Opie and MPM

I was going to ask you if you are switching back to SLGS because of the dry food? Otherwise, what is your reduction point? If SLGS we know he has earned a reduction. Also, he was in the 60s so is it time for his reduction? The number 70 was thrown around at one point as I recall.
 
I see the rising numbers and that’s good, but really I hope you reduced him to 1.25 because well…. See above. There was the whole discussion of no MPM with any dry food. But I didn’t know what the resolution of that discussion was. So I’m in the dark.
 
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This can happen when they're breaking a bounce - it started yesterday AM cycle when he started heading down.


Stall, make sure he's rising and shoot.
The dose will depend on your decided reduction point. Did he earn a reduction last night?

As he gets used to lower numbers the PS will come down.

kept reduction point at 50
 
Thank you for that information. I am always loathe to give less insulin because I know it will not be enough and his BG will rise up high. It is a scary situation and I thank you for your support.
You’re welcome.

You and Opie had quite a night but you handled the numbers very well. As @Shelley & Jess said, he was clearing a bounce. Take a close look at the BGs from both cycles yesterday and you’ll see a very clear pattern of him dropping from AMPS yesterday. Classic bounce clearing although it can happen all in one cycle.

Before I get too far into the weeds here ;), if you need immediate help, you can change the title on the thread to something like “Opie Should I Shoot” or something that gets attention. Be sure and also put up the “?” Prefix but as soon as you get help, take that off and change your title back. The last housekeeping thing is we really like members in Main Health and all insulin forums, except Lantus/Levemir, to start a new thread when the posts get to 50. Since you shot and it’s a new day, it’s a good time to start a new one.

When you get a chance, could you please put on his SS at what “+” you shot so we can see how long you stalled? Great job shooting the full dose!!!

Remember when I said that stalling is for you and not the cat? Same with skipping (which you didn’t do but it’s a good place to address it). If the caregiver (CG) is exhausted, sick, can’t be there to monitor and feed, etc, then stalling or skipping a shot can be helpful for the CG. FD can become exhausting especially if you are up testing during the night and it’s most important to take care of yourself. It’s always great if a CG has a partner, like I did. My husband did everything I did so we didn’t have to stall or skip other than in the very early days. So if you do have someone who you can train to help you, it would be good for your own health especially because cats do like to drop at night as was mentioned.

Learning to shoot lower and lower takes a bit of time and as @FarmKitty said and as we teach in the Lantus/Levemir/Biosimilars forum, new members with newly diagnosed cats should read the regulation methods and adhere to the “no shoot number” at first and then gradually bring that down with help from members so they learn to shoot lower and lower but never below 50 (human meter; 68 pet meter) once they have the data and experience to do so. That takes time.

Your situation is a “little” different because Opie is a long-term diabetic and you have tons of data. You don’t have much data on shooting lower and lower because you just joined us; however, you have been dealing with FD for quite some time. We can help you learn to shoot lower, safely, which will help Opie and the members who have been posting to you are excellent teachers.

I’m glad you have decided to be sure he gets no dry food. It’s very difficult in a multi-cat house and it’s not easy to get all of them off dry onto wet especially if some have special needs diets. While it might be a goal, it might be a very slow process and might not be attainable because it sounds like you have your hands full. Each of us can only do the best we can.

Let’s hope Opie rides those lovely blues today and gives you a bit of a break.
 
@Diane Tyler's Mom do you have any suggestions for MC foods? Please forgive me if you already did this! I’ve been scrolling back through this thread to try to find it.
@LovingOpie
Med and High Carb food and some honey



Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers Gourmet Beef Feast in Gravy 20% High Carbs

Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers Gourmet Chicken Feast in Gravy 15% Med Carbs

Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers Turkey Feast in Gravy 15% Med Carbs

Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers Chicken and Beef in Gravy 15% Med Carbs

Good idea to mark the cans with magic marker how many carbs

Or any on the food chart. Doesn't have to be Fancy Feast just an example about the med and high carb foods

https://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/dr-pierson-new-food-

Between 11% and 17% is medium carbs.

18% and over is high carb.
 
@LovingOpie
Med and High Carb food and some honey



Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers Gourmet Beef Feast in Gravy 20% High Carbs

Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers Gourmet Chicken Feast in Gravy 15% Med Carbs

Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers Turkey Feast in Gravy 15% Med Carbs

Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers Chicken and Beef in Gravy 15% Med Carbs

Good idea to mark the cans with magic marker how many carbs

Or any on the food chart. Doesn't have to be Fancy Feast just an example about the med and high carb foods

https://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/dr-pierson-new-food-

Between 11% and 17% is medium carbs.

18% and over is high carb.
Thank you so much, Diane!!!! It's always a good idea to have differing levels of carbs available -- and a lot of cats do better with a few more carbs (below 10 percent but not the lowest of the low necessarily.) It depends on the cat. We also, of course, have to consider what they will eat! I certainly never had a hard time getting Darcy to eat any of the gravy lovers stuff from FF! Although, @LovingOpie we often recommend giving a teaspoon of the gravy from those foods instead of actually giving the food (although you can... just make sure it's a small amount to keep them hungry since you would not be giving these unless you were trying to "steer" the numbers.) The carbs are mainly in the gravy. I'm not sure if you have gotten these foods yet for your arsenal.
 
Thank you so much, Diane!!!! It's always a good idea to have differing levels of carbs available -- and a lot of cats do better with a few more carbs (below 10 percent but not the lowest of the low necessarily.) It depends on the cat. We also, of course, have to consider what they will eat! I certainly never had a hard time getting Darcy to eat any of the gravy lovers stuff from FF! Although, @LovingOpie we often recommend giving a teaspoon of the gravy from those foods instead of actually giving the food (although you can... just make sure it's a small amount to keep them hungry since you would not be giving these unless you were trying to "steer" the numbers.) The carbs are mainly in the gravy. I'm not sure if you have gotten these foods yet for your arsenal.
You're welcome Suzanne ,yes I agree with just giving the gravy , I was taught that here when I first joined. I hope you have a nice night and all your kitties are ok :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
@Suzanne & Darcy
 
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