insulin injection schedules

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edithj20

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Hi
my 12yr old cat max was just diagnosed ,there is a lot of info to process im on your site and trying to find the
insulin injection schedules to print out can someone let me know how to find them .
Also my vet gave me dm dry food to mix with my longevity food by science diet, ive been seeing that dm is not great at dietary management and dry food is not good for cats
, how do i switch max over to wet if that is best and which ones are the best. Help this is all very overwelming
Thank you, edith
 
It depends on what type of Insulin you have. If you have Lantus, which I am using, I know it is 12 hours a part. But make sure you test before every shot to make sure it is safe. Also you can check out the different cat foods here http://www.catinfo.org/docs/SortableCat ... -22-13.htm You want something that is low in carbs. I think from what I read here the number you want to stay under is 8, but watch out for the seafood varieties. They seem to have low carbs but they have to much phosphorous which is bad for Max's kidneys if he gets too much. Friskies and fancy feast and Wellness seem to be the most popular from what I have been reading on the site, just make sure you check the carbs on that list to make sure that they aren't too high. Ones with gravy tend to be very high. The pate seems to the the lowest. I hope this helps and if I am wrong please someone correct me.
 
Welcome Edith. Take a big breath. We know exactly how you feel because we all have been there. We'd love to help you.

What kind of insulin? We can tell more about schedules when we know the insulin type.

Yes, wet low carb is best (a vet explains why here: http://www.catinfo.org. She has food charts on her site too). BUT we would urge you to learn to hometest first before changing his diet. With my Oliver, the change from dry to wet meant 100 points lower and a possible hypo if we hadn't reduced his usual dose.

Keep reading. Ask questions. Everyone who answers your questions is paying it forward for help they received when they were new and confused.
 
Welcome to FDMB Edith. We are here to answer any questions you have.

Sue and Fievel have already given you good info for starters and asked what insulin you are using. :smile:

For home testing, most everyone here uses Relion Confirm human glucose meter and strips. You can get them at Walmart. You will need lancets (28-29 gauge is good number for beginners) to poke your sugar-kitty's ear for blood to test. There are numerous links to videos/pics in the HEALTH LINKS section of the board on how to do the pokey-poke.

To answer your main question we do need to know what insulin you have.

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hi everyone

thank you, for the warm welcome
Max is on pzi 4 units 2 x day
im also trying to get methylcobalamin to inject for the neuropathy Can anyone tell me what the safe does is to help with that.
My doc says 1ml a day is alot. he also tells me that taking bg at home and trying to regulate that way is risky. Any thoughts
 
Four units twice daily is a lot of insulin. Some ProZinc cats here are on 2 units but many are under one unit. I would guess the dry high carb food keeps him high enough that he doesn't hypo. But it is like a human diabetic increasing his insulin dose so he can eat his 4 doughnuts every morning. :mrgreen:

I don't understand what your vet means by hometesting being risky. We think it is very risky to give insulin without knowing what the blood glucose levels are. If you look at other people's spreadsheets on this forum, you can see that new diabetics often change levels without warning as the insulin starts to work in their bodies.

I know it is hard to hear advice contrary to your vet. All I can say is that we deal with hundreds of new diabetics a month, while your vet may see one or two a month. We have a protocol that has worked for thousands of cats over the years:

1. We like to start with a slow, long lasting insulin. ProZinc is a good insulin that is mild and lasts the whole 12 hour cycle. We like new diabetics to start low and go slow. That is, start at a low dose of .5 or one unit twice daily every 12 hours. And increase slowly, by .25 or .5 units as the numbers indicate.

2. We feed a low carb, wet diet. We like to feed under 8-10% carbs. There are several food charts you can use: Dr. Lisa’s food chart
Hobo’s Food Chart Rhiannon’s 8% and under list

Whatever food you can afford that your cat will eat in that lower range. BUT do not change over to wet until you are hometesting. With our Oliver, the switch meant an overnight change of 100 points downward. If we hadn’t been testing and had given our usual amount., he could have hypoed.

2. And most importantly, hometesting. We think cats tend to be stressed at the vet and we know stress raises blood glucose levels. So we test our cats at home. You want to know what the number is before you give the shot to be sure the amount you are planning to give is safe. And testing midcycle will show you how the insulin is working. We use human glucometers and test on their ears or paws. Here is a video that shows you how it is done: Video for hometesting It is not risky in any way. The cat learns to put up with the poke because we give treats every time. It may take a while to get your and your kitty's routine down and see what works for you, but the peace of mind that comes with knowing you are giving a safe amount of insulin every time is invaluable.

I know this is a lot to take in and contrary to your vet's advice. If it makes sense to you and you want help, we would love to help.
 
Wink got 25U of the methylcobalamin liquid injected once a week. if my memory serves me correctly.

My doc says 1ml a day is alot. he also tells me that taking bg at home and trying to regulate that way is risky.

We feel that not testing at home, shooting blind, is much riskier than knowing what the pre-shot tests are. You don't want to give the insulin if the BG (blood glucose) levels are too low, so testing at least before every shot, the pre-shot test is highly recommended.

Most of us here use a human glucometer, with inexpensive test strips for testing. We can give you reference ranges if you are interested.
 
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