Question about remission?
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Carl & Polly & Bob (GA)
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No. The odds might be lower, but never think "never". I'm one of the luckier ones (10 weeks), but I know others will share "long time" stories as soon as they see this, Kaly.
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julie & punkin (ga)
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absolutely not - we just had a cat, Mr Tinkles, following the Rand/Roomp protocol that is called Tight Regulation here, go off of insulin after 21 months. yes, it happens. i've seen it on more than one cat. at 3 months i think people are still mostly still figuring out how Lantus works - at least i was.
in fact, in the Rand/Roomp protocol the measurement wasn't at 3 months, the study was for 6 months.
in fact, in the Rand/Roomp protocol the measurement wasn't at 3 months, the study was for 6 months.
kalyv
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Thanks for the feedback Carl and Julie.
If my Lucy never gets into remission, that is fine with me so long as she is healthy and happy. But it is good to manage one's expectations.
And Julie, I am definitely still trying to figure out how the Lantus is working with my bouncer. It was suggested to me on the relaxed lantus board that I might take her back down to 1 unit and work her up in case we missed her ideal dose by starting her at 2 units. I started that last night but then realized I will be out of town for a few days next week and while I have someone to give her shots, they won't be monitoring her as closely as I would. So I think I will keep her at the 2 units until I get back and then give it a go.
Anyway, thanks as always for all the great info.
I read that study and it actually seems like that is the study that my own vet is following going by the advice he gave me, especially his insistence on the DM canned food.
Anyhow, thanks again.
If my Lucy never gets into remission, that is fine with me so long as she is healthy and happy. But it is good to manage one's expectations.
And Julie, I am definitely still trying to figure out how the Lantus is working with my bouncer. It was suggested to me on the relaxed lantus board that I might take her back down to 1 unit and work her up in case we missed her ideal dose by starting her at 2 units. I started that last night but then realized I will be out of town for a few days next week and while I have someone to give her shots, they won't be monitoring her as closely as I would. So I think I will keep her at the 2 units until I get back and then give it a go.
Anyway, thanks as always for all the great info.
I read that study and it actually seems like that is the study that my own vet is following going by the advice he gave me, especially his insistence on the DM canned food.
Anyhow, thanks again.
julie & punkin (ga)
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i would consider lucy still very new at this! and i would absolutely not give up hope. however, you do have the best chance at getting her off if you follow the tight regulation protocol. and despite it's terrible name that seems to be scaring people no end, it is very doable - many, many of us follow it. it doesn't require a zillion tests despite people seeming to think it does. some of us have become addicted to the information from testing and test a lot - but no one has to.
when you get back if you want some help on this, just post and we'll give you a hand. i've been on since the end of february and i counted at least 40 cats now that i've seen go off of insulin, and that doesn't count the cats who go on for just a couple of weeks or so, and go off immediately. those are all cats that are here long enough - at least a couple of months - to really get tracked.
have a great trip!
when you get back if you want some help on this, just post and we'll give you a hand. i've been on since the end of february and i counted at least 40 cats now that i've seen go off of insulin, and that doesn't count the cats who go on for just a couple of weeks or so, and go off immediately. those are all cats that are here long enough - at least a couple of months - to really get tracked.
have a great trip!
doombuggy
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My Cedric went off insulin after a month; the vet's thought it could take up to a year. I think the combination of change in diet, serving 4 small meals a day instead of 2 larger ones, some exercise (we had just moved into the townhouse i bought a week prior to his dx) and the lantus brought this about - on top of the fact that I think we caught it early on.
You mentioned going away - is the person givng the insulin for you going to test first?
You mentioned going away - is the person givng the insulin for you going to test first?
PeterDevonMocha
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Hi guys .. just thought I would pop in and say that mocha was on insulin (lantus) for 22 months and is now officially OTJ! She just celebrated 10 months off the juice, so never say never, right? 
Julia & Bandit (GA)
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Absolutely not--it took Bandit a year to get to remission. It varies from cat to cat how long it takes for them to regulate and for the pancreas to start healing.
Some cats may never reach remission--but that's not a horrible thing. A regulated cat can be just as happy and healthy as a cat in remission. So the goal you should be really aiming right now is regulation (which is the first step to remission anyway). I was driving myself crazy with Bandit until I slowed down and decided to take it step by step, instead of shooting for the moon from the get go.
Some cats may never reach remission--but that's not a horrible thing. A regulated cat can be just as happy and healthy as a cat in remission. So the goal you should be really aiming right now is regulation (which is the first step to remission anyway). I was driving myself crazy with Bandit until I slowed down and decided to take it step by step, instead of shooting for the moon from the get go.
If you're going to be traveling, will someone be able to test? If not, then it may be wiser to reduce the dose right before you leave vs. when you return. You're already seeing some lower numbers. I reduce my cat's dose when I travel because I have a petsitter coming in twice a day. There is no testing going on -- Gabby is a diva and won't let anyone except me test. Lowering the dose while I'm gone means less worry about numbers dropping too low.
kalyv
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Thanks for the encouragement everyone. I love hearing all your success stories.
I will certainly keep hoping for remission, but as I said, I just want her to feel good, which she seems to be for the most part.
Actually another cat-sitter just fell through so I will probably be boarding her at the vet's. But I doubt they will test her before each shot unless I ask and they will probably charge me another arm and a leg to do it, so I doubt I can afford it.
She is suddenly being finicky with her food and my work sked this week was very erratic again so I reduced her 2 units but she appears to be in mid-bounce right now so I don't know what the lower dose is really doing for her. I will see how she does with the 2 units over the next week. I don't leave until Saturday and am back wednesday night.
I will certainly keep hoping for remission, but as I said, I just want her to feel good, which she seems to be for the most part.
Actually another cat-sitter just fell through so I will probably be boarding her at the vet's. But I doubt they will test her before each shot unless I ask and they will probably charge me another arm and a leg to do it, so I doubt I can afford it.
She is suddenly being finicky with her food and my work sked this week was very erratic again so I reduced her 2 units but she appears to be in mid-bounce right now so I don't know what the lower dose is really doing for her. I will see how she does with the 2 units over the next week. I don't leave until Saturday and am back wednesday night.
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