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Laurie Vasquez

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Hello.. My name is Laurie, my sugar kitty is Ricky.. He is 6 yrs old, orange tabby, rescue off the street in Philadelphia, PA by my daughter.. He is fixed, was recently diagnosed with diabetes in July.. He is on glargine insulin..He thinks he's a human..lol.. Very talkative and lovable.. We have raised him since he could fit in the palm of our hands.. He's an indoor kitty..
I want to learn as much as I can to give him the opportunity to live a long, healthy and happy life..
 

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Good morning Laurie & Ricky. Welcome to FDMB.

Glargine (Lantus) is a good insulin for cats and they respond well to it. Can you tell us more about Ricky's treatment so we can help guide you on this journey? What is his current dose and if it is different from his starting dose, what was the starting dose? What do you feed him? Have you started hometesting yet?

Hometesting means testing Ricky's blood glucose (BG) before every shot. You do this to ensure it is safe to give the insulin. It also helps you to determine if you need to adjust the dose. This is done by using a human glucose meter and measuring a little drop of blood from your cat's ear.

If you have not started to already, start reading the posts on this site about diet, hometesting & hypoglycemia. Ask any question you may have. We have all been where you are now. It may seem overwhelming at the beginning, but I can assure you that it does get easier.
 
Good Morning

Good Morning New friends, I have been reading about home testing. Online, we took him to a vet at Petsmart, only things he did was blood work, and gave Ricky fluids subcutaniously because Ricky was very dehydrated n on the tiping point of diabetic shock.. Never new he had diabetes.. He didn't discuss home testing or changing his diet.. I called to schedule a follow-up appt and was told he is no longer an employee of theirs.. Currently I am out of work, I am desperately searching for a job. So I can't afford to take him back.. Gonna try to do whatever I can to take care of Ricky at home in the mean time.. I don't have a meter or anything yet.. Just found out about home testing last night while browsing this site.. Ricky is on glargine, 2 units twice daily.. I feed him half a can of 9lives w a small hand full of crunchy food twice a day.. He never liked soft food before, but when he got sick he wasn't eating at all so I started force feeding him and giving him water with a syringe.. Now he goes crazy for soft food.. As sick as Ricky was, we were told to consider putting him to sleep.. I felt as him mommy It wasn't time.. I couldn't afford his insulin but was blessed with a friend that had extra and gave us some.. I had our pastor come to our house and bless Ricky as well.. Ricky is back to his lovable, talkative self..
I am open to any and all suggestions/advice.. If anyone knows where I could get a meter for home testing, preferably donated, only because I have no income right now, I would greatly appreciate it.. Just want to do the best I can for my sugar kitty..
 
OK, ready for the intro to feline diabetes? :-D

There are three key factors to managing diabetes: food/nutrition, home testing and insulin

1) Feline Nutrition: Now, as far as diet - definitely dump the dry food (if you are feeding any) and if the vet recommends purchasing prescription food like DM just say "no thank you". ALL cats, and especially those with diabetes, do best on a species appropriate diet that is high in protein and low in carbs. Dry food DOES NOT fit that bill and DM food, even canned, just really isn't that great as far as quality. Most here on FDMB feed low carb/high protein canned, raw bought from a pet store or they make there own.

Here is a link to a site by a vet "Dr. Lisa DVM" ... who also posts on this board from time to time ... www.catinfo.org

If you look on the right side of her site, she has a food comparison chart to help you figure out what food you want to get based on the carb %.

You want to keep the carb % below 10% and around 7% is great. (Personally, I stay between 0-6% carbs.)

While on her site, you can read about in-depth info. on nutrition and how to make raw food, etc.

Here is another link that will give more information about food/nutrition

Nutrition/food info

The good thing with feeding your diabetic cat this way, is that it is ALSO good for any non-diabetic cat too. All your cats can safely eat the same food without worry and it may save you some costs and headaches of having to do separate feedings and keeping track of what they are eating.


2. Home testing: It is impossible to convey the value of testing your cat's BG (blood glucose) level at home. Some vets will "suggest" this, but most won't even mention it. They will send you home with insulin and an amount to shoot and maybe some instructions about hypoglycemia (blood sugar dropping to a dangerously low level).

Well, the thing is, human diabetics don't EVER give themselves insulin without checking there BG to make sure it is safe to do so, so why shouldn't it be the same for our kitties. Here on FDMB it is. You will notice that the vast majority of people here test their cat's BG at least 2x/day (before giving each shot to make sure the level is safe enough) and periodically at other times to see how the cat is responding to the current dose. We use a human glucometer, test strips and lancets - which are all very readily available and easy to use.

Our kitties get lots of love and treats for "putting up" with this and most of them actually come out to be tested on their own 'cause they want those treats . Here is a collection of great links that "Carolyn and Spot" pulled together about hometesting. See what you think ... it truly is the best way to not only keep Your cat safe but also really get a handle on this disease and help him to live a healthy life with FD (feline diabetes).

Home testing Links

Are you willing to learn how to home test? If you are, then we have plenty of resources to help you.

3. Insulin: Well you are already using Lantus (glargine) and that's an excellent insulin. I do suggest you visit the Lantus forum, so you can read up on the handling, dosing, usage of Lantus. And don't get scared when you see the posts there - eventually, you too will be posting on that forum. I promise.

Insulin Support Groups


Be sure to read the stickies (starred posts on the top of page)--

STICKY: LANTUS & LEVEMIR - NEW TO THE GROUP? PLEASE READ... viewtopic.php?f=9&t=18139

STICKY: LANTUS & LEVEMIR - TIGHT REGULATION PROTOCOL viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1581

STICKY: LANTUS & LEVEMIR - INFO, PROPER HANDLING, & STORAGE
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=151

STICKY: LANTUS & LEVEMIR - SHOOTING & HANDLING LOW NUMBERS viewtopic.php?f=9&t=147

STICKY: LANTUS & LEVEMIR - WHAT IS THE INSULIN DEPOT?
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=150

However, one caveat and again this shows how these three things are inter-related:

If you are feeding dry food or even a high carb food, BEFORE removing these foods, please make sure of your insulin dose as it will most likely need to be reduced, so as to avoid a possible hypoglycemic situation due to the removal of the dry/high carb foods that will lower the BG’s and reduce the amount of insulin required. Again, another reason why home testing is important.


I know this all seems like a lot, and that's because it is ... there is a learning curve here. But as long as you are determined and keep at it, you will have it down before you know it and you'll be seeing the results in Your cat' overall health and happiness. Ask all the questions you can think of - that's why we are here!

Now, you can do this on a budget. Here is a shopping to get started:

1. Meter ie Walmart Relion Confirm or Micro*
2. Matching strips
3. Lancets - little sticks to poke the ear to get blood . new members usually start with a larger gauge lancet such as 28g or 29g until the ear learns to bleed. Optional - lancing tool.
4. Neosporin or Polysporin ointment with pain relief to heal the wound (can use generic brand)
5. Mini flashlight (optional) - useful to help see the ear veins in dark cats, and to press against
7. Ketone urine test strips ie ketodiastix - Important to check ketones when blood is high
8. Treats for the cat - like freeze dried chicken, even rotisserie chicken, deli chicken, canned tuna will work
9. Karo syrup/table syrup, honey or any sugar product like jam, jelly, etc. if you dont have it at home - for hypo emergencies to bring blood sugar up fast -
10. A couple of cans of fancy feast gravy lovers or other high carb gravy food- for hypo emergencies to bring blood sugar up fast


* We suggest the Relion meter and matching strips from Walmart, as they are the most economically priced meter and strips.
 
Once you are testing, here are some glucose reference ranges used for decision making using a human glucometer. Numbers in parentheses are for non-US meters.

< 40 mg/dL (2.2)
- Treat as if HYPO if on insulin
- At nadir (lowest point between shots) in a long term diabetic (more than a year), may earn a reduction.

< 50 mg/dL (2.8)
- If before nadir, steer with food, ie, give modest amounts of medium carb food to keep from going below 50.
- At nadir, often indicates dose reduction is earned.

50 - 130 mg/dL (2.8 - 7.2)
- On insulin - great control when following a tight regulation protocol.
- Off insulin - normal numbers.
(May even go as low as the upper 30s (1.7); if not on insulin, this can be safe.

> 150 mg/dL (8.3)
- At nadir, indicates a dose increase may be needed when following a tight regulation protocol.

200 mg/dL (11.1)
- no shot level for beginners; may slowly reduce to 150 mg/dL ( 8.3) for long-acting insulins (Lantus, Levemir, and ProZinc) as data collection shows it is safe

180 - 280 mg/dL (10 - 15.6)
- Any time - The renal threshold (depending on data source and cat's renal function) where glucose spills into the urine.
- Test for ketones, glucose is too high.

>= 280 mg/dL (15.6), if for most of the cycle between shots
- Uncontrolled diabetes and thus at risk for diabetic ketoacidosis and hepatic lipidosis
- Follow your insulin protocol for dose adjustments
- Test for ketones; if more than a trace level of ketones, go to vet ASAP.
 
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