Meet Warren (again)

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Not closely, last time I measured was probably a week ago (it's noted in the spreadsheet). I gave him 0.5 about 15 minutes ago and since I can't measure another 0.25 accurately I'll start 0.75 tomorrow am. Warren and I thank you for all the help you've been.
 
If you'd like, you can start posting in the Lantus forum. There are many very experienced Lantus users there to give feedback when I'm not around.
 
Generally, 3/10 mL syringes are more likely to have half unit markings (I get mine from WalMart and all their ReliOn 3/10 U-100 syringes have half unit markings - they also have online ordering). If you can't tell by the product descriptions ay ADW, call them and they'll help you out.
 
Ok thanks, my ulticare 3/10ths don't. I need some more relion test strips anyway so will give Walmart a shot.
 
Hi bjm, I'd really value your input. I'm unfortunately not getting very much support from the lantus board and my wife and I are now butting heads. She's tired of Warren using the kitchen as a litter box a couple of times a week when there is a real litter box in the bathroom a few feet away from where he is peeing. She wants him put to sleep. He still has not stabilized and he's been on lantus a month now. I'm afraid I may have very little time left before I'm given an ultimatum. I can do another curve if that might help but it seems we don't have another choice in dosage. He drops too low if I go up, but at .75 his readings are all over the place. Thanks.
 
Perhaps you should try posting in the main health forum with a title that better describes your current predicament. It may get more views than on here. Include links to this post and the one in the lantus forum. I hope you can work it out!

You could try adding another litter box somewhere else in the house.
 
For right now, pick up some tarps or medical bedpads to place where he has had accidents, to make clean up easier.
For cleaning, first remove all solids, then blot up all liquids. Use an enzyme based cleaner to treat all areas as directed on the packaging. I like Simple Solution.
 
Thanks guys, I'll try the other forum as you suggested. Cleaning is not an option, my wife will not entertain any further accidents. She has sentenced Warren to live in the bathroom but her patience is thin with that as well. That's where she does laundry. I added another litter box a month ago, it's literally 5 feet away from where he's been peeing. He uses the box fine when he is in the bathroom and has never had an accident in the bathroom. I already purchased enzyme based cleaner (bought some stuff with 4.5* with 2100 reviews on Amazon).

I just don't see what else I can possibly do with the Lantus. At what point is it time to say Lantus is never going to work properly and it's time to try Lenevir or something else?
 
Urinating outside the box can also be indicative of some other problem. Could he be over anxious? If so maybe a pheromone collar or defusers might help.
 
Other than his diabetes, the vet gave him a clean bill of health after full lab workups a month ago. He doesn't seem anxious at all, he seems his happy normal self. If it wasn't for the peeing, I'd think he was completely healthy. He bathes himself, he plays with toys, he purrs all the time, his coat is soft and shiny. But his blood sugar levels are all over the place from day to day. If not for my taking readings, I wouldn't even guess that was an issue. I'm willing to try anything though. I initially thought the peeing was because he was drinking so much he couldn't hold it, but with the litter box 5' away, that doesn't seem like it would be the case. He has never had any issues in his 15 years with behavior and marking his territory. I'll read up about pheromone collars, hopefully it won't freak out the other cats.
 
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Other than his diabetes, the vet gave him a clean bill of health after full lab workups a month ago. He doesn't seem anxious at all, he seems his happy normal self. If it wasn't for the peeing, I'd think he was completely healthy. He bathes himself, he plays with toys, he purrs all the time, his coat is soft and shiny. But his blood sugar levels are all over the place from day to day. If not for my taking readings, I wouldn't even guess that was an issue. I'm willing to try anything though. I initially thought the peeing was because he was drinking so much he couldn't hold it, but with the litter box 5' away, that doesn't seem like it would be the case. He has never had any issues in his 15 years with behavior and marking his territory. I'll read up about pheromone collars, hopefully it won't freak out the other cats.
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I'm just trying to think of any other possibility you may have overlooked.
 
I appreciate that. I'd hate to have Warren meet his maker for overlooking something obvious.
 
Did the vet do a cystocentesis to check the urine for crystals or an x-ray to look for stones?
 
I provided a fresh urine sample which was tested for various things. I'll see if they can provide me with specifics as to what was tested. My thought was that the peeing was related to the diabetes not being regulated and was hoping by now it would be regulated and either the peeing would stop or we could eliminate the possibility of it being the diabetes causing it.
 
It has to be cystocentesis. If you do a free catch at home, it can very easily get contaminated between the litter box and the lab. When they do cystocentesis, they are able to get a sterile sample so if bacteria shows up, they know it's from him and not from contamination.
 
Hi there,
I know I'm getting in on the end of the convo, but regarding kitty (Warren?) peeing outside the litter box, I have a 2 kitties who do similar things. For one of my kitties, the vet thinks it may be due to old age (arthritis) as well as a territory thing. The other one (my diabetic kitty), periodically sits on the litter box the opposite way (rear facing outside the litter box as opposed to rear facing in)...
Both kitties have been checked out. My diabetic kitty did have a UTI, however, he's always done this even before he was diagnosed with diabetes. And, his UTI is now gone. My non-diabetic kitty goes pee 1-3 feet outside the litter box. To address this issue, I put down those dog wee wee training pads around the litter box. These absorb up to 6 liters of fluid and work great as they have a plastic liner on the bottom. My other kitty also has a tendency (when using the litter box) to crouch on the edge of the litter box, with his rear facing outside of the litter box (thus he misses the litter box completely and pees just outside the litter box). Thus, these doggy wee wee pads come in handy. Perhaps they will help Warren as well!? Just a thought... BJM, Rhiannon and Shadow, Marje and Grace, and Elizabeth and Bertie et al., are the best ones to advise RE: insulin..Best Wishes!
 
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