quite likely. Vaccination site sarcoma is a known side effect of vaccinations in cats - hence the newer guidelines to give the vaccine as low down in the leg as is possible...it's still not ideal of course, but that way if the cat does develop sarcoma, they can remove it completely by amputating the affected leg.
 
Ive been reading some side effects online for rabies shots with purevax merial,Do all rabies shots have side effects or just purevax? Remeber she has diabetus and I just want her to be ok. Ive usualy done the 3 year shot. Going in tomorrow.
 
Because PureVax is a recombinant vaccine - they use CanaryPox to create a vaccine that provides immunity against rabies without the risk of the cat actually contracting rabies (which could happen with a standard live vaccine), some cats do develop fever for a day or two after being vaccinated. The risk of side effects from PureVax appears to be lower than the risk of sarcoma from an adjuvanted vaccine. PureVax doesn't have to be adjuvanted as it isn't a modified live vaccine. Overall, PureVax is the vaccine that Dr Lisa Pierson, among others, feels is the safest option for all cats.
 
I should add - my 2 cats were given Rabisin (also by Merial, but an adjuvanted vaccine) by my vet in the UK before I brought them to the US. Neither had an obvious reaction to that one either, but had I known then what I know now, I would have requested a vaccine without adjuvants.
 
I was just thinking with changing over to purevax I know she hasnt had any side effects from the 3 yr rabies shot and wasnt sure if she would from purevax? Just being nervous i guess
 
I know exactly what you mean - it's always a bit of an unknown the first time they get a different vaccination and with diabetes in the mix, that's always worrying. But if she hasn't had any side effects from the regular 3 year shot, I'd imagine she should be fine with the PureVax too. I know side effects can happen with any vaccine - maybe I've just been lucky but I haven't noticed any ill effects with our cats.
 
Larry and Kitties said:
Just for clarification, all rabies vaccines are either killed or in the case of PureVax, recombinant
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This is true now, but MLV used to be the standard form of rabies vaccine until there was an incident where it returned to virulence. MLV is still commonly used for some other vaccines.
 
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