Kitty is coming home today!---She's Home!

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I just talked to the vet--Kitty is doing good. I will be picking up Cool Toothless Kitty this afternoon. I hope this is the beginning of better times for her.

Would you think her bgs will become lower as a result of the dental and cleaning up the infection? If so, how soon should I expect to see a downward movement in her numbers? days, weeks ???

Thanks!
 
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party_cat great News! I would think the numbers will come down as the infection subsides. Looking forward to it!
 
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So happy that Kitty is coming home!
you must be thrilled

not sure about dosing, sorry

Densie and shakes
 
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Yea for Cool toothless Kitty coming home, I don't think she'll miss those icky painful teeth at all. :RAHCAT

You should start to see some improvement in her bg's as soon as the infection clears and the pain subsides.
 
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I agree with Robin - it might take a few days for that infection to clear up, so I'd expect to see gradually lower numbers starting about 3 or so days from now. Probably won't be an over night drop sort of thing - but ECID!

So happy that Kitty gets to come home today! cat_pet_icon
 
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Yay for sweet Kitty coming home today! Paws crossed for the beginning of better times.
 
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Just got home with Cool Kitty!

She sat in my lap the entire way home-- headbutting and purring! When we walked in the door, she demanded a can of FF-- ate it all! Now, I am sitting outside in 100 degree temp. with her because she wanted to come outside! Man it's hot-- but, she seems happy.

Prior the the dental yesterday her bg was 676--+15. This morning her amps was 440 (+13)-- got 4 units.

Wendy-- and any other kidney experts-- I have a question. Kitty's CRT was 1.7 and her BUN was 38 yesterday-- I am happy with that-- but, I asked to see her last bloodwork results (2 months ago) and her phosphorus was 5.2. Should I be concerned with that with her kidney values where they are now? My regular vet wasn't there-- so, I will call her tomorrow, but I was curiuos what you thought. Thanks for any thoughts!

Hopefully Kitty is pain free! It is all about quality of life--
 
Kim
So glad that Kitty is home and happy
I will keep my fingers crossed that the numbers start coming down for you both!!

Denise and Shakes
 
kse said:
Just got home with Cool Kitty!

She sat in my lap the entire way home-- headbutting and purring! When we walked in the door, she demanded a can of FF-- ate it all! Now, I am sitting outside in 100 degree temp. with her because she wanted to come outside! Man it's hot-- but, she seems happy.

Prior the the dental yesterday her bg was 676--+15. This morning her amps was 440 (+13)-- got 4 units.

Wendy-- and any other kidney experts-- I have a question. Kitty's CRT was 1.7 and her BUN was 38 yesterday-- I am happy with that-- but, I asked to see her last bloodwork results (2 months ago) and her phosphorus was 5.2. Should I be concerned with that with her kidney values where they are now? My regular vet wasn't there-- so, I will call her tomorrow, but I was curiuos what you thought. Thanks for any thoughts!

Hopefully Kitty is pain free! It is all about quality of life--
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Glad to hear Kitty is home and happy! She won't miss those teeth at all.

As for creatinine and phosphorus, you only need to worry about the latter if the cat has kidney disease. Kitty's values are in normal range for creatinine, so you don't need to keep phosphorus low. With renal failure cats, the goal is to keep them at the low end of normal because studies have shown keeping phosphorus low preserves kidney function longer. Cats who don't have a compromised kidney don't need to worry, though of course if it went out of normal range then you'd need to investigate why. All of Kitty's values are very normal. I'd be happy if I had a creatinine level like that! I think you said she had an elevated creatinine before. How high was it and when? I've been doing some reading and diabetes can throw it off, but once you get it better controlled values can come back down. Here is a quote from this page on Tanya's site (couldn't find a way to link to it as the link seems to be broken): http://www.felinecrf.org/related_diseases.htm#Diabetes1

Cats with ketoacidosis may have elevated BUN and creatinine levels, which in this situation may not necessarily be a sign of CRF, particularly if phosphorus and potassium levels are normal. Diabetic cats also often have dilute urine unrelated to CRF, and the resulting dehydration may also cause increased kidney values. Once the diabetes is under control, the BUN and creatinine levels may improve. Initially the bloodwork may also indicate liver damage, which should improve as the diabetes is brought under control.
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The point is, if Kitty hasn't been that controlled (and the same can be said for Shaikha actually), we may see numbers improve if we can get glucose levels more normalized. In Shaikha's case I'm thinking the anemia may definitely be related to her kidneys in addition to the drug reaction (did some correlating today of lab values and health info I had recorded elsewhere) since her anemia got much worse after her UTI/kidney infection in February and hasn't improved since then. It could be also chronic infection playing a role as well as diabetes. Once we get her sugar more normalized, if her creatinine stays elevated then that tells me there is definite loss of function. At Kitty's levels though she doesn't have any renal issues you need to worry about right now. She may drift in and out of normal, but if she stays outside normal range then you need to pay attention. That would be my thought.
 
Thanks for the explanation Wendy! The highest kidney numbers Kitty has had were CRT 2.3 and BUN -- I think around 78-- this was after DKA. I am still giving the Sub Qs-- not sure they are necessary, but the kidney numbers are better, so I hate to stop.

Thanks again!
 
Thanks Robin-Things are good or at the least better in Kittyville!

I don't want to get too carried away, but she sure acts A Lot better.
pmps 306!

I have been keeping a check on Harley's SS -- looks Good!

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PMPS 306 is very nice for Ms. Kitty. I hope this trend continues.

Thanks for keeping an eye on us. I am liking his results. We did a rebound check last night to make sure the blues weren't a bounce but nope they aren't so now we have a good idea of what dose to settle on.
 
Glad you've got her back home and that she's doing good! I don't know if I would be sitting outside with her...I would just watch from inside! My thermometer is reading 100 in the shade! Ugh! Is she really toothless? I guess that's not really a problem since they eat can food.
 
No, not truly toothless-- she only lost 3!

I have another 15 year old cat that has only 4 teeth and she eats like a pig!

How is Thumper today?
 
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Thanks for the explanation Wendy! The highest kidney numbers Kitty has had were CRT 2.3 and BUN -- I think around 78-- this was after DKA. I am still giving the Sub Qs-- not sure they are necessary, but the kidney numbers are better, so I hate to stop. Thanks again!
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Honestly, unless your vet has reason to think she has kidney failure, it sure doesn't seem likely given those numbers. The DKA alone will throw things off, as will any dehydration. The subQs might help for DKA prevention, I don't know. The only thing you do need to be aware of is that too much fluid is also a bad thing. Cats can get overhydrated, but if you are only giving 100ml per day that's not that much. The more fluid intake, the more the heart has to process, so cats who have any issues should get much less. You could do an experiment where you tried going to every other day, then stop and see if it changes her numbers any. Though if creatinine doesn't get outside normal range then really that isn't a problem. Some vets focus on BUN but that can be elevated for reasons other than kidney failure, so creatinine is the one to watch. With Kitty having such high numbers and having DKA, the dehydration alone that can accompany that may make subQs a good idea anyway but your vet would know best. You can read more about subQ fluids here, though the focus is on renal failure but great info anyway: http://www.felinecrf.org/sub-cutaneous_fluids.htm.
 
All of us have cats around 15 yrs old!

Thumper is about the same...she's just laying around a lot. Hopefully the antibiotics will kick in soon! Her Hyper T sister isn't eating though....hopefully that's just a temporary fluke! I can't deal with the vet again this week!
 
Welcome home, cool toothless one! :-D

ECID on the BGs - Bix ran higher for maybe a week or so after his dental, then went right back to where he had been before it. Some get lower BGs pretty quickly though. If you get any numbers below 50 or PSs below 150 (or dramatic improvement approaching those levels suddenly), then you know to reduce! :mrgreen:
 
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