Olive & Paula
Member Since 2015
I agree with you. But we U.S. people have to fill a form declaring what's in it. I guess sender could lie. My understanding is that Sweden doesn't allow meds in from the US. I don't know if that's true.
Oreo Joe and Bonnie He will be taken away for animal abuse
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I agree with you. But we U.S. people have to fill a form declaring what's in it. I guess sender could lie. My understanding is that Sweden doesn't allow meds in from the US. I don't know if that's true.
Diana&Tom
Member Since 2009
Good! Her earlier message saying "over and out" implied that she wasn't hanging around but yes, I hope she stays and expands her knowledge for the benefit of all FD kitties in her practice.
Bonnie & Oreo Joe
Member Since 2017
I am starting a full vial of ProZinc today. I am again raising the dose ½ U every 5th shot. This is what I was told to do here before. Anybody say it is to fast? He was on 11½ and 1 shot 12U when it was stopped "because he was not diabetic and she would eat her words if he was". I have him to 6½ this AM. I wish I could just pop up to 10 and go from there. He was still running really high at 11½. I am pretty sure our new vet will order another insulin. If he has to I will ask for Levemir otherwise at the hospital I will ask for it. I am going to start the study on it as I know the dose will be changed. I hope I don't have to start from scratch again. Anyone know?? I hate him being so high. Thanks
Bonnie & Oreo Joe
Member Since 2017
No medications are allowed into Sweden that would be prescription here. Some non prescription also. Plus they open them to check that the price listed is for real and then tax about ½ of what the item cost. Say I ask you to send me something that is allowed. I send you 25 dollars to buy it. I then send you the postage you need probably 25 and up. 1 pound weight is over 30 last time. The the pkg is opened and I get to pay $12 for Swedish taxes because it was available here and I didn't have to order it from America. But the reason I ordered it was because I can't get it here!! lol
Bobbie And Bubba
Member Since 2015
Oh my! Nothing gets past them! And you are taxed too. Yikes! Well, so much for my idea of the supply closet.......
PussCatPrince - GA
Member Since 2017
I am so relieved that quality help has been found for you and oreo joe.
Maybe but it would and has happened here in NZ. Customs and also bio. It doesn't matter the declaration. They willopen and delay if they feel a need.
Veronica & Babu-chiri
Member Since 2016
I agree but for example here (Mexico) customs can open and will open any package that arrives, is totally legal there's no such thing as a private package and they will not allow the delivery if they determine is something you require a special permit to get, special permits take beteween 10 to 45 working days if you get it and you need to have it before 5 usually so you lose the goods and the money of the delivery, so I figure in Sweden must be like that.
Carol & Murphy (GA)
Member Since 2015
It happens all the time in all countries, Bobbie - it doesn't matter that it is from a private citizen -those are probably more likely to be inspected vs commercial shipments
If you do start Levemir, you don't have to go back to the beginning again. We do take the dose of the previous insulin into consideration. When the time gets closer, post in the Lantus/Levemir forum and we will help you with dosing the Lev.
Bonnie & Oreo Joe
Member Since 2017
Great. He is so high today I could cry. 355 had not eaten for 2 hours before test. 6½ U is like sprinkling water on his head and saying it will work just as good as insulin. So sad for Oreo Joe. I went through this for an extra month. I would like to think that within the month I was going down in insulin that had I been allowed to go up he would be at least in the yellow numbers.
The unfortunately thing about going down in dose is that their bodies get used to higher numbers as normal. Glucose toxicity can develop.
Bonnie & Oreo Joe
Member Since 2017
Thanks I am reading up on the link you sent. I want to walk into that hospital and at least know what the doctor is talking about. I also want to ask if she thinks he has hyperglycemia. He has been on low doses since mid august. I keep thinking that there of course was a mistake made and it is easier to PTS rather than try and fix it and get caught. I am getting a note book and writing down everything we talk about and I will have a page of my questions. I do hope this hospital is aggressive. Thank you!!
Oh No ketones. I went to check his box and there was a puddle on top of the litter. I don't catch it often but at least with these nasty red colors showing up it is good to know.
Olive & Paula
Member Since 2015
Bonnie you are doing great keeping it all together. Tomorrow you can increase so thats good. Can you get a blood ketone meter there? It shows up faster in the blood, you don't have to wait for Oreo to pee, you use it just like the glucose meter. Strips are very expensive though. You only get 10 strips in a box. But you can test every other day or so as long as it's low. Once the glucose is down you can just test when Oreo is sick of not acting right. I go for months not using it but right now because Olive isn't eating well and is off, I'm testing daily.
Bonnie & Oreo Joe
Member Since 2017
I might be able to buy one but this next hospital appointment will be way over 1000$ and then there won't even be money for the new insulin and new syringes. Not sure how that will work out. Maybe the pharmacy will let me pay slowly.
Olive & Paula
Member Since 2015
Well one thing at a time. At least your using the dip stiks. Would customs allow one to be sent?
Bonnie & Oreo Joe
Member Since 2017
yes but I won't have the money for it and postage is horrid. Also not sure there are test strips available. But we go to the hospital Oct 10th hopefully things will move along. Read my new post.
Olive & Paula
Member Since 2015
On man. If authorities do come, tell them you have an appointment but they can't see you until the 10th.
Remove her permission to view your spreadsheet. Or remove sharing if you have to. If you have everything documented, call one of those legal animal/pet firms someone mentioned.
Remove her permission to view your spreadsheet. Or remove sharing if you have to. If you have everything documented, call one of those legal animal/pet firms someone mentioned.
Olive & Paula
Member Since 2015
Noah & me (GA)
Member Since 2016
The other side of the story is that if Joe is taken away what would constitute "better or more appropriate treatment?"
You've probably already thought of this but keeping detailed notes on all this and getting all of Joe's previous medical records may help. Maybe even character references from past vets.
This may not be legal but if Ellen's emotions are swaying her judgement you should think about recording your conversations with her. If she has a history of poor decision making the College of Veterinarians may make this available to you. You may also be able to search for civil cases in which she is involved.
Does Ellen know you are a member of FDMB? She may have joined under a pseudonym so we all need to be careful about what we say and how our intent could be interpreted. This is why I prefer cats and dogs to the world of law.
Sometimes publicity does more harm than good but a good story in the media may help. A tearful photo, the devoted owner, a sad story are all part of the game. I don't use the word "game" lightly but having people on your side can't hurt. Find out first how a "foreign cat" and a U.S. citizen would play out. Having coffee with a reporter without giving away too many details couldn't hurt but be extremely careful with your words. That's all I've got.
Good luck Joe. 
You've probably already thought of this but keeping detailed notes on all this and getting all of Joe's previous medical records may help. Maybe even character references from past vets.
This may not be legal but if Ellen's emotions are swaying her judgement you should think about recording your conversations with her. If she has a history of poor decision making the College of Veterinarians may make this available to you. You may also be able to search for civil cases in which she is involved.
Does Ellen know you are a member of FDMB? She may have joined under a pseudonym so we all need to be careful about what we say and how our intent could be interpreted. This is why I prefer cats and dogs to the world of law.
Sometimes publicity does more harm than good but a good story in the media may help. A tearful photo, the devoted owner, a sad story are all part of the game. I don't use the word "game" lightly but having people on your side can't hurt. Find out first how a "foreign cat" and a U.S. citizen would play out. Having coffee with a reporter without giving away too many details couldn't hurt but be extremely careful with your words. That's all I've got.
Good luck Joe.
Jill & Alex (GA)
Member Since 2009
A friendly reminder to all...
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Just sayin'...
Most of the forums on the FDMB are public forums. One does not have to be a member to view discussions/remarks in these public forums. Anything posted in a public forum is viewable to anyone with Internet access at any time.
Edited to add: To access private forums on the FDMB, all one needs is a valid email address to register to become a member of the FDMB.
Just sayin'...
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Veronica & Babu-chiri
Member Since 2016
Bonnie I do think that you need to speak to a lawyer about all this so that they give you legal advice on how best to proceed, who to talk to what documents you need to have at hand, put together a file with any documents the vet Ellen and any previous vets may have given you, one never knows what can come in handy.
The video of how he's acting right now and his bed toys, etc, is a great idea because that way they can see he's fine and well taken care of, make sure you activate the date and time stamp on the camera so that they can see is how he's right now.
The video of how he's acting right now and his bed toys, etc, is a great idea because that way they can see he's fine and well taken care of, make sure you activate the date and time stamp on the camera so that they can see is how he's right now.
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