Mo’s condition worsening

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Hello!

You’re getting a lot of support and great ideas here. If you start home testing, I bet with the help of the board you can get his diabetes managed and he will feel a whole lot better. My cat has diabetes and kidney disease and a host of other issues, some are in my signature. But most of the time, she is feeling pretty good! These things can be managed and just because it seems like it’s really bad right now, does not always mean it’s dire.

There are 2 types of B12 and they are both good, but for different things. Methylcobalamin B12 is the one you want for neuropathy. It is in zobaline along with folic acid. I don’t use zobaline myself, but many people here have with great results, I get an injectable methyl B12 from a compounding pharmacy. Here’s a link for zobaline:

https://www.amazon.com/ZobalineTM-Diabetic-Cats-60-tabs/dp/B008G3LI2M/?tag=felinediabetesfdmb-20

If Mo is peeing outside of the litter box, it could be an indication of a urinary tract infection, cats with diabetes and kidney disease are highly prone to them, I would have your vet do a urine culture in addition to the blood work and see if that leads anywhere. My Asia has a UTI right now, her symptom: she started peeing herself in her sleep almost daily for an entire week. I got her on some antibiotics and day 3 onwards, no pee pee pants! have this waterproof but plush pad on my bed where she sleeps and it has saved me from doing a lot more laundry if it weren’t there:

https://www.amazon.com/Waterproof-W...ence/dp/B00CX6JAUK/?tag=felinediabetesfdmb-20
 
Mel & Mo said:
Well I’m discouraged. I made an appointment at a different vet for Friday morning. Going to get bloodwork. My bed is soaked in pee constantly. I’ve been sleeping on the couch , tired of scrubbing my mattress.
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Like mentioned above, it's a good idea to rule out a UTI but I wanted to share my experience with my non-diabetic cat, Toby. He started having horrible bathroom habits, peeing on carpet, in sinks, on our shoes/clothes, couch, ect. He basically ruined our house. I feel so bad about your bed because I know how horrible it is (we have found vinegar to be the best at getting out the smell btw). We spent a fortune at the vet as this went on for awhile, on and off for years really. They eventually suggested a 'sex change' to see if it helped him, which we did not do. Instead, we started adding water to his canned food, making it nice and soupy. It was really a miracle for him. That whole time, he had just been dehydrated. I think male cats are more prone to dehydration, and with unregulated diabetes, it would make it even worse. Dehydration can cause inflammation which makes it painful to pee, similar to UTI pain but no infection (however it does make the environment more friendly for an infection to occur).

I'm really sorry for what you're going through with Mo and I am crossing my fingers that he comes through a much healthier guy. He is very lucky to have you!
 
My civvie Monty, at our old place that was carpeted, was VERY toilet inappropriate. No UTIs but he just didn't like any litter boxes and even when we had 4 boxes for our 2 kitties, 90% of the time overnight, he would pee AND poop on the carpet in the living room and hallway.

Ever since he was a baby he favoured soft coverings. Bath mat. Our bed (groan). It was not a habit that could be broken. We kept the bedroom door closed for a year and then tried it open again and within one day, our bed was wet. He just prefers it.

So now where we live is all tiles apart from the bedrooms, and those doors are closed. A handful of times he somehow managed to get in and either had pee'd on the bed or a particular section of carpet. But apart from that, he's been perfect and uses his litter well. Oh, except one time he got into the soft fabric laundry basket, knocked it over, crawled in and pee'd on the clothes. lol. We now have a nice new firm top one and all is well.

Sorry to hijack the thread. I just understand how it feels to have to yet AGAIN take your quilt to the dry cleaners, or to have literally your entire carpeted house stained yellow.
 
Hi!!! I’m so upset and sorry I haven’t gotten back. I’ve been going through so much, just rereading everything and don’t even remember how Mo got better, urinating on the bed that is but was ok for awhile. I had some issues with my dog, he went missing and was found with a broken jaw and lacerated tendons in his leg.. Long story there , surgery everything is fine now and some major depression, fun stuff!!So Mo has been up and down and I discovered from the second to last vet he had an infection and she gave him a 2 week antibiotic shot? I’m not sure what that is, told me to come back in a week then it was 3 with all the chaos. He started doing good again til about a week ago he’s got drool hanging from his mouth and his chin is a little swollen. Could it be maybe a tooth infection? I went back and that vet had moved and this new person a non for profit place I go to was sooo rude I was horrified., she dismissed everything I said wouldn’t check his teeth and did a thyroid test which I said he didn’t need. Atleast all his organs are ok. That’s the only good thing, I think anyway so she says. I did get a copy of his bw.It’s like I can’t do anything right. She gave him oral antibiotics which he hates of course and is mad at me.One day he’s ok then he goes downhill. I know the only way is to test myself. I don’t know if I even can. I’m sure I can but I’m mad I didnt do it earlier. And what the numbers even mean. I also told her I was almost out of prozinc and she switched to lantus. She didn’t know much of anything this one and says do 2 units. He was on 2 before but sometimes I don’t give him any cause he seems worse but now I know that’s prob screwing him up more.. I was ready to put him down that day I swear he’s never been great again .He list 4 more lbs this month. She actually said did he get hurt outside or something about his legs , It’s his neurapathy, and told her all about it, his hind legs and she still says that? Smh I He’s obviously not regulated and I don’t know if I can do it. I feel I failed him miserably and I’ve spent all my savings and about to lose my home. I just started.zobaline only 3 mg crushed in his fancy feast and I stopped the dry all together. I don’t want to go back to another vet. Can I use the lantus? I gave him his last one yesterday because he acted horribly later that night and especially this morning before I went to work.
I’m sorry I lose touch but my life has been pretty crappy but it’s gotta keep going. I did this tms treatment for depression, $350 a session at 36 sessions! Yeah I’m broke but it does work!!!! My insurance didn’t cover it but atleast I’m here and able to deal. Thank you as always for listening and giving me and Mo the best advice! We love you for it! Mo hates me but I love you lol
 
Mel & Mo said:
he’s got drool hanging from his mouth and his chin is a little swollen. Could it be maybe a tooth infection?
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Absolutely! My Willow started drooling, and her chin looked 'puffy'/swollen. I had never seen this with any of my cats before. I took her to a dental specialist who ended up having to remove both of her upper canines due to resorption (she has a history of issues with that), and the one on the side where she had been drooling was REALLY bad when he took it out. He could not tell from the x-ray that it was going to be that bad. It was infected and had gone into her nasal passage. Apparently, it looked pretty scary. He was concerned and sent off tissue and bone for a biopsy. Thank goodness, no tumor cells were found. We have a follow up appointment Tuesday for him to make sure she has healed up okay, and I will have him explain the findings to me since the report is way too full of medical terms for me to fully understand it.

I'm sorry you have been having such a hard time. Mo doesn't hate you, he is just annoyed with you for doing things he doesn't want you to, but it's for his own good. I hope things turn around for you. :bighug:

UPDATE: I want to mention that, at first, the dental specialist said there was only about a 20% chance the drooling was coming from a tooth issue. He said that more often than not that is related to nausea. So, something to consider. (That was before he opened things up and saw how bad this particular tooth was.)
 
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