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for the past week or so, Murphy has been getting more grumpy at test time, growling and swatting at me this afternoon after I was finished, he lunged for my arm and bit hard What's the best way to 1) let him know that is not ok and keep him from doing it again Nothing like this has happened with any of my cats or even him, previously
I washed it very thoroughly and disinfected the wound - I'll watch it closely as cat bites are not good news
 
Carol & Murphy said:
for the past week or so, Murphy has been getting more grumpy at test time, growling and swatting at me this afternoon after I was finished, he lunged for my arm and bit hard What's the best way to 1) let him know that is not ok and keep him from doing it again Nothing like this has happened with any of my cats or even him, previously
I washed it very thoroughly and disinfected the wound - I'll watch it closely as cat bites are not good news
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Bubba is doing the same thing with testing. About 2 weeks ago he decided not to like them and he tries to bite me as well. I sometimes have to get him in a 1/2 Nelson to get the blood drop onto the test strip. I feel your pain....Are you giving him a poke treat prior? I started doing that again so it keeps him busier while I poke but he still get belligerent with me. :banghead:
 
Last time a cat bit me I ended that issue by biting them back! Now mind you I did it the instant they did it, did not even really look at it just bit him and that never happened again.
 
Julia Rae said:
Last time a cat bit me I ended that issue by biting them back! Now mind you I did it the instant they did it, did not even really look at it just bit him and that never happened again.
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how did you bite the cat? where did you bite the cat? Im not saying I am going to do this, but I am curious
 
Bobbie And Bubba said:
Bubba is doing the same thing with testing. About 2 weeks ago he decided not to like them and he tries to bite me as well. I sometimes have to get him in a 1/2 Nelson to get the blood drop onto the test strip. I feel your pain....Are you giving him a poke treat prior? I started doing that again so it keeps him busier while I poke but he still get belligerent with me. :banghead:
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bubba and Murphy really do have a lot in common giving a treat before is a good idea what is a 1/2 Nelson, Bobbie?
 
Sorry you're having problems with Murphy. I don't have any advice on how to stop him from biting. I've been bit plenty of times, but always by a feral or cornered cat. Maybe start desensitizing him, like we tell people who are starting out. Throughout the day, go to the test site, just pet, then treat. Maybe add an ear rub, but no test. Try to get both of you more relaxed.
 
Sharon14 said:
Sorry you're having problems with Murphy. I don't have any advice on how to stop him from biting. I've been bit plenty of times, but always by a feral or cornered cat. Maybe start desensitizing him, like we tell people who are starting out. Throughout the day, go to the test site, just pet, then treat. Maybe add an ear rub, but no test. Try to get both of you more relaxed.
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After all these months To quote John Lennon "It'll be just like starting over"
 
Sharon14 said:
Sorry you're having problems with Murphy. I don't have any advice on how to stop him from biting. I've been bit plenty of times, but always by a feral or cornered cat. Maybe start desensitizing him, like we tell people who are starting out. Throughout the day, go to the test site, just pet, then treat. Maybe add an ear rub, but no test. Try to get both of you more relaxed.
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Glad to see the lower number in the SS, Sharon
 
I tested Murphy a few hours later (with his face in front of a plate of food) and while he didn't bite me, he growled and hissed. I am using the 33 gauge lancets, and frequently I can do those and he doesn't even seem to know I am poking. If this continues, it will be hard for me to test so often
 
Sorry to hear that Murphy and Bubba are protesting their test pokes so much lately. That would be hard to deal with, you don't want to hurt them or get hurt, but you have to test! Frustrating for sure! :banghead: I was just thinking today how lucky I am that Rupert is so good about his tests and shots, especially the last few days, since I have been poking him a lot. He will sometimes try to get away, but usually will lie still till I am done. Course he knows he is getting fed or a treat and Rupert is ALL about the food! Sharon had some good advice, hang in there and we will be sending nice kitty vibes! :bighug:
 
Carol & Murphy said:
What did the vet say Bobbie?
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The new vet is very nice, spent about 40 minutes talking to me. She was very supportive of me testing with human glucometer and said I would make her job easier with keeping the SS. I emailed it to her and she said if I ever need any advice with dosing to call the office and ask them to tell her to look at the SS. I liked that she was availing herself to me. She doesn't think it's time to switch to depot insulin yet, which makes me happy, ( I just priced Lantus at Walmart, whew!!!) She read over all of BJM's vet interview notes and answered each one with out any attitude what so ever. I believe she is a good fit for us. I liked her a lot. She also did a sterile catch urine to rule out that he doesn't have a low grade infection keeping him from going past the 200 range as of lately. She is also going to check for ketones. ( wow, those urine test were expensive! ) His urine was almost clear indicating drinking lots of water indicative of a unregulated cat. It will be interesting to see how every the test come back in three days. Thanks for asking Carol.
 
So glad you like the new vet! That makes things so much easier when you have a vet you can trust. I know the tests are expensive, but it's good to get them so you can rule out the infection.

As for the price of Lantus, don't let that worry you if you ever need to change. It actually cost about the same as ProZinc because it's a u100 insulin, so you'd use less. Also you can get it cheap from Canada. That's probably where I'll start getting my Lev.
 
Yikes Murphy's pmps was 615 Its never ever been that high He has been so irritable this afternoon - bit me and then threw up three times right before I tested (I'm hoping that is why his bg was so high) I think he threw up from having an empty stomach - he does that sometimes I have to go out to town for the day tomorrow so of course this couldn't come at a worse time
 
What a rotten day, Carol. No chance he has an infection or is feeling bad? I am just talking out of my hat but an ear infection could make his ears sensitive. What do you think about a vet visit? The only idea I have for the biting is, as Sharon said, taking him to the testing spot and just give him a snack and play with his ears and let him go in between the testing. Also, there are 31 gauge lancets. I don't think it likely that he'd start reacting to the ones you've been using, but I guess it is worth a try.
 
Sharon14 said:
So glad you like the new vet! That makes things so much easier when you have a vet you can trust. I know the tests are expensive, but it's good to get them so you can rule out the infection.

As for the price of Lantus, don't let that worry you if you ever need to change. It actually cost about the same as ProZinc because it's a u100 insulin, so you'd use less. Also you can get it cheap from Canada. That's probably where I'll start getting my Lev.
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Two urine test were 250 bucks!
 
So sorry Carol that now Murphy's BG is so high and he is not feeling well. :( I know you will worry since you have to go out of town, but hopefully he will feel more like himself tomorrow.
Hope tomorrow is a better day for you both. :bighug:
 
It's like wire, if that helps. The lower the number, the bigger the hole. The higher the number, the smaller the hole. Thus, humans use the 31 gauge as they bleed easier.

Bobbie, I am so glad you found a good FD vet. Sorry about the cost, but love that she likes hometesting and the SS.
 
On a positive note, glad you have found a cooperative and good vet, Bobbie! She sounds like she is open to what you are doing and plans to be involved in Bubba's treatment. Very happy for you! Well, except for the hit on your pocket book..whew, the vet's are sure getting high! :confused: Sharon is right about the Lev or Lantus, you do use less and most Target's will sell one pen. I am going to check into buying from Canada also. Does anyone know if we really have to fill out all that paper work I found on the forum? I read a lot of Canadian pharmacies won't sell prescription drugs to the US anymore, due to some new policies. I think they just can't stand that we are getting our meds cheaper from Canada and want to stop it! It's a crying shame we have to resort to buying medicine from another country due to the high price here. Shameful. Ok, done ranting for today, but this subject gets me riled up! :mad:
 
Sharon14 said:
Yow!:nailbiting: I guess it will be worth it if it helps Bubba. When will you know the results?
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probably Friday because of Thanksgiving.
Sue and Oliver (GA) said:
It's like wire, if that helps. The lower the number, the bigger the hole. The higher the number, the smaller the hole. Thus, humans use the 31 gauge as they bleed easier.

Bobbie, I am so glad you found a good FD vet. Sorry about the cost, but love that she likes hometesting and the SS.
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She isn't considered a FD vet but her interests lie in internal medicine. She would be happy if we could get him to low 200's preshots with a blue nadir. I want greens above 50 ;)
 
Sue and Oliver (GA) said:
What a rotten day, Carol. No chance he has an infection or is feeling bad? I am just talking out of my hat but an ear infection could make his ears sensitive. What do you think about a vet visit? The only idea I have for the biting is, as Sharon said, taking him to the testing spot and just give him a snack and play with his ears and let him go in between the testing. Also, there are 31 gauge lancets. I don't think it likely that he'd start reacting to the ones you've been using, but I guess it is worth a try.
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I actually have started using the 31 or 33 gauge and as I said, sometimes he is not even aware I am poking him. he is not peeing pooping or doing anything abnormal eating like crazy - I gave him Young Again in addition to wet because he wanted that His ears have no evidence of infection. I noticed a few sniffles but no discharge or sneezing - maybe he has a headache!! I will check him before I go to bed, and if he isn't right tomorrow I will once again postpone my trip (he has done an excellent job in ensuring I can never go anywhere) and see about a vet visit If one of my bite wounds doesn't improve by tomorrow, I will need a medical visit as well !!
 
Carol & Murphy said:
I actually have started using the 31 or 33 gauge and as I said, sometimes he is not even aware I am poking him. he is not peeing pooping or doing anything abnormal eating like crazy - I gave him Young Again in addition to wet because he wanted that His ears have no evidence of infection. I noticed a few sniffles but no discharge or sneezing - maybe he has a headache!! I will check him before I go to bed, and if he isn't right tomorrow I will once again postpone my trip (he has done an excellent job in ensuring I can never go anywhere) and see about a vet visit If one of my bite wounds doesn't improve by tomorrow, I will need a medical visit as well !!
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Wow Carol, did he get you that bad that he drew blood? Did you make the mistake of bringing out your suitcase? My cat Sug, GA, use to act out as soon as she saw the suitcase. These cats.......I sure hope he settles down and you get resolution asap.
 
Definitely keep a close eye on that bite wound, Carol!

I'm so sorry Murphy is acting upset. I know that makes you upset too. I'd say maybe a quick vet visit to just make sure all is well couldn't hurt. Beyond that...I'll brainstorm but I doubt I'll come up with anything besides what others have suggested about treats and love at the testing spot.

Hang in there!
 
Bobbie And Bubba said:
Wow Carol, did he get you that bad that he drew blood? Did you make the mistake of bringing out your suitcase? My cat Sug, GA, use to act out as soon as she saw the suitcase. These cats.......I sure hope he settles down and you get resolution asap.
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oh yes, he drew blood in several spots it was a surprisingly deliberate deep bite I am a fanatic about cleaning wounds like this very well - its probably just reacting to the tissue damage No suitcase - just a two hour drive - just able to catch him peeing - no ketones, no blood or leukocytes or nitrite in urine I know I didn't give him enough insulin (2.5 units) but I didn't want to rock the boat too much
 
Rachel said:
I'm so sorry Murphy is acting upset. I know that makes you upset too. I'd say maybe a quick vet visit to just make sure all is well couldn't hurt.
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If this type of biting is not normally the kind of behavior you see from him, it could be that something's going on that can't be detected by the tests you can do @ home ... But it's up to you, as you know him better than we do; maybe just watch for any other unusual behaviors? (Maybe he was just having a very-bad-mood kind of day.)

So sorry Murphy's not feeling well, Carol ... and that he bit you so hard! I hope your hand heals up without a hitch. (Ouch!) Sending many healing vibes to both of you!!! :bighug:
 
Thanks Rachel - yes, I am watching him closely - he has been growling and threatening me during testing for a week or two now - this is the very first bite So I have news for him - he's not the only one in a bad mood now :banghead: I don't think he will ever be regulated because as beautiful his numbers looked just a week or so ago, they can vanish like this - I really hope this is resolved soon I appreciate everyone's support
 
Carol & Murphy said:
oh yes, he drew blood in several spots it was a surprisingly deliberate deep bite I am a fanatic about cleaning wounds like this very well - its probably just reacting to the tissue damage No suitcase - just a two hour drive - just able to catch him peeing - no ketones, no blood or leukocytes or nitrite in urine I know I didn't give him enough insulin (2.5 units) but I didn't want to rock the boat too much
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I am so sorry he got you like that. Sending lots of hugs :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
Bobbie And Bubba said:
The new vet is very nice, spent about 40 minutes talking to me. She was very supportive of me testing with human glucometer and said I would make her job easier with keeping the SS. I emailed it to her and she said if I ever need any advice with dosing to call the office and ask them to tell her to look at the SS. I liked that she was availing herself to me. She doesn't think it's time to switch to depot insulin yet, which makes me happy, ( I just priced Lantus at Walmart, whew!!!) She read over all of BJM's vet interview notes and answered each one with out any attitude what so ever. I believe she is a good fit for us. I liked her a lot. She also did a sterile catch urine to rule out that he doesn't have a low grade infection keeping him from going past the 200 range as of lately. She is also going to check for ketones. ( wow, those urine test were expensive! ) His urine was almost clear indicating drinking lots of water indicative of a unregulated cat. It will be interesting to see how every the test come back in three days. Thanks for asking Carol.
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I'm looking forward to the test results too, because I've been feeling "something unseen" has been going on with Bubba since his surgery. But hoping the tests come back negative. I don't mind being wrong, lol. Glad you have a good feeling about the vet!
 
Carol & Murphy said:
I actually have started using the 31 or 33 gauge and as I said, sometimes he is not even aware I am poking him. he is not peeing pooping or doing anything abnormal eating like crazy - I gave him Young Again in addition to wet because he wanted that His ears have no evidence of infection. I noticed a few sniffles but no discharge or sneezing - maybe he has a headache!! I will check him before I go to bed, and if he isn't right tomorrow I will once again postpone my trip (he has done an excellent job in ensuring I can never go anywhere) and see about a vet visit If one of my bite wounds doesn't improve by tomorrow, I will need a medical visit as well !!
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I think a vet visit makes sense Carol. His numbers the past few cycles are strange. I can wrap my head around the few days before that when you had low AMPS and high PMPS. To me, that just looks like overlap, and they followed a pattern for three days. The last 5 cycles, I'm not seeing a pattern other than yucky numbers. His attitude matches the yucky numbers it seems.
 
Aww, Carol, so sorry Murphy is feeling crappy and taking it out on you. We all feel for you and him. Get some rest and be sure to keep a close watch on that bite. Best of luck if you do take him to the vet. :bighug:
 
Carl & Polly & Bob (GA) said:
I'm looking forward to the test results too, because I've been feeling "something unseen" has been going on with Bubba since his surgery. But hoping the tests come back negative. I don't mind being wrong, lol. Glad you have a good feeling about the vet!
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Thanks Carl, I am glad too that I went for the two urine tests to rule out anything. It's the kind of thing where you don't know if you want something to be there or not, lol. If there is, hopefully an easy and quick fix.

Sorry about highjacking your thread again, Carol. It seems like your house is where we all like to hang out!
 
Carol & Murphy said:
Happily Murphy is a normal (for him) 356 this am - - got through the test ok with just a quick swat at me - my bite wound is so/so
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Glad to see Murphy's AMPS is down again.
About those bites: Carol, please: If you start seeing any additional redness spreading out from the wound sites - get in to have them looked at, stat!:bighug:
 
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