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Roxanne J

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Looking for advice/your experiences with insulin. My vet wants to use vetsulin but I've heard others say "no". Does anyone have any experience with Novalin? The pharmacist at Walmart (who was very helpful today) said she sees a lot of customers using Novalin for their cats.

I have not started with any insulin yet. Tomorrow, I take in her urine sample and I've begun modifying her diet (mixing wet with dry) to wean her off of the dry food. Amazingly, she took right to it, I was prepared for a battle on this...so one down and several to go....:)
 
I have no experience with those insulins.we've been on Lantus. I'm under the impression that the long lasting insulins make for easier control of the diabetes.
 
Following on from BJ's post above, Vetsulin and Novolin are quite harsh in their action on feline diabetics' blood glucose levels; they tend to drop a cat's blood glucose levels hard and fast at the beginning of the 12-hour cycle but then they typically wear off several hours before the next dose is due resulting in the cat's BG rising back to higher numbers again for several hours before the next dose is due.

Some cats may do OK on these harsh, shorter-acting insulins but they would be in the minority.


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That's fantastic that you did not start giving insulin as yet!
It's best to do your research and change the diet first.
The best diet for cats is low carbohydrate wet food, some people like myself feed only species appropriate raw homemade food or, if it is too difficult for you to do a good commercial wet food is good.
If you could spend some time reading through this website you will find lots of information and you can make informed decisions what to do.
There are a lot of members on this forum to guide you through FD with a lot of experience, but please don't be tempted by receiving advice from many sources on internet as this can only confuse you.
It is a good idea to read all information available from many sources and decide which site is most appealing to you and then follow the advice.
Good luck and let us know if we could help you.
Best regards,
Marlena & Rocky
 
The odds of remission I've gleaned from studies over the years (with a low carb canned diet and home monitoring) are 80+% for Lantus and Levemir, 40-60% for Prozinc/PZI, and approximately 20-25% for Vetsulin/Novolin (with Vetsulin performing slightly better than Novolin in cats). 20-25% is also the estimated number of cats that go into remission from diet change alone, so it does make me wonder if the majority of cats that reach remission on these insulins would have gone into remission regardless of the insulin used. If you do start with either of those insulins (and I wouldn't recommend it), I would not use them for any longer than 4 weeks before switching if they aren't working well.

Lantus is pricy in the US, but there are affordable ways to get it! Many of us order from Mark's Marine Pharmacy in Canada to get our insulin at a fraction of the price it costs in the US. All you need is a script from your vet. Many vets and owners choose the vetsulin/novolin route because it appears cheaper, but it's actually not! A five pack of Lantus pens (think of them as 5 mini vials), costs about $170 after shipping. Each pen will last you 2-3 months or more with good handling, so that $170 will last you the whole year (less than $15 a month). A vial of Novolin will cost you minimally $26 a vial, but the vial will only last a month. When you take into account that Lantus will give you much better control over your cats blood sugar and is far safer, and the Novolin will likely give you poor control and require more intense monitoring to safely administer, the Lantus is the much better deal! Not to mention that for most cats on Lantus, it's a one-time cost if they go into remission, and cats are unlikely to reach remission on Vetsulin or Novolin.

If you need to get your vet on board with your choice, here's a link to the American Animal Hospital Association guidelines that state Lantus (glargine) and Prozinc are the recommended insulins for cats, and lente (vetsulin) insulins should not be used. I've also attached an article on Lantus below that discusses administering and remission rates for the insulin. I would print both of these out to bring to your vet!
 

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mush was diagnosed on 5/1/15, vet gave him Prozinc. Went to fdmb & they were a big help. I changed diet from dry to wet(see Dr. lisa's list) & he
was in remission by 9/24/15. Good luck & don't fret, your girl will be fine!!!
 
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