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My Jill was diagnosed as diabetic this past week after being taken to the vet with a leg injury. Jill is 9 years old and a little dainty thing. She weighed in at 13 pounds and her fructosamine count was 296. We are doing a 4-week diet change and rechecking her levels at that time.

My question: Is there any DRY food we can give cats on a diabetic diet? Jill loves her dry food. She doesn't eat a lot but does graze throughout the day.

I have found this site very informative and look forward to meeting and making new friends that are experiencing what I am.

Belinda
 
Hi Belinda,

Welcome and what an adorable face your Jill has!!!

I’ll let others more experienced in food answer, but I do believe dry food is not the best overall and the best thing for our diabetic babies is to transition them to wet canned food. Maybe keep dry food as a treat as you try to transition her?

the one thing I do want to say is that I wouldn’t wait the 4 weeks to get her started on insulin. Mind you, I got the same advice from the vet when Minnie was diagnosed and that wasted month really affected her weigh and the onset of neuropathy. Your cat can still go into remission once in insulin and many here have. I just wouldn’t wait as getting the right dose and the diabetes regulated can take a while. From my personal experience, I regret doing that. Anyone else thoughts on this?

welcome again and I can promise you you’ve come to the right place. My Minnie has recovered from the neuropathy by 90% and her insulin dose has been decreasing consistently since I started listening to folks here and home testing as well :cat:
 
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My Jill was diagnosed as diabetic this past week after being taken to the vet with a leg injury. Jill is 9 years old and a little dainty thing. She weighed in at 13 pounds and her fructosamine count was 296. We are doing a 4-week diet change and rechecking her levels at that time.

My question: Is there any DRY food we can give cats on a diabetic diet? Jill loves her dry food. She doesn't eat a lot but does graze throughout the day.

I have found this site very informative and look forward to meeting and making new friends that are experiencing what I am.

Belinda
Oh and a few links you should check out with a lot of information about this site and what you can do to make it easier for members to have all the info they need to best help you, in case you haven’t already

http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/the-basics-new-to-the-group-start-here.18139/

http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/new-how-you-can-help-us-help-you.216696/

http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/editing-your-signature-profile-and-preferences.130340/
 
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Hello Belinda, welcome to FDMB!

We don't recommend dry food for a variety of reasons, mainly that it is not species-appropriate as dry food lacks water content and, for our diabetic kitties, is too high in carbs. For reference, diabetics should have less than 10% of carbs in their diet, ideally in the 5% range. Dry food, even the prescription diabetic kind, is 18%+ .

Now there ARE two brands that are low enough in carbs you could use: Young Again and Dr. Elsey's. They are not cheap but if you wanted to order some as a food topper or mix it with Jill's food you could take that route. I've heard Dr. Elsey's can cause issues though, I haven't personally used either.
 
Hello Belinda, welcome to FDMB!

We don't recommend dry food for a variety of reasons, mainly that it is not species-appropriate as dry food lacks water content and, for our diabetic kitties, is too high in carbs. For reference, diabetics should have less than 10% of carbs in their diet, ideally in the 5% range. Dry food, even the prescription diabetic kind, is 18%+ .

Now there ARE two brands that are low enough in carbs you could use: Young Again and Dr. Elsey's. They are not cheap but if you wanted to order some as a food topper or mix it with Jill's food you could take that route. I've heard Dr. Elsey's can cause issues though, I haven't personally used either.

Here’s a chart with most available food and their nutritional content including carbs:
https://catinfo.org/docs/CatFoodProteinFatCarbPhosphorusChart.pdf
 
I have used Dr Elsey's in the past besides FF Pate
For Tyler it never affected his BG and had no problems with his stomach or his poop
I used the Chicken Flavor.
It was Young Again that I heard caused issues
I would order it from Chewy's
Dr Elsey's will send you samples , just go on their site and ask for the Dry Chicken flavor

Just took a look and Chewy's out of stock both the 2 lb bag and the 6.6 lb bag only see the salmon which is higher carbs than the chicken

I do see that Walmart has both and Amazon only has the 6.6 lb in stock

8.96 for a 2 lb bag
41.87 for the 6.6 lb bag
So it is pretty expensive
 
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Hi and welcome Belinda and Jill (who is a real beauty!)

As far as I am aware a fructosamine test of 296 is within the normal range. (Normal 171-314). I did read that it had changed a bit so I’ll tag @Deb & Wink as she was the one who mentioned it. What symptoms did she have?

If you are not going to Start insulin while you do the change over of food, which is fine, I would go out and buy a bottle of Ketostix from a pharmacy, or Walmart if you are in the US, and test the urine every few days for ketones. Ketones can form in diabetic cats who are not getting enough insulin. It is a simple test and is a good insurance policy while you do the change over of food.
I would ditch the dry if I were you. It is not good for cats. Only has 7% moisture in it compared to 78% for canned and raw And with the exception of the two mentioned above are very high in carbs. Cats need lots of moisture for their kidneys. But do the swap over slowly...you need to make sure Jill is eating well all the time.
 
http://
www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/reference-ranges-for-fructosamine-test.196850/

Your cat is within the "Normal" range for a non-diabetic cat. Perfectly within acceptable limits.
Fructosamine Reference Ranges for Cats:

Cats Fructosamine values (micromol/l)
Normal non-diabetic cat 190 - 365
Newly diagnosed diabetic cat 350 - 730

Treated diabetic cats:

Excellent control 350 - 400
Good control 400 - 450
Fair control 450 - 500
Poor control >500

So why did you vet diagnosis your cat as diabetic? Certainly not based on a perfectlyn normal fructosamine tests. So what else is going on?
 
So where do I start?

Monday my friend's husband passed away from a stroke.

Tuesday morning one of my close friends died of Bile Duct Cancer (she was 33).

I came home from work Tuesday night when I went to feed Jill I could not find her. After calling her several times she came out from under the bed dragging her left rear leg behind her. I loaded her up and took her to the Emergency Clinic. They took her inside, I couldn't go with her because of this covid pandemic, and brought me paperwork to fill out. About an hour later the Vet called me on my cellphone and told me that he had examined Jill and he was very concerned because she was not reacting to pain stimuli. He stated they had clamped a forcep on her foot and she had no reaction. He stated he believed she had a saddle thrombus and that we may have to make a decision on whether to amputate her leg or put her to sleep but he needed to run some blood work and further test to confirm his diagnosis. A few moments later a Vet Tech arrived with a detailed sheet on what he wanted to do that would cost $1200.00. I explained I could not afford this and asked if they could give her something for the pain to keep her comfortable for the evening until I could take her to the Vet in the morning. He gave her fluids and an injection of Buprenex which cost $211.88.

The next morning (Wednesday) at 7:30 am I got Jill back into her carrier (which she hates), put her in the car (which she hates), and took her to the Vet that takes care of our Min Pin. They again took her from me and explained I could not come into the building and brought me more paperwork. I filled out the paperwork and sat in my car and waited. The Vet Tech brought me a detailed plan of what the doctor wanted to do which I agreed to and they told me that I should go home and the doctor would call me when she had some information. Around 1:00 pm the doctor called and stated that they had done x-rays and a limb study and Jill has a soft tissue injury more than likely from jumping from the dresser, bed or window and landing wrong and that it would heal in 10-14 days and they were going to put her on anti-inflammatory and pain meds, she stated that Jill's labs showed a high glucose reading which could be stress hyperglycemia and she wanted to do another test to verify called a fructosamine test. She also let me know that Jill had bitten one of the Vet Techs while doing her x-rays and since her rabies shots were not up to date animal control would be calling me. They stated I could come to pick up Jill at 4:00 pm. We arrived at 4:00 pm and animal control was waiting for us to give us a "ticket" and a bright yellow sign to put on our front door stating "Animal in Quarantine on Premises". The vet techs came out with medication and instructions and then brought Jill out for us to take home.

The next morning (Thursday) my husband called me at work to let me know the doctor had called to let us know that Jill's fructosamine test was back (295) and that she was diabetic and wanted to meet with us Friday afternoon to discuss treatment options (Insulin or put her to sleep). We arrived at the appointment Friday afternoon and the doctor came in and said she had some good news and that we could try changing Jill's diet and check her reading again in four weeks. She gave us the Lisa Pierson, DVM food chart, a journal to document feeding, urine, water intake.

I have been reading on this subject since Thursday morning and I was very suspicious of this diagnosis since Jill has had none of the symptoms I have read on almost every site on feline diabetes (Increased Appetite, Weight Loss, Excessive Thirst, Increased Urination) but I could not find anything on fructosamine reading. Then I found this site and was hopeful you nice people could help me learn to care for my sick kitty, but now I am wondering if I ever really had anything to worry about.

I pray this next week is kinder.
 
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Yes, they based their diagnosis on her fructosamine test. And the number is 295 I have a copy of the test in my hand right now.


http://
www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/reference-ranges-for-fructosamine-test.196850/

Your cat is within the "Normal" range for a non-diabetic cat. Perfectly within acceptable limits.
Fructosamine Reference Ranges for Cats:

Cats Fructosamine values (micromol/l)
Normal non-diabetic cat 190 - 365
Newly diagnosed diabetic cat 350 - 730

Treated diabetic cats:

Excellent control 350 - 400
Good control 400 - 450
Fair control 450 - 500
Poor control >500

So why did you vet diagnosis your cat as diabetic? Certainly not based on a perfectlyn normal fructosamine tests. So what else is going on?
 
What are you feeding Jill now, are you strictly feeding the dry you mentioned on your first post
Here is Dr Pierson's food chart that is on this site
Here is the link to the food charthttp://catinfo.org/docs/CatFoodProteinFatCarbPhosphorusChart.pdf

What did the vet suggest you feed her

If I were you I would go to Walmart and buy one of theIr meters the Relion Prime
and the test strips and lancets to see what's up with her

So sorry to hear about your best friend and your friends husband passing

So on your first post that you did you said a leg injury, so you already knew that it was a soft tissue injury, I only ask because I was a little confused when you told us here,

I guess the clinic was wrong when he thought it might be a saddle thrombus and she had no reaction to pain?

I'm happy it was only a soft tissue injury
Please keep us posted and let us know how Jill is doing, she is a beautiful kitty
@Bron and Sheba (GA)

@Deb & Wink
What do you guys think of this
 
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Jill was dragging her left rear leg when I got home Tuesday night so I knew she had a leg injury when I took her to the Vet on Tuesday just wasn't sure what it was (strain, sprain, broken, etc). Was happy it wasn't broken or worse. I feel I got a lot of misdiagnoses this week so not sure what or who to trust.

Jill gets a half a can of Friskies wet food in the morning and a half of Friskies wet food at night and there is always a bowl of dry food (Purina Indoor Cat Chow) available for her to graze.


What are you feeding Jill now, are you strictly feeding the dry you mentioned on your first post
Here is Dr Pierson's food chart that is on this site
Here is the link to the food charthttp://catinfo.org/docs/CatFoodProteinFatCarbPhosphorusChart.pdf

What did the vet suggest you feed her

If I were you I would go to Walmart and buy one of theIr meters the Relion Prime
and the test strips and lancets to see what's up with her

So sorry to hear about your best friend and your friends husband passing

So on your first post that you did you said a leg injury, so you already knew that it was a soft tissue injury, I only ask because I was a little confused when you told us here,

I guess the clinic was wrong when he thought it might be a saddle thrombus and she had no reaction to pain?

I'm happy it was only a soft tissue injury
Please keep us posted and let us know how Jill is doing, she is a beautiful kitty
@Bron and Sheba (GA)

@Deb & Wink
What do you guys think of this
 
I am so sorry for your losses and for the run around you've gotten about Jill.

I would ask your regular vet if s/he would be so kind as to call the emergency clinic (especially if this is an ER your vet recommends) to discuss their diagnosis. That is a HUGE misdiagnosis that could have resulted in an unnecessary surgery or euthanasia. (Personally, I'd be having a discussion with the State veterinary licensing board, but that's me.)

It's certainly possible that stress hyperglycemia would cause blood glucose to be high at the vet's office. However, a fructosamine test is an average of several weeks levels. (It's loosely the same as a hemoglobin A1c in humans.) It would not be within the normal range if your cat was diabetic. I'm hoping that your vet wasn't thinking and forgot that fructosamine reference ranges are not the same as a blood glucose test. Is the copy of the fructosamine test from the outside lab? It should give you what the normal and other ranges are.

Here's what I would do if I were in your shoes. First, get rid of the dry food. The dry food you're using is very high in carbohydrates. If there is any chance of diabetes, the dry food is like giving your kitty cookies and ice cream -- not the diet of choice for any diabetic. Please make sure the Friskies canned food you're using is low in carbs. (I suspect that it is given you've got the food chart developed by Lisa Pierson, DVM. We refer to her webpage and food chart all the time.) You want to use a food that is less than 10% carbs (and most people here use a variety that's about half that percent of carbs). As was suggested, get a glucometer. You can test your cat's glucose levels at home. (You'll see spreadsheets attached to all of our signatures. We all home test.) We can get you the link for the spreadsheet template. The home testing will give you data about just where Jill's blood glucose is at home. Again, we have all sorts of resources to help you master home testing.
 
Hi Belinda and WELCOME. If Jill isnt currently on insulin the FIRST thing I would do is get rid of the dry food. Thats the BEST way to know if changing the diet will keep her numbers down. The second thing I would do is invest in a meter and strips (most meters come with a few strips) The third thing is ketostix to check urine.
I see above Sienne has answered, take her seriously please!

I wanted to extend my condolences to you, for the loss of those you love. My deepest condolences

You've found family here. Please keep us updated on Jills progress. WE CARE!
jeanne
 
So where do I start?

Monday my friend's husband passed away from a stroke.

Tuesday morning one of my close friends died of Bile Duct Cancer (she was 33).

I came home from work Tuesday night when I went to feed Jill I could not find her. After calling her several times she came out from under the bed dragging her left rear leg behind her. I loaded her up and took her to the Emergency Clinic. They took her inside, I couldn't go with her because of this covid pandemic, and brought me paperwork to fill out. About an hour later the Vet called me on my cellphone and told me that he had examined Jill and he was very concerned because she was not reacting to pain stimuli. He stated they had clamped a forcep on her foot and she had no reaction. He stated he believed she had a saddle thrombus and that we may have to make a decision on whether to amputate her leg or put her to sleep but he needed to run some blood work and further test to confirm his diagnosis. A few moments later a Vet Tech arrived with a detailed sheet on what he wanted to do that would cost $1200.00. I explained I could not afford that and asked if they could give her something for the pain to keep her comfortable for the evening until I could take her to the Vet in the morning. He gave her fluids and an injection of Buprenex which cost $211.88.

The next morning (Wednesday) at 7:30 am I got Jill back into her carrier (which she hates), put her in the car (which she hates), and took her to the Vet that takes care of our Min Pin. They again took her from me and explained I could not come into the building and brought me more paperwork. I filled out the paperwork and sit and wait. The Vet Tech brought me a detailed plan of what the doctor wanted to do which I agreed to and they told me that I should go home and the doctor would call me when she had some information. Around 1:00 pm the doctor called and stated that they had done x-rays and a limb study and Jill has a soft tissue injury more than likely from jumping from the dresser, bed or window and landing wrong and that it would heal in 10-14 days and they were going to put her on anti-inflammatory and pain meds, she stated that Jill's labs showed a high glucose reading which could be stress hyperglycemia and she wanted to do another test to verify called a fructosamine to verify. She also let me know that Jill had bitten one of the Vet Techs while doing her x-rays and since her rabies shots were not up to date animal control would be calling me. They stated I could come to pick up Jill at 4:00 pm. We arrived at 4:00 pm and animal control was waiting for us to give us a "ticket" and a bright yellow sign to put on our front door stating "Animal in Quarantine on Premises". The vet techs came out with medication and instructions and then brought Jill out for us to take home.

The next morning (Thursday) my husband called me at work to let me know the doctor had called to let us know that Jill's fructosamine test was back (295) and that she was diabetic and wanted to meet with us Friday afternoon to discuss treatment options (Insulin or put her to sleep). We arrived at the appointment Friday afternoon and the doctor came in and said she had some good news and that we could try changing Jill's diet and check her reading again in four weeks. She gave us the Lisa Pierson, DVM food chart, a journal to document feeding, urine, water intake.

I have been reading on this subject since Thursday morning and I was suspicious since Jill has had none of the symptoms I have read on almost every site on feline diabetes (Increased Appetite, Weight Loss, Excessive Thirst, Increased Urination) but I could not find anything on fructosamine reading. Then I found this site and was hopeful you nice people could help me learn to care for my sick kitty, but now I am wondering if I ever really had anything to worry about.

I pray this next week is kinder.
I am so sorry for your losses and for the run around you've gotten about Jill.

I would ask your regular vet if s/he would be so kind as to call the emergency clinic (especially if this is an ER your vet recommends) to discuss their diagnosis. That is a HUGE misdiagnosis that could have resulted in an unnecessary surgery or euthanasia. (Personally, I'd be having a discussion with the State veterinary licensing board, but that's me.)

It's certainly possible that stress hyperglycemia would cause blood glucose to be high at the vet's office. However, a fructosamine test is an average of several weeks levels. (It's loosely the same as a hemoglobin A1c in humans.) It would not be within the normal range if your cat was diabetic. I'm hoping that your vet wasn't thinking and forgot that fructosamine reference ranges are not the same as a blood glucose test. Is the copy of the fructosamine test from the outside lab? It should give you what the normal and other ranges are.

Here's what I would do if I were in your shoes. First, get rid of the dry food. The dry food you're using is very high in carbohydrates. If there is any chance of diabetes, the dry food is like giving your kitty cookies and ice cream -- not the diet of choice for any diabetic. Please make sure the Friskies canned food you're using is low in carbs. (I suspect that it is given you've got the food chart developed by Lisa Pierson, DVM. We refer to her webpage and food chart all the time.) You want to use a food that is less than 10% carbs (and most people here use a variety that's about half that percent of carbs). As was suggested, get a glucometer. You can test your cat's glucose levels at home. (You'll see spreadsheets attached to all of our signatures. We all home test.) We can get you the link for the spreadsheet template. The home testing will give you data about just where Jill's blood glucose is at home. Again, we have all sorts of resources to help you master home testing.


Hi Jill,

I just also want to say that I’m so very sorry for everything you’ve been going through these last few weeks. It’s a lot and it’s certainly a heavy toll emotionally. My hearts goes out to you, but it does sound like the worst part may be over.

I agree with everything @Sienne and Gabby (GA) said, including contacting the State veterinary licensing board online. It’s easy I had to do it when my late cate was also grossly misdiagnosed. You write up everything attach the paperwork from the ER and mail it to them. Even if kitty is not diabetic, get rid of the dry food. I did that a few years back before Minnie was diagnosed because my vet at the time explained wet food is simply less fattening and dry is like a human eating crackers all day. Just so you know, both my cats adjusted fine to the transition.

I second the idea of getting a meter and testing her at home. Minnies fructose test year was only regular after her diabetes was controlled and she was already on insulin so chances are very good with all the misdiagnosis you’re dealing with that she is not diabetic. And to avoid more expensive vet trips, you could check once or twice a day for a few days and the folks here will help you interpret the numbers you get. Walmart’s ReliOn is used by most here and the most economical by far. You can get the meter for $9.99 and 50 test strips to get you started will probably also be around that price. The lancets are less than $2 and again, we will all guide you on how to do it. Trust me I was terrified and now it’s a piece of cake and part of our routine. But again, if she’s not diabetic you will only do it a few times and be done with it. The other huge plus of home testing her is that it sounds like she gets very stressed out at the vet and at home she won’t be. The numbers can be higher when the cat is stressed at the vet and so by testing her at home you’ll be getting the correct picture.

please keep us posted and sending you strength and lot of positive thoughts! :bighug:
 
I want to thank each and every one of you for responding and caring about my Jill. She is still limping today but seems to feel much better.

I honestly do not believe she has diabetes from everything I have read and all the information ya'll have provided but I am still going to change her diet and try to become a more responsible owner so she and I hopefully never have to go through this again.

I will be back to post more later I am still trying to recover from this very trying week.

Much Love
Belinda
 

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I want to thank each and every one of you for responding and caring about my Jill. She is still limping today but seems to feel much better.

I honestly do not believe she has diabetes from everything I have read and all the information ya'll have provided but I am still going to change her diet and try to become a more responsible owner so she and I hopefully never have to go through this again.

I will be back to post more later I am still trying to recover from this very trying week.

Much Love
Belinda
She’s an angel. Much love to both of you. Keep us posted please!!! :bighug:
 
My Jill was diagnosed as diabetic this past week after being taken to the vet with a leg injury. Jill is 9 years old and a little dainty thing. She weighed in at 13 pounds and her fructosamine count was 296. We are doing a 4-week diet change and rechecking her levels at that time.

My question: Is there any DRY food we can give cats on a diabetic diet? Jill loves her dry food. She doesn't eat a lot but does graze throughout the day.

I have found this site very informative and look forward to meeting and making new friends that are experiencing what I am.

Belinda
Hi Belinda I’m new here too but learning so much from this group. My cat was just diagnosed last week . She ate dry food all her life , I really did not know better and thought it would benefit her teeth . Her count was 479 after 6 days it’s now at 257 . I took her dry food away immediately and she is having a bit of a hard time with the wet food . She has not finished a can as of yet but we keep trying . Can I ask what wet food are you feeding her ? My Dusty has turned her nose up at a few ahhhh Kitties just have to Love and laugh with them. Nice to meet you and Jill Roe
 
Oh my goodness, you have had a terrible week. I am so sorry for your losses and the runaround you have been given with Jill. That is really quite appalling that both vet places could make such big, life changing errors like that with Jill’s diagnosis.
I hope the coming weeks are kinder to you And that Jills leg heals and you get good news on the diabetes front.
Please keep us posted.
 
I am lucky that Jill was already eating the Friskie Pate twice a day. Her favorite is fish and seafood but she will eat the others. I have also bought the Fancy Feast fish flavors and she likes those. She isn't eating a lot right now I think that is because of the Gabapentine. And she does not understand where her dry food has gone. :(


Hi Belinda I’m new here too but learning so much from this group. My cat was just diagnosed last week . She ate dry food all her life , I really did not know better and thought it would benefit her teeth . Her count was 479 after 6 days it’s now at 257 . I took her dry food away immediately and she is having a bit of a hard time with the wet food . She has not finished a can as of yet but we keep trying . Can I ask what wet food are you feeding her ? My Dusty has turned her nose up at a few ahhhh Kitties just have to Love and laugh with them. Nice to meet you and Jill Roe
 
I am uploading all of Jill's Medical Files from last week for ya'll to view. At this point I trust all of you more than I do any veterinarian I have spoken to in the past week.
 

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One thing that was mentioned several times in the paperwork you uploaded is that Jill is obese. So she needs to eat less food. Portion control will be important to help you with this goal. Fortunately, the canned food has fewer calories than the dry food, and wet food is more filling, so that will help with the weight loss.

You can add some water to the canned food, to help fill Jill up. Think thick soup like consistency like split pea soup, to an even thinner soup like consistency.

So one question is, how much does your vet think Jill should weigh? What is her ideal weight? 10 pounds? 11 pounds?

You want to do a slow but gradual weight loss. Too much weight loss at one time, can be as bad as too much weight in the first place.

How much you want to bet she bit the vet tech because the tech had a poor hold on her, and probably bumped her leg that was painful?

The glucose level was high. That could have been caused by 1. Vet stress 2. reaction to the pain 3. diabetes. A combination of any or all 3 of these causes.
It's possible that Jill is in the beginning stages of diabetes. Her weight is a concern if that is the case, since fat cells do not process the insulin as well. Her body may still be making some insulin on it's own. Best thing to do for her, is to put her on a diet.

Jill does have glucose in her urine. That can have multiple causes as well, such as infection/inflammation. Simply having the blood glucose be a bit high, means the kidneys will filter out the excess sugars and dump them into the urine. Urine glucose on it's own is not diagnostic of feline diabetes.

You can recheck the urine yourself pretty easily, with urine ketone test strips, available at any pharmacy. The tricky part is usually collecting the fresh urine sample at home. We have tips if you are interested.

I'm no good at interpreting any of the other bloodwork. But some of the blood work is elevated enough that there may be some sort of infection or inflammation going on.

Most diabetic cats will lose quite a bit of weight before they are diagnosed. It's so gradual, that a cat could have lost several pounds before it becomes obvious. Weight loss is often one of the symptoms that pet owners notice, and take their cat in for an exam, because of the weight loss. Excess water intake and excess peeing, or peeing larger puddles in the litter box are also early symptoms. Later symptoms include greasy hair coat, dandruff, loss of grooming, lethargy, ravenous appetite, diabetic neuropathy.
 
Jill is feeling a lot better and her limp has almost healed completely.
Great news for Jill!!!!:bighug::bighug::bighug:

She’s such a pretty lady! And it looks like she has a sibling..?

did you get a chance to read Deb’s reply? If you can answer her questions, it will be easier for her to guide you. Also, we “like” replies/comments to let the member know we read it and didn’t miss it :)

Thanks!
 
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