Phosphorus Binder

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April & Quincy

April & Quincy

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Hi. My sweet Quincy is in stage 2 CKD. The vet said it's early stages and not to be too worked up about it but I don't want it to get worse for him. I have read about phosphorus binders on here and am wondering if this is a prescription I would need to get from the vet or if it's something I could buy from say, Amazon, and sprinkle on his food? Thanks everyone.
 
tiffmaxee said:
You don’t need an RX for aluminum hydroxide powder. Even Amazon sells it. You don’t want to add it unless the phosphorus is over 5.0. Do you have the labs?
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Great, thanks! This is exactly what I was wondering. I will get the labs and find out!
 
April & Quincy said:
Hi. My sweet Quincy is in stage 2 CKD. The vet said it's early stages and not to be too worked up about it but I don't want it to get worse for him. I have read about phosphorus binders on here and am wondering if this is a prescription I would need to get from the vet or if it's something I could buy from say, Amazon, and sprinkle on his food? Thanks everyone.
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Before adding a phos binder, try switching to a lower phosphorus food. Ff is high in phosphorus. Weruva makes a lot of low carb/low phosphorus foods.
 
JanetNJ said:
Before adding a phos binder, try switching to a lower phosphorus food. Ff is high in phosphorus. Weruva makes a lot of low carb/low phosphorus foods.
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Yes, I've thought about it but he is very picky so I'm not sure he would like it and I don't want to buy a bunch from Amazon and then he doesn't eat it.
 
If you look on tanyas crf list under what to feed and try to find a food around 1% phosphorus that she might like it would be a good place to start. If you live anywhere near a petco they carry Weruva. My cats didn’t like it either though. You could get individual cans to try.
 
tiffmaxee said:
If you look on tanyas crf list under what to feed and try to find a food around 1% phosphorus that she might like it would be a good place to start. If you live anywhere near a petco they carry Weruva. My cats didn’t like it either though. You could get individual cans to try.
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Is there a reason why the low phosphorus food is recommended over the phosphorus binder? Or is that just to see if the low phosphorus food helps first?
 
These are the ones cc ate Weruva slide and serve pate foods Family Food (.97 phosphorus and 0 carb).

Jeopurrdy Chicken (0.97 P 6.1 carb)

What a Crock 0.71 phosphorus and 8 carb lots of gravy so she loved it.

Goody stew shoes 0.71 phosphorus, 8.5 carb. This one was a big hit

Weruva Steak Frites (0.57 phosphorus 5.5 carb although I take out any big pieces of potatoes to try to limit the carbs just a bit)

Weruva LA isla Bonita - phosphorus 0.77 carb 4.5 (used to like, not a favorite anymore)

Glam and punk 1% carb, 0.93 phosphorous.

Weruva paw lickin chicken 3.3 carb 0.82 p

Press your lunch 5.9 carb. 0.82 phosphorous

Bff play Laugh Out Loud chicken and lamb 7.7 carb, 0.82 phosphorous

BFF play destiny (chicken and duck) 0.87 phosphorus 7.7 carb

Bff play chicken cherish 0.71 phosphorus 7.6 carb

Bff play best buds chicken and beef 7.9 carb 0.9 phosphorus

Bff play chicken Checkmate. 7.7 carb 0.7 phos

On the Cat Wok 3.8 carb 0.74 phos
 
JanetNJ said:
These are the ones cc ate Weruva slide and serve pate foods Family Food (.97 phosphorus and 0 carb).

Jeopurrdy Chicken (0.97 P 6.1 carb)

What a Crock 0.71 phosphorus and 8 carb lots of gravy so she loved it.

Goody stew shoes 0.71 phosphorus, 8.5 carb. This one was a big hit

Weruva Steak Frites (0.57 phosphorus 5.5 carb although I take out any big pieces of potatoes to try to limit the carbs just a bit)

Weruva LA isla Bonita - phosphorus 0.77 carb 4.5 (used to like, not a favorite anymore)

Glam and punk 1% carb, 0.93 phosphorous.

Weruva paw lickin chicken 3.3 carb 0.82 p

Press your lunch 5.9 carb. 0.82 phosphorous

Bff play Laugh Out Loud chicken and lamb 7.7 carb, 0.82 phosphorous

BFF play destiny (chicken and duck) 0.87 phosphorus 7.7 carb

Bff play chicken cherish 0.71 phosphorus 7.6 carb

Bff play best buds chicken and beef 7.9 carb 0.9 phosphorus

Bff play chicken Checkmate. 7.7 carb 0.7 phos

On the Cat Wok 3.8 carb 0.74 phos
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He only likes pate so this will definitely be interesting. I'll have to see where the closest pet store is. I asked this earlier, but is there a reason low phosphorus food is recommended over the phosphorus binder?
 
April & Quincy said:
He only likes pate so this will definitely be interesting. I'll have to see where the closest pet store is. I asked this earlier, but is there a reason low phosphorus food is recommended over the phosphorus binder?
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Aluminum hydroxide is known to cause constipation so many users find they need to start giving Miralax as well... And there's a chance of developing aluminum toxicity. (Very rare) It can also interfere with the absorption of iron.

If your cat is really picky and the levels are up than that's the way to go. There is a good Facebook group for ckd cats called Cats with Chronic Renal Failure.
 
JanetNJ said:
Aluminum hydroxide is known to cause constipation so many users find they need to start giving Miralax as well... And there's a chance of developing aluminum toxicity. (Very rare) It can also interfere with the absorption of iron.

If your cat is really picky and the levels are up than that's the way to go. There is a good Facebook group for ckd cats called Cats with Chronic Renal Failure.
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I don't have Facebook but I do have Tanya's CKD site saved! Okay, thanks for your answer. He already takes a probiotic for diarrhea so I wonder if the aluminum hydroxide would counter that. I'm not sure if his levels are high enough for a phosphorus binder, as tiffmaxee said, so I'll need to get his labs.
 
April & Quincy said:
I don't have Facebook but I do have Tanya's CKD site saved! Okay, thanks for your answer. He already takes a probiotic for diarrhea so I wonder if the aluminum hydroxide would counter that. I'm not sure if his levels are high enough for a phosphorus binder, as tiffmaxee said, so I'll need to get his labs.
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If you get the labs you can add to your ss and we can take a look. Nothing is benign, even AH so if not too high a lower phosphorus food would be best. At some point it will be needed but you dint want to start to soon. Some cats notice it in their food and it needs to be added to every meal.
 
tiffmaxee said:
If you get the labs you can add to your ss and we can take a look. Nothing is benign, even AH so if not too high a lower phosphorus food would be best. At some point it will be needed but you dint want to start to soon. Some cats notice it in their food and it needs to be added to every meal.
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Okay, thanks!
 
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