? Lab work! Hyperlipidemia? Raw diet?

[Sebastian’s mom (Lauren)]

Hey I wanted to know if any of you have switched to raw and what are the pros/ cons?
I know there’s a Facebook page dedicated to this, but all of the information is overwhelming and I want to hear first hand from someone with a diabetic kitty!

Sebastian’s triglycerides and cholesterol are high so I want to tackle that. I’m also concerned about long term use of FF/ friskies with the phosphorus levels. I’d rather fix and prevent further issue than have another thing added to the already veryy long list down the road.

While the vet said his triglycerides and cholesterol were high from the vet visit alone, I am not convinced. Given the seizure- like, neurological behavoir he’s been exhibiting.
For reference his triglycerides are 281 when the normal range is 25-160 and his cholesterol is 283 when the normal range is 75-220.
Someone here said possible hyperlipidimia. It’s unfortunate that i feel like the vet is dismissive and I can’t go to her for help.

His lab work is added to his spreadsheet!
Thank you in advance

 

[tiffmaxee]

Was he fasted ? If not the cholesterol results are not meaningful. Many here use EZ COMPLETE and their protein of choice with ckd cats and its lower phosphorus because it doesn’t contain bone. You can look for it on their site https://www.foodfurlife.com/ezcomplete-fur-cats-premix-information.html#/

 

[Sebastian’s mom (Lauren)]

Was he fasted ? If not the cholesterol results are not meaningful. Many here use EZ COMPLETE and their protein of choice with ckd cats and its lower phosphorus because it doesn’t contain bone. You can look for it on their site https://www.foodfurlife.com/ezcomplete-fur-cats-premix-information.html#/

I read that high triglycerides and cholesterol could explain a lot of his symptoms. However I don’t remember when he last ate that day. Say he did eat, do you know if that’s a normal raise without fasting?
This boy is making me learn and research things all day long. I’ll look into that thank you!

 

[tiffmaxee]

Sorry but I don’t. I just know it’s not accurate if not fasted and I don’t remember how long is required. Hard to do with a diabetic cat obviously.

 

[tiffmaxee]

Found this which says 12 hours.
https://www.petmd.com/cat/conditions/endocrine/c_ct_hyperlipidemia

 

[Diane Tyler's Mom GA]

@Sebastian’s mom (Lauren)
Hi Lauren , if you don't start the raw diet right away have you tried any of the Weruva pates , they are low carb and low phosphorus
Take a look at this thread
https://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/new-member-11-8-and-i-am-tired.283363/#post-3124085
Look at post #32 , I listed some for another member

 

[Sebastian’s mom (Lauren)]

@Sebastian’s mom (Lauren)
Hi Lauren , if you don't start the raw diet right away have you tried any of the Weruva pates , they are low carb and low phosphorus
Take a look at this thread
https://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/new-member-11-8-and-i-am-tired.283363/#post-3124085
Look at post #32 , I listed some for another member

Thank you very much! I’ll give these a try while I try to learn more about raw.

 

[Basic's Mom]

The raw diet doesn't have to be complicated. The EZ complete listed above has everything you need to make the protein you choose nutritionally complete. I was very hesitant to start raw because of all of the supplements you need. With this, you don't need anything else except the protein and water. Instructions are listed on the back on the bag. Get a kitchen scale, cheap one off Amazon. I would suggest a novel protein, which is one he's never had before.

I started introducing raw (1 teaspoon) at the end of last month. Moved him up to 1 tablespoon, but moved him back down again because his stool was a little softer than necessary. These type of changes should go even slower than when we switch canned foods, IMO. I introduced new canned food over 7-10 days period of time completing the switch on 10th day. I started his intro to raw on 12/19. While every cat is different, I wanted to share my experience with my cat and just how long the switch is taking. It will require patience but it is one I feel will be worth staying the course. He also doesn't really love it. I have concluded that he may never make the switch completely and I'm fine with that too. I think it will be much easier moving forward to start a cat out on this diet than change to this diet. Cats clearly hate having their food changed up.

The person that works for EZ Complete set me an incredibly detailed messaged. Much like you see here regarding her own experience with switching her cats to raw and explained it took her 6 months. She also sited many references that are sited her from Dr. Lisa. They truly sale a high quality product and there response to customers reflects their knowledge of cats.

 

[Basic's Mom]

I will conclude that I struggle to find a science based source to find true nutritional information on novel proteins. I am not buying my meat from a company that sells for raw diets. I have venison always in my freezer from family members that hunt. The woman from EZ complete explained to me that the nutritional analysis of wild venison would differ wildly from farm raised venison. Farm raised isn't consuming what a wild deer would. Same goes for rabbit etc.

 

[Sienne and Gabby (GA)]

Elevated cholesterol and triglycerides are hyperlipidemia. These are also not levels that are effected by a temporary stress like a vet visit. I would suggest finding a veterinary internal medicine specialist and getting a consultation.