Newly diagnosed diabetic kitty

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3OrangiesMom said:
Just called vet and she is ordering me a BG monitor (AlphaTrak) and strips so I can test at home. I should be set by the weekend.

Oh dear....

It's a good meter but VERY EXPENSIVE. The strips cost over $1 each...you use at least 2 per day.

And you can't just run to the pharmacy or WalMart go get more test strips, because you can only
get them from the vet ... will they stock them for you ? You never want to run out of test strips
(trust us on this one).

Vets often push this meter because it's a profit center for them. But a regular meter from humans
will work just as well.

WalMart Reli-On meter....less than $20. Strips for Reli-On I think run 50 for around $20...about 40-cents each.
 
Hope + (((Baby)))GA said:
AlphaTrak truly was not needed. Human meters work just as well and a lot cheaper and you can always find test strips at a pharmacy. When you get a chance, please remove the rainbow icon........candles and rainbow signify a cat has passed away.


I think she's just telling us she's a 'happy camper' again....not upset with us any more.

It won't appear on the main thread heading...
 
I know it is a more expensive meter, but I'll have it until it breaks and if that happens, I'll go out and buy a cheaper one. If I've got the funds, I figure why not? Again, my vet doesn't intend to keep P-kin on one shot a day. We'll most likely go to 2.
Sorry about the rainbow, I am new and didn't know it meant a cat passing.
 
Karen & Smokey(GA) said:
3OrangiesMom said:
Just called vet and she is ordering me a BG monitor (AlphaTrak) and strips so I can test at home. I should be set by the weekend.

Oh dear....

It's a good meter but VERY EXPENSIVE. The strips cost over $1 each...you use at least 2 per day.

And you can't just run to the pharmacy or WalMart go get more test strips, because you can only
get them from the vet ... will they stock them for you ? You never want to run out of test strips
(trust us on this one).

Vets often push this meter because it's a profit center for them. But a regular meter from humans
will work just as well.

WalMart Reli-On meter....less than $20. Strips for Reli-On I think run 50 for around $20...about 40-cents each.

Vet said she would sell it to me at cost, no mark up, and they keep the strips in stock b/c they have other diabetic cats they see.
 
3OrangiesMom said:
Just called vet and she is ordering me a BG monitor (AlphaTrak) and strips so I can test at home. I should be set by the weekend.


That is great. When you receive it and get ready to start hometesting, let us know if you have any difficulties. We have some suggestions that may make it easier for you. It can be a little frustrating at first, but once you find the method that works best for you, it will become second nature. We can't wait to welcome you to the vampire club. :mrgreen:

You may want to get a spare human glucose meter as a back-up. Even if you order any of the free meters you often see advertisements for, they usually come with a few strips, or you can also order one of our newbie kits. The reason I am suggesting this is if you run out of strips for the Alpha-Trak and your vet is not open, at least you will have a spare that you can use until you get some more strips. Plus if an emergency happens that causes you to use a lot of strips, it is easy to get more from your local pharmacy. Many of us have a spare meter just in case we can't use our main meter.

It sounds like you have a great vet and that alone is worth a fortune.
 
At some point you may want to consider a back up meter, in the case of battery dying, run out of strips, wonky numbers (rule out malfunction of meter or strips). It was months of reading posts that I noticed someone comment on being lucky they had their back up meter. I never thought of that! ohmygod_smile Very smart! :mrgreen:

I promptly went out and got myself one. I think it was the relion (walmart - one of the cheapest). And yes, there were two times I recall needing it (1. ran out of strips, 2. wonky #'s and needed to check against regular meter- turned out batteries were going blah).

I think its fine to use the alpha track, as long as you are aware of the extra cost and dont mind. Having the back up might give you extra piece of mind. There are newbie kits which you can order off this site (did anyone mention that yet?). They usually include a meter, a handful of strips, and a few other goodies. If you never use it, then you can send it back- right? :-D

Im glad you are planning on testing. This FD thing gets pretty overwhelming, doesnt it? It gets easier in time.
 
Lisa and Witn (GA) said:
3OrangiesMom said:
Just called vet and she is ordering me a BG monitor (AlphaTrak) and strips so I can test at home. I should be set by the weekend.


That is great. When you receive it and get ready to start hometesting, let us know if you have any difficulties. We have some suggestions that may make it easier for you. It can be a little frustrating at first, but once you find the method that works best for you, it will become second nature. We can't wait to welcome you to the vampire club. :mrgreen:

You may want to get a spare human glucose meter as a back-up. Even if you order any of the free meters you often see advertisements for, they usually come with a few strips, or you can also order one of our newbie kits. The reason I am suggesting this is if you run out of strips for the Alpha-Trak and your vet is not open, at least you will have a spare that you can use until you get some more strips. Plus if an emergency happens that causes you to use a lot of strips, it is easy to get more from your local pharmacy. Many of us have a spare meter just in case we can't use our main meter.

It sounds like you have a great vet and that alone is worth a fortune.

That is a great idea to have 2 meters. I will do that-thanks!
 
My husband and I have considered putting her to sleep, simply because this will be a huge financial strain for us, but we just can't bring ourselves to do it without trying first.
also to save a few bucks, you can use the u-100 syringes , from walmart or hocks.com. reachable with link on top of page. with 1/2 unit markings. this makes dosing smaller amounts so much easier. I use 3/10 cc with half unit markings, 5/16" (these are the short needles) 31 gauge. thinner and hurts less for injections. you must use a conversion chart to do this though
http://www.felinediabetes.com/insulin-conversions.htm
hope this helps
 
dian and wheezer said:
My husband and I have considered putting her to sleep, simply because this will be a huge financial strain for us, but we just can't bring ourselves to do it without trying first.
also to save a few bucks, you can use the u-100 syringes , from walmart or hocks.com. reachable with link on top of page. with 1/2 unit markings. this makes dosing smaller amounts so much easier. I use 3/10 cc with half unit markings, 5/16" (these are the short needles) 31 gauge. thinner and hurts less for injections. you must use a conversion chart to do this though
http://www.felinediabetes.com/insulin-conversions.htm
hope this helps


This is what a lot of us do (did, in my case).

For a newbie, just use the syringes you get from the vet, which will be for U-40 insulin
(ProZinc is a U-40 insulin). The syringes will say on them "for U-40 insulin.

Later, when you need more syringes, it's way cheaper to get them at a human pharmacy.

All human insulin is U-100, so only syringes for U-100 insulin are available at human pharmacies.

There are a number of advantages to using U-100 syringes:
- They are way cheaper. Around $15 for a box of 100.
- There is a greater selection of needle sizes and lengths...you will get better
comfort for your cat with small needles like 30ga or 31ga, which are smaller than
the 29ga and 28ga that veterinary U-40 syringes come in.
- You can do small dose adjustments of U-40 insulin in U-100 syringes.

There is some easy math needed, or a chart, in order to draw up proper dosing of U-40
insulin into U-100 syringes. We will help you with that when the time comes.

You don't need to worry that just yet....you have enough on your plate right now.
 
Hi there and WELCOME,
Try not to judge this group TOO harshly. We are just a bunch of conderned passionate kitty lovers that want nothing more than to see you and your kitty have a long healthy life together, that INCLUDES your Vet. :)

Welcome to the best site on the planet that will help you, help your kitty,

jeanne
 
3OrangiesMom said:
"You might be surprised at some of the vet incompetence we see here. ( Haven't learned a thing since vet school
30 years ago. ) The articles we reference are from Veterinary Journals. Collectively, we have thousands of
hours of treating diabetic cats, and hundreds of success stories. No, we are not vets. But we do have
at least two vet-techs who frequent here, and one DVM...Dr. Lisa Pierson."

I'm not saying everyone on here hasn't given me great advice, there are just a couple of people that made me feel like I was being attacked, and seemed like they were saying I should ignore my vet and do something else. I do understand the importance of home testing; I don't want to shoot P-kin up with insulin if her glucose is 60. I do appreciate the help.

Even though my Jericho has been gone for 2 years, I have to put my two cents in here, because I do not want you to go through losing P-Kin like I did Jericho. I was so torn because it seemed like I was given conflicting advice from my vet and the ladies and gents here on this board. Your vet sounds more knowledgeable than mine did, but I trusted her because I figured "she's a vet, she should know". Yet it makes sense that the people here who've had first hand experience would know what they're talking about. Yes, vets do get the experience, but every cat is different and I would imagine that vets are going by a standard set of protocol. If people sound harsh, it is because they've been there and they realize the importance of getting this under control quickly for the sake of your kitty. They do not want to see anything happen to Pumpkin. Every new person that comes to this board is immediately welcomed into the 'family' because we care, sight unseen, about you and your furbaby. For the sake of your kitty, please don't leave the board. The people here know what they are talking about, they can and want to help you. I don't have enough experience to offer any advice other than how important it is to hometest, and you know your cat better than your vet.
 
Hi,

From your post here, it seems you ordered a SnoCone and an iceberg was delivered. All the people here have the interest of your kitty and you at heart so please overlook the number of responses. I am a lurker on this site and have never tested or given a dose of insulin, but many years ago I did have a sugar cat that recovered just with diet change. You are well on your way to a successful program for your baby of 11.

I would never try to offer medical advice, but Hypo was discussed and I did not see where anyone asked or pointed you to the treatment link. I'm sure you vet (who appears to be quite up to date) has or will discuss the treatment, but the link below is to a "sticky" at the top of this page.

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=15887

Good luck with your treatment program, and please keep us informed.

Bobby
 
ooh, the alpha trak is very expensive (the real cost is in the strips). honestly, you'll do just as well with a regular human glucometer you can get at the drugstore. the relion meter from walmart is cheap, and the contour and one touch ultra often have full rebates at the store (check the weekly ad). for the latter two you can buy strips very cheaply on ebay (around $30 for 100 strips).
the advantage of the other meters is that you can get replacements quickly if you run out of strips. the alpha trak strips are very expensive and if your vet is closed and you're out of strips in a crisis you may be in trouble.

re absorption, it really depends on the cat. some cats only get about 8 hrs of use out of injected insulin. others get up to 14 hours. the way we do it is to try to give insulin frequent enough that the cat has full coverage during the day and even a little bit of overlap to pack a little more punch into the dose. normally that means getting the insulin at least every 12 hours.

i've helped a few cats on prozinc and i like the insulin a lot. i also like lantus.

wishing you good luck. sorry if some of the voices are strong here. we're all so passionate about this that some can come on a little strong, but we all care about you and your kitty. (((Hugs)))
 
orangie's mom, look up at the top of the left side of the screen and see if you have a message. i sent you one. not any advice really, just letting you know about newbie kits and to see if i can help.

am i in trouble for pm-ing oringie's mom? hope not. just giving a little newbie (lev newbie) to newbie love and support and info on what comes in a kit that she might want.
 
Hi... I'm really late to this party.... I'll say welcome to FDMB.... You really will be glad you found this wonderful site. My Charlie was 12 when diagnosed... I cried for a whole day... He was my baby... I found this site and people helped me... to switch to insulin... pills can cause harm... to learn to test... (I was terrified of injecting... let alone pricking his ear (so close to his teeth... My boy had Catitude... But we learned... You are too. You do have a great vet.. she sounds up on diabetes and knows to start low and chose a good insulin... I would ask her to verify that PZI is a twice a day insulin. You see cats metabolize insuline twice as fast as we humans and dogs.. (We all knew they were better right?)

Then maybe start at 1/2a unit 12 hours apart. I gave mine at 7:00 am. and 7:00 pm ... My boy lived until August 5th 2009... he was 18 and a half... He died of a blood clot in his brain. I will miss him forever. He did show us how easy it was to care for a diabetic cat. A woman in sounthern Minnesota turned her 3 year old cat in to be PTS as she refused to treat him.. (A beautiful Norwegian Forrest Cat)... She posted on FDMB, and since we live in Minneapolis area... two days later we drove down and picked up Stevie... He was on insulin for only 10 days. He was 587 when we tested him after he got to our home. (Humane Society would not give him insulin)... I gave him 2 units of PZI... I felt safe... Well was I wrong. The next morning he was at 92... I skipped his morning shot... and made not to drop to one unit... That night he was 350... I gave one unit and again he was very low... (I don't give insulin under 100...) Skipped morning and in the evening he still was too low. He received 1/2 a unit every few days and was totally off insulin by day 10. That's why so many people are saying it's critical to test prior to every shot you give. Too much can kill... But we've walked people through treating hypo's.. (going too low)... it's just feed - and test... high carbs and test.. if you should see them acting weird...

Not to scare you but we do get very proactive in caring for a diabetic cat... We've cried over those that are lost (Thoughts of Charlie still bring tears to my eyes..). We've cried for cats we've never known other than by stories on line as they join our FDMB Family.

So welcome to our family and know you'll be very grateful that you found us.
 
OK everyone:

I bought a Relion Confirm from Wal Mart and tested Pumpkin a few minutes ago. It read 182. I have not given her a dose of insulin yet this morning. Dr. said 1 unit of ProZinc every morning. I think her level seems normal. Should I give her the shot? Reduce the amount? My needles are U40. What would you suggest? She would not eat this morning.
 
personally, with that number I would only give half the dose and test +2 +4 +6. then if +12 is back up. give another .5
if on low carb wet already (sorry cannot remember right now) then you are already seeing some results from that and of course no vet stress for cat. at this rate, looks as though good chance of being regulated. ps important that she does eat
 
I think she is not eating because of being off the steroid. She was put on the steroid for her asthma, but also ended up treating what my vet suspected was IBD. I think her tummy is upset and she won't eat. Tried to feed her again a few minutes ago and she's still not interested.
 
dian and wheezer said:
personally, with that number I would only give half the dose and test +2 +4 +6. then if +12 is back up. give another .5
if on low carb wet already (sorry cannot remember right now) then you are already seeing some results from that and of course no vet stress for cat. at this rate, looks as though good chance of being regulated. ps important that she does eat

Does the +2 +4 +6 mean I should test her in 2, 4, and 6 hours? I started her on a low carb wet diet last night. She ate 1/2 a can of Fancy Feast.
 
3OrangiesMom said:
I think she is not eating because of being off the steroid. She was put on the steroid for her asthma, but also ended up treating what my vet suspected was IBD. I think her tummy is upset and she won't eat. Tried to feed her again a few minutes ago and she's still not interested.


I'm sorry I have not read the entire thread, but saw this. Did you wean her off the steroid slowly?
 
good catch. I do not remember reading being weaned but I did not read all of thread either. very bust yesterday.

cats and humans must be weaned off steroids. not sure of effects when not done But I would call vet and see how it should go
 
We weaned her off the steroid over the course of 1 1/2 weeks.
Vet wants me to bring her in this morning to check her weight; advised to not give her insulin. I'm taking my meter with me so they can compare reading with theirs, so I might not have to buy the expensive AlphaTrak. She has mentioned the Pepcid before-I'll ask her if we could try this.
 
just remember, there is a +/- 20% variance in meters. even if you test twice in a row with same meter within seconds. a lot of us use the relion and have no problem with how it reads. basically, you get a meter and stick with it. you can go crazy comparing numbers from different meters.and they all will read different.
believe me Please. your relion is more than adequate.
hang in there
do you have a first name we can call you? thanks
 
dian and wheezer said:
just remember, there is a +/- 20% variance in meters. even if you test twice in a row with same meter within seconds. a lot of us use the relion and have no problem with how it reads. basically, you get a meter and stick with it. you can go crazy comparing numbers from different meters.and they all will read different.
believe me Please. your relion is more than adequate.
hang in there
do you have a first name we can call you? thanks

Yeah, I read in another thread that the meters can vary. As long as I can keep it in the ballpark, I won't worry about it.
The Relion will probably be my go-to meter because the strips are cheap, I got the meter for $9.00 (Yes, $9.00!!!) and my local Wal-Mart is open 24 hours. That will be handy in an emergency!
My name is Sarah.
 
Carol-Charlie said:
My boy lived until August 5th 2009... he was 18 and a half... He died of a blood clot in his brain. I will miss him forever.

Poor baby!
I agree that this has been easy...so far...but I have yet to experience Hypo...which will send me over the edge...but I've got my supply of Karo syrup!!
So far the only thing she really objects to is having her ears stuck. I suppose she'll get used to that.
Thanks for the welcome!
 
welcome Sarah and thank you for buying the relion. yep cheap,cheap,cheap and 24 hours works too. this dance is about the best care we can give all the way around and the least expensive. things are tight for a lot of us. did you see videos on how to test??
if not, I can try and find for you
 
here is one video.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zE12-4fVn8 get P used to ears being touched. sit with him and pet ears. also. give a treat even though you may have failed on test and keep calm. they will pick up on the stress. ears must learn to bleed. they will come to associate ear prick with treat and then feeling better when insulin is working.
P will need to be tested frequently cause of no more steroids and the lo carb diet. he has a good chance here.
if trouble getting blood from ear, you can make a rice sock and heat in micro for a few seconds and put on ear to warm to increase blood flow. I usually just rub ear (massage) to warm it up.
any other questions, just ask
 
dian and wheezer said:
here is one video.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zE12-4fVn8 get P used to ears being touched. sit with him and pet ears. also. give a treat even though you may have failed on test and keep calm. they will pick up on the stress. ears must learn to bleed. they will come to associate ear prick with treat and then feeling better when insulin is working.
P will need to be tested frequently cause of no more steroids and the lo carb diet. he has a good chance here.
if trouble getting blood from ear, you can make a rice sock and heat in micro for a few seconds and put on ear to warm to increase blood flow. I usually just rub ear (massage) to warm it up.
any other questions, just ask

Thanks for the link. That is a great idea about the treat-I'll give that a try. I'll also start massaging her ears when she's lounging in my lap, so she doesn't think every time I mess with her ears, she's going to get stuck. I guess the best thing is, she is so light in color, I never have trouble finding that vein. I can see it plain as day, so I don't have to worry about missing too many times!
 
actually, you do not aim for the vein. it is the spot between the vein and outer edge of ear. will look for a pic of this for you
 
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m267 ... etspot.jpg anywhere form where it shows all the way down to just above the fold.
HTH

edited to add
as for treats. some bonito flakes, freeze dried chicken, frozen raw chicken, halo treats, anything low carb will do. do not give him regular dry cat food as a treat. this will be defeating your purpose of treating. I would think even a very small amount of lo carb wet will do if nothing else on hand. like dip your finger in. I used to do this
 
here is another article on hometesting. i DID NOT READ THROUGH IT BUT IT BASICALLY COVERS STUFF. YOU CAN read about meters but what you have now is perfectly fine. this will just broaden your info
 
sarah i am so :-D you are testing...and at first i thought yes shoot a micro dose into that am # but considering the steriods and your vet visit today perhaps it was prudent to not shoot. is that what you did? either way you are ok...especially since YOU can test now!
 
For another testing site, I test the inner/thicker edge of the ear, about 2/3 of the way down. I go in just a bit, use a lancet pen and voila, easy peasy.

I think not dosing at 180 was a good decision...see where things go

Jen
 
dian and wheezer said:
you can try 1/4 tab of pepcid AC for upset tummy. think it can be given every 12 hours.

Pepcid AC helps with nausea that may accompany loss of appetite.

1/4 of a 10mg tablet of Pepcid AC (not Pepcid Complete).

The generic name for Pepcid AC is Famotidine. Many chain-store pharmacies (WalMart, etc.)
carry their own house brand of famotidine.

If you can only get the 'extra strength' 20mg tablets, then the dose is 1/8 of a 20mg tablet 2x/day.

I found that I could just crush it and put it into the canned food.
 
3OrangiesMom said:
... I'm taking my meter with me so they can compare reading with theirs, so I might not have to buy the expensive AlphaTrak. ...

There is roughly a 30 point, consistent difference between human meters and an AlphaTrack. This means the cut off values for evaluating the results are different too.

Ex
Low values where risk of hypoglycemia may occur
Relion: < 50
AlphaTrack : < 80

To demonstrate this difference, (I saw you are on ProZinc) print out the attached file for your vet to show the reference values used for Lantus using human vs animal glucometers.
Dosing protocol for cats on glargine or detemir using daily home monitoring of blood glucose concentrations to adjust insulin dose.pdf
 
3OrangiesMom said:
OK everyone:

I bought a Relion Confirm from Wal Mart and tested Pumpkin a few minutes ago. It read 182. I have not given her a dose of insulin yet this morning. Dr. said 1 unit of ProZinc every morning. I think her level seems normal. Should I give her the shot? Reduce the amount? My needles are U40. What would you suggest? She would not eat this morning.

U-40 syringes are used with U-40 insulin ( ProZinc). It has nothing to do with the dose.

The first little line right next to the needle is 'zero'.

Then 1,2,3,4,5 (first numbered line).

For one unit of U-40 just draw up the dose to the '1' mark in a U-40 syringe.

For 1/2 unit of U-40, eyeball it halfway between '0' and '1'.
 
Good morning Sarah (finally know your name), and you, too, Pumpkin.

The switch to low-carb food is already having an affect, possibly...lower BG this am.
 
Vet checked her BG with the AlphaTrak and then my meter, and they were pretty close. Dr. was happy that I had found something cheaper that worked just as well as the Alpha. She even took down the meters' info to tell others about it (so THANKS guys!!). Her BG was higher-to be expected-so she suggested I only give her 1/2 a unit when I got home. What she is mainly concerned about now is her not eating and weight loss. She gave her 1/2 a Pepcid and an appetite stimulant. I took her home and closed her in a room with food, water, and litter box to make sure she's eating, peeing, and drinking-kind of hard to tell with 2 other cats around-so hopefully she'll have done all 3 by the time I get home tonight.
She really hates the vet now. She was there Monday, Wednesday, and now today. I am hoping that is it for awhile. If she doesn't start eating, then the Dr. suggested we do an ultrasound to look for cancer. Let's hope she eats!
 
Karen & Smokey(GA) said:
dian and wheezer said:
you can try 1/4 tab of pepcid AC for upset tummy. think it can be given every 12 hours.

Pepcid AC helps with nausea that may accompany loss of appetite.

1/4 of a 10mg tablet of Pepcid AC (not Pepcid Complete).

The generic name for Pepcid AC is Famotidine. Many chain-store pharmacies (WalMart, etc.)
carry their own house brand of famotidine.

If you can only get the 'extra strength' 20mg tablets, then the dose is 1/8 of a 20mg tablet 2x/day.

I found that I could just crush it and put it into the canned food.

Thanks-that's helpful!!
 
dian and wheezer said:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m267/chupie_2006/testingear/sweetspot.jpg anywhere form where it shows all the way down to just above the fold.
HTH

edited to add
as for treats. some bonito flakes, freeze dried chicken, frozen raw chicken, halo treats, anything low carb will do. do not give him regular dry cat food as a treat. this will be defeating your purpose of treating. I would think even a very small amount of lo carb wet will do if nothing else on hand. like dip your finger in. I used to do this

Oh, that pic is great! Thanks!!!
My pet store was out of the freeze dried chicken, I'll try another store tonight.
Are Halo treats the brand name?
 
Check your local wal-mart I was able to find both chicken and duck jerky treats there, that were pure meat. They are actually sold as dog treats under the Brand Name Waggin Train. I use the chicken ones here for the cats and just take kitchen shears to cut them up into little pieces then store them in an air-tight contained. But 22 oz pkg, runs about $10 and make a ton of bite size kitty treats. Way cheaper than those sold exclusively for cats.

They are pure meat, and have never effected Max's BGs at all and the whole crew loves them.

Mel, Max & The Fur Gang
 
Has your vet heard of FortiFlora? Dr. Lisa considers it a great way to get kitties to eat:


Fortiflora per Dr Lisa
Try a product called FortiFlora. Most cats LOVE FortiFlora and this has recently become my favorite trick. This is a probiotic made by Purina but you are not going to use it for its probiotic properties. You are just going to use it as a flavor enhancer. The base ingredient in FortiFlora is animal digest - the very substance that makes dry food so very enticing to cats. The directions say to use 1 package/day - and you can use this much if you want to - but this amount is not usually necessary. You may only need ~1/4 of a package - or less - with part mixed into the food and part sprinkled on top of the food just as you would use salt and pepper on your own food.
 
Newly diagnosed cats are quite frequently inappetant. My Squeak is a hoover but he stopped eating and I had to give him appetite stimulants AND force feed him for a few days. High bgs make them feel like crap and so they won't eat.....becomes a vicious cycle. Force feed if you have to so that you can continue to give insulin because your cat needs the insulin to metabolize food.
 
3OrangiesMom said:
My pet store was out of the freeze dried chicken, I'll try another store tonight.
Are Halo treats the brand name?

Halo is one brand name. Any brand of freeze dried meat or fish is fine :smile: Real Food Toppers and Whole Life are two other brands. The dog treat aisle of the pet store may have suitable freeze dried meat treats. Make sure the ingredient is only 100% meat or fish.

Here's a list of low carb treats: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=9172

You can even use freeze dried raw pet food. My civies love the Stella and Chewy's brand. It's grain-free.
 
can also try heating food a little to make it more stinky, add tuna water, parm cheese, tuna flakes and I guess if worse comes to worse, crush up a little dry and sprinkle on top. right now it is important he eats. we can always adjust insulin for the carbs til he gets himself in the groove of food
 
Thanks for all of the treat suggestions, and for the FortiFlora! I'll try that ASAP. Called home and my husband said she still hasn't eaten anything, otherwise she's acting normally. Will check her BG when I get home.
 
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