? Need Dosing Advice for this AM shot

Deb & Wink said:
With Prozinc, you can stall for up to 1 hour and still keep to your regular shot schedule. It's a bit more forgiving on changing shot times than the depot type insulin s like lantus and levemir.

Ramirez is still bouncing pretty high. So keep the 3U dose for now.

Is Ramirez still eating the high carb dry food?
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He's been off dry food for almost 2 months now. He's on fussie cat tuna & salmon now, I picked that brand cause it looked like it had the lowest carbs on the food spreadsheet.
 
Deb & Wink said:
Your note on 2/13 in the Remarks column says you gave him a bit of dry food.
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Yes, just to slow his decline down. It hasn't been a part of his diet otherwise and I didn't feed him any more after that night. He's having a pretty steep decline again tonight so I gave him some higher carb wet food this time, but after checking your write-up again I see that it can sometimes depend on the pre-shot number. I'm wondering if it's ever okay to see a 50% drop @ +2 from higher numbers like his 454 PMPS tonight or if it's just as bad as if it happened at a lower pre-shot number?
 
Chin said:
Yes, just to slow his decline down. It hasn't been a part of his diet otherwise and I didn't feed him any more after that night. He's having a pretty steep decline again tonight so I gave him some higher carb wet food this time, but after checking your write-up again I see that it can sometimes depend on the pre-shot number. I'm wondering if it's ever okay to see a 50% drop @ +2 from higher numbers like his 454 PMPS tonight or if it's just as bad as if it happened at a lower pre-shot number?
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Chin, i will let @Deb & Wink answer your question, i will just tell you that a 50% drop in BG happens to Chico almost every second cycle that is not a bounce, with Caninsulin it was happening even more often, i don't think it is "normal" but it is happening sometimes. Our goal is to flatten the curve, smoother drops after the insulin shot.

You did a great job catching his +2. I think rather than the lower pre shot value caused it, it is the bounce clearing off, that's why this cycle is active - the preshot value seems to indicate that the bounce was clearing.

Keep in mind that not always a black preshot means not an active cycle
 
If your cat tends to really drop fast around +2, which is when Prozinc usually kicks into action, then try feeding a small amount of food at +1 and/or +2 to slow that drop. "Steering" the cycle.
You did a little bit of steering last night, by feeding Ramirez at +3.
Next time, try reaching for his regular low carb wet food first, to see if that helps to slow the drop.
You'll have to experiment a bit to find what works better for your cat.

LC first, then MC, then HC food is the general sequence.
Chin said:
I'm wondering if it's ever okay to see a 50% drop @ +2 from higher numbers like his 454 PMPS tonight or if it's just as bad as if it happened at a lower pre-shot number?
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Too much of a drop from ANY pre-shot number early in the cycle means you need to keep a closer eye on the cycle. Steering the cycle with some food can help too.

I think the black BG this morning was a bounce from those "lower than his body is used to" BG levels last night. In other words, he's bouncing.
 
Deb & Wink said:
If your cat tends to really drop fast around +2, which is when Prozinc usually kicks into action, then try feeding a small amount of food at +1 and/or +2 to slow that drop. "Steering" the cycle.
You did a little bit of steering last night, by feeding Ramirez at +3.
Next time, try reaching for his regular low carb wet food first, to see if that helps to slow the drop.
You'll have to experiment a bit to find what works better for your cat.

LC first, then MC, then HC food is the general sequence.

Too much of a drop from ANY pre-shot number early in the cycle means you need to keep a closer eye on the cycle. Steering the cycle with some food can help too.

I think the black BG this morning was a bounce from those "lower than his body is used to" BG levels last night. In other words, he's bouncing.
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Super helpful info, thanks! Will try the LC food first next time.
 
Would you please start a new thread for Ramirez? We like to keep them to 50 posts or less.

Link this old thread in at the top of your new thread. Thanks.
 
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