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Nico 2.0

Tyleete

Tyleete

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Hello again!
I was asked to make another thread and to just attach the last to it.
So welcome to Nico 2.0
Questions I so have.
We changed him up to half a unit more just Friday evening. From 1 to 1.5 units twice a day.
His numbers are still very high. If it is going to help, would it be instant or will it take time to show? How long do I wait with numbers still so high? I just feel so disappointed after his numbers are still what I call devastating.
And I'm looking at replacing my boy's pet test meter by Advocate, with a Relion. But they're configured to humans. So how do I make that work for knowing what's good and bad?
I think that's it. Going to sleep with another 500's night. Another pic of my little man for the new thread. Thanks again to all that have helped so much.❤️
Intro Nico pt.1
 

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What type of testing am I suppose to do tomorrow?
I know to test before he eats & gets his insulin both times. Should I be testing at any other time? :(
 
Do they normally feel hot? He hasn't had a fever any of the times he's been in, but for the last couple of months he's been sleeping on the house's vents and the hard floor in the bedroom.
I mean, he spends time up with me in bed, and also in other cubbies. But my old guy that passed from bone marrow cancer did this right at the end. And so it makes me so nervous when I see him do it.😬
 

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I don't want to give my opinion as I am not familiar with Prozinc, so can't give any dosing advice.
I know if this was my cat I'd be giving more insulin, until Nico is getting better numbers.
@Suzanne & Darcy is the expert, who you'll get great advice from.

You're doing great with testing so far! Be sure to get a test or two in in the PM, as kitties can go lower at night.

With Prozinc, the onset, when insulin starts being effective is 2 hours after the shot. But I have limited knowlodge and just wanted to give you a response and some encouragement!
 
Lara & Luciole (Lu) said:
I don't want to give my opinion as I am not familiar with Prozinc, so can't give any dosing advice.
I know if this was my cat I'd be giving more insulin, until Nico is getting better numbers.
@Suzanne & Darcy is the expert, who you'll get great advice from.

You're doing great with testing so far! Be sure to get a test or two in in the PM, as kitties can go lower at night.

With Prozinc, the onset, when insulin starts being effective is 2 hours after the shot. But I have limited knowlodge and just wanted to give you a response and some encouragement!
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Thanks!
Suzanne was the one to suggest just going up to the 1.5. But we'll see if she thinks different after yet another 600+ night. I think she said it can take a few days? It's all very confusing to me still. He keeps losing weight. It just sucks. I can't imagine how he feels. :(
 
Tyleete said:
Hello again!
I was asked to make another thread and to just attach the last to it.
So welcome to Nico 2.0
Questions I so have.
We changed him up to half a unit more just Friday evening. From 1 to 1.5 units twice a day.
His numbers are still very high. If it is going to help, would it be instant or will it take time to show? How long do I wait with numbers still so high? I just feel so disappointed after his numbers are still what I call devastating.
And I'm looking at replacing my boy's pet test meter by Advocate, with a Relion. But they're configured to humans. So how do I make that work for knowing what's good and bad?
I think that's it. Going to sleep with another 500's night. Another pic of my little man for the new thread. Thanks again to all that have helped so much.❤️
Intro Nico pt.1
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He is so cute!
 
Okay. Nico is being stubborn! I understand that.

Question: where is the curve data from the other day? Didn’t you test every two hours. I don’t see it on the spreadsheet.
 
It was the 17th. I had been on the phone to the vet when she'd said to stop with the curve after I'd done the preshot test and the +2, +4, & +6 with disastrous results.
Said to increase and wait to try again. :(
That I wouldn't get any better readings at a +8 and above.
Today was awful because at his +5 reading was seemingly pointless after the 'HI' reading to me to do both 4 & 6, so went with your 5 idea from other day. Luckily I had 2 testers, because 1 died on me and so I had to stab him again. And again when the strip said not enough blood, and gave an error code. And again because the strip was in too long with no result before I could give his ear another prick. I hate this system and will be picking up a Relion to compare it tomorrow.
Told him I wouldn't stab him again tonight, because what's the use with those numbers. There is NO chance of him going hypo.😑
 
I’m so sorry. I can see how upset you are. He’s likely been diabetic for quite a while and we cannot get immediate control (unfortunately). Did you get a ketone test today?
 
So if you cannot test him any more tonight then we can’t increase insulin. We will need to increase when you can get a few tests. Tomorrow? Since you have done a very good job of getting some tests with the 1.5 dose and he has been on it for 4 cycles now, we can fast track his dose this time. I would go ahead with the increase to 2 units now that you have documented that he isn’t having a strong reaction to the 1.5 units.
 
Not yet. I'm going to take the lids off all the litter boxes before I feed him his food tonight and try to get a sample like I did last time.
I just hate doing this to him.
And he first started acting out of sorts all the way back in March of this year. We thought it was because he'd just lost his 3rd and final brother in the last 7mo and was depressed. She gave exams and a thyroid test. Nothing showed up. Till October, when he'd lost an additional 2lbs. So yeah, it's probably been a long time.
Am I to stay at the 1.5? If so, for how long if his numbers don't improve? If the 1.5 was good, would we see results right away or does it take a while?
Thanks.
 
When you do the increase to 2 units, please get a +4 and +6 test. Okay?

I feel your frustration. With my cat having a high dose condition that made him insulin resistant, I spent a long time say “the insulin is doing nothing for him… nothing!” I was really upset. So I am not unsympathetic about this at all!

We will help him into healthier numbers!
 
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