? Jack the Cat AMPS 137 + 2 97, +3 78 +5 69, +9 88, PMPS 86, + 2 70 Dosing Advice While Away

Jack the Cat

Jack the Cat

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Good numbers yesterday and this morning.

Jack the Cat is now on .10 U x 2 day. I am away for a week starting tomorrow.

I have vet tech as pet sitter. She will be testing AMPS and PMPS for me.

He is on wet food only and treats only if I had to poke his ears more than 5 times!

I was considering leaving some kibble out while away for grazing. I know it is only 1 day but his numbers yesterday were good, and if good today too, will not leave any kibble.

Is it appropriate to remain at the .10 while away?

Vet tech said she would consult with the vet and maybe not dose if his numbers are good.

Thank you for any guidance.
 
His numbers are looking nice and safe right now. By the end of tonight’s cycle, he’ll have had this dose for 4 cycles and the depot could be filled in by then. So, it will be interesting to see if his over all cycle drops more by the end of the night .

If high carb kibble was out of the equation totally, no kibble treats, it would be interesting to see what his numbers do. Maybe he wouldn’t even need the 0.1 dose. But , leaving tomorrow probably isn’t the time to try that experiment right now.

Probably, the safest thing to do while you are gone is to give the drop dose. It is a difference between about 4 drops of insulin compared to 1 drop with my Relion syringes. I am afraid if you stop insulin while you are gone that he’ll be too high.

Let’s see what others think .
 
Since you are following SLGS, Jack earned a reduction down to that drop dose today. Have you counted the number of drops in your 0.1 unit dose? Load the syringe with 0.1 unit, then turn the plunger to push out a drop. Keep going until you have pushed out all the insulin. Might be worth an experiment to see if he should stay on insulin or not while you are gone. We do want to keep him safe but he needs less insulin.

Here is the link to your previous post here, we include those so people helping you can easily see the history: http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/...1-159-2-113-4-66-6-103-pmps-131-2-110.215812/
 
Wendy&Neko said:
Since you are following SLGS, Jack earned a reduction down to that drop dose today. Have you counted the number of drops in your 0.1 unit dose? Load the syringe with 0.1 unit, then turn the plunger to push out a drop. Keep going until you have pushed out all the insulin. Might be worth an experiment to see if he should stay on insulin or not while you are gone. We do want to keep him safe but he needs less insulin.

Here is the link to your previous post here, we include those so people helping you can easily see the history: http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/...1-159-2-113-4-66-6-103-pmps-131-2-110.215812/
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Number of drops is two in the .10 U dose.

So I should just give him 1 drop?
 
Just curious what brand syringes are you using? And did he have any kibble today?

Looks like he earned the reduction today. I would reduce to a drop. Do you know how to do the drop dose? Post if you need help.
 
Bobbie And Bubba said:
Just curious what brand syringes are you using? And did he have any kibble today?

Looks like he earned the reduction today. I would reduce to a drop. Do you know how to do the drop dose? Post if you need help.
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No kibble today. Yes need help with drop dose since I will have to leave instructions for the vet tech who is taking care of him while I am gone.
 
Here’s how you do it. Push the plunger down and keep the pressure on as you put the needle into the vial or pen and then let go. Pull out the syringe and you should have 1 drop. I practiced with water and then plunged it out to see there was a drop there. It’s hard to see it. So after I would shoot a drop, after the shot, I would pull the plunger out and smell it . You should be able to smell the Lantus.

Another tip: After you shoot the drop continue to hold the plunger in as you remove the needle from Jack’s skin. It will help against that drop being sucked back up into the syringe.
 
Bobbie And Bubba said:
Here’s how you do it. Push the plunger down and keep the pressure on as you put the needle into the vial or pen and then let go. Pull out the syringe and you should have 1 drop. I practiced with water and then plunged it out to see there was a drop there. It’s hard to see it. So after I would shoot a drop, after the shot, I would pull the plunger out and smell it . You should be able to smell the Lantus.

Another tip: After you shoot the drop continue to hold the plunger in as you remove the needle from Jack’s skin. It will help against that drop being sucked back up into the syringe.
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Ok just practiced and I it worked. Thank you for the education. And just to be clear, I am to do this drop shot for his PM dosing?
 
Just peeked in on your SS in the middle of the night... 70 at +2 with one drop. The no kibble today has made a significant difference in his numbers. I am thinking that since he won't be tested through the day time at all by your pet sitter and if he is still a green number when you test at AMPS that maybe he could do with out the insulin AS long as he gets no kibble. Ideally, we would want to see him in all green numbers for a week before starting an OTJ trial. But, with you leaving and no testing through the day while you're gone, we don't have that advantage.

Tagging @Wendy&Neko to see what she thinks.
 
Bobbie And Bubba said:
Just peeked in on your SS in the middle of the night... 70 at +2 with one drop. The no kibble today has made a significant difference in his numbers. I am thinking that since he won't be tested through the day time at all by your pet sitter and if he is still a green number when you test at AMPS that maybe he could do with out the insulin AS long as he gets no kibble. Ideally, we would want to see him in all green numbers for a week before starting an OTJ trial. But, with you leaving and no testing through the day while you're gone, we don't have that advantage.

Tagging @Wendy&Neko to see what she thinks.
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I think my Jack the Cat is playing mind games with me...his AMPS this morning is the same as his PMPS yesterday....86.

I did give drop shot this morning. Will test him for the next few hours before we have to leave for airport.

Will tell petsitter no insulin.

I can't believe he is going off insulin and I am not going to be here with him to celebrate....can't miss this trip as it is our daughter-in-law's memorial service.

Thank you for giving me the roadmap for Jack.
 
Sue my condolences for your DIL.

Will your pet sitter have access to this forum so that she could check in if she needed support ? Have her still test him AM and PM and record his numbers. Perhaps you can tell her to only give him a drop if he goes above 120.

No worries about missing his OTJ. We can think of this as his trial. You’ll be back for his party .
 
Bobbie And Bubba said:
Sue my condolences for your DIL.

Will your pet sitter have access to this forum so that she could check in if she needed support ? Have her still test him AM and PM and record his numbers. Perhaps you can tell her to only give him a drop if he goes above 120.

No worries about missing his OTJ. We can think of this as his trial. You’ll be back for his party .
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Bobbie And Bubba said:
Sue my condolences for your DIL.

Will your pet sitter have access to this forum so that she could check in if she needed support ? Have her still test him AM and PM and record his numbers. Perhaps you can tell her to only give him a drop if he goes above 120.

No worries about missing his OTJ. We can think of this as his trial. You’ll be back for his party .
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No, petsitter will not have access. She will be testing his AM and PM numbers. I am asking her to text them to me. I will update the spreadsheet.

Will tell her to drop shot if over 120.

When petsitter was over on Tuesday, she thought his numbers were good enough to go off insulin, but she wanted to confirm with the vet. She has also has had diabetic cats so I feel comfortable leaving the boys in her care.

Thank you.
 
Jack the Cat said:
No, petsitter will not have access. She will be testing his AM and PM numbers. I am asking her to text them to me. I will update the spreadsheet.

Will tell her to drop shot if over 120.

When petsitter was over on Tuesday, she thought his numbers were good enough to go off insulin, but she wanted to confirm with the vet. She has also has had diabetic cats so I feel comfortable leaving the boys in her care.

Thank you.
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That kind of confidence with a pet sitter is like gold!

Safe journey to you.
 
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