I did it!!!!!!!! YAY!!!!!!!! RAH!RAH!RAH!

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RoysMum

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I'm some happy...I cannot tell you how happy I am!!!

I got Roy's first number: 10.6

What now????

Is that good?

Please advise.

A special thank you to Sue, cos I did what she said and btw, I put the waterbowl in the tub and it worked!!! Roy had a nice drink!
 
He had his last shot about 8:30pm last nite, just a tad under 2 units.

He ate 1/2 can of FF after the shot.

I think (but am not sure) my house mate gave him some FF at 5:30 this morning. It is difficult to say how much (if any) he ate.

We went out and walked around the garden this morning while the frost was still on the grass....Roy did not like it.
 
Congratulations! Super great news - and we knew you could do it! I have no advice on whether or not to give a shot, just wanted to give you a great big YAAY and welcome you to the world of diabetes kitteh home testers! So, so happy for you!
 
Okay. So first we have to know if his numbers are sure headed up, not down. Our general threshold for not giving a shot is 200, for new diabetics. We suggest waiting 20 minutes, without feeding, and test again.

If he hasn't eaten since the test, can you get another number? If he is over 200, I would be cautious and give .5 units (half of the one unit amount). Will you be around today and can you get some more tests in? That will really help us see how the insulin is working and help us give dose advice. If he is still going down from the 180, you will want to skip a shot.

BTW, you can take off the 911. Roy and his Mom are doing great!
 
ALRIGHT!! DANCIN' NANNERS!!!!

Isn't it 'unique' that we feel SO EXCITED 'cos we stuck our kitty and got blood?? Just tickles me to pieces! I still remember our first time back in July!!

I dedicate my 'yard dance' to you today! My 'yard dance' is when my excitement is too big for me to 'woo hoo' in the house!

Hugs!!!!
 
Sue,
I am kinda confused about the number thing. So for now, could/would you figure it out for me (plus I suck at Math-I have my degree in Philosophy). It's 10:11 and I am going to give about 10 more minutes of peace to enjoy his catnip then vampire him again. The warm pill bottle and taking the cover off the lancet really. Easy Breezy. I cannot thank you enough. I am obliged.

Kindest regards.
 
We are cautious at first because we don't know how he reacts to the insulin. We like starting low and going slow. With your number below 200 in the am, 12 hours after insulin, it suggests the dose is too high. (Although every cat is different, generally Canninsulin does not last the whole 12 hours. Most cats are back up again around 8 hours after the shot. Since Roy is not, we would think he could have gone quite low overnight.)

If the number is still going down, we wouldn't want to add more insulin since it might send him too low.

I know this is confusing at first and a lot to learn. We will try to help.

You are going to have to have a heart to heart with your housemate. You need to tell him that Roy is your cat and you will be in charge of his treatment. One of the things to avoid is feeding more than 2 hours before a test, as food generally raises bg levels. We want a true number to determine a dose, not one influenced by food.
 
Here is a guide to using Canninsulin. viewtopic.php?f=19&t=302

I would work today on getting Roy to eat wet low carb, if at all possible. That will bring down his numbers further, without insulin. If he is stubborn, try the dry crumbles on top. We want him to eat so if he won't eat it at all, feed him what he will eat. But weaning him off the dry is the goal.
 
I tried numerous times to stick Roy in the ear and I did not get any blood. His ears look like pincushions, so I am giving him some time off, PLUS I have to go out. What should I do? He seems fine and chripy.
 
I would skip the shot. He may be high when you return and test, but better too high than too low. To keep him from getting bruises on his ears, hold the spot you poked for a few seconds. You can also pick up some Neosporin with pain relief to put on his ears.

You will get better every time you poke. You might look for some 26-28 gauge lancets that will match your lancet device. That will make a bigger hole. Remember, Roy gets some treat each test, successful or not. Also if he likes fish, he might like Bonito flakes for a treat. They are dried fish flakes and handy to put over the wet food also.
 
Congrats Cheryl! Good job getting the first test in! A 10.6 is terrific (that's a 192 to us) and he's right at that "do I give a shot or not" line we normally hold off from shooting at with "newbies".

Just so I understand the timing. Roy had about 2 units at 8:30 PM,
and he may have eaten at 5:30 this morning?
And did he eat anything else between then and the time you got blood which was around 9:30?

If you do give him any insulin this morning, it's going to be a small dose, not 2 units.

Let me know if what I've listed is correct?
Carl
 
Carl,

She couldn't get another test and she has to leave. So I suggested skipping - does that sound good? (We are not sure whether he is still dropping or not.)
 
Carl:

You asked:

Just so I understand the timing. Roy had about 2 units at 8:30 PM, (at which time he had 1/2 can of Fancy Feast)
and he may have eaten at 5:30 this morning? (I am not tooooo terribly sure, my house mate intervenes)
And did he eat anything else between then and the time you got blood which was around 9:30? (I do not know. If he ate anything, it was some FF and by the looks of the plate he never ate very much.)

If you do give him any insulin this morning, it's going to be a small dose, not 2 units. (He is supposed to get his insulin at 11:30)

Let me know if what I've listed is correct?

I am just going to wait to see what's up when I get back around 2pm (it's 11:41am)...it's the best I can do.

I hope and pray that that is okay.
 
Sue and Cheryl,
Yes, skipping is fine. Too many unknowns to rush into a decision.
Carl
 
Cheryl

It is always safer to skip a shot than to give a shot when there are questions. You can always give a shot later, but once the insulin is "in", you can't get it back out.

We can regroup when you get back!

Carl
 
RoysMum said:
I tried numerous times to stick Roy in the ear and I did not get any blood. His ears look like pincushions, so I am giving him some time off, PLUS I have to go out. What should I do? He seems fine and chripy.

i think i read in your other thread that you were using the delica lancet. i had the same one and also had problems getting blood. i thought it was me cos i was new and didnt know what i was doing. but after weeks, i was still having problems and would usually have to poke her twice in nearly the same spot to get enough blood.

after some reading on the board here, a lot of people recommend a 28-29 guage needle. the delica is 33 guage, which is super fine and doesnt make a big enough hole to get a good blood sample.

try switching to a larger gauge lancet (the smaller the gauge #, the bigger the needle) and it should be ALOT easier to get blood

also, there are very few nerve endings in the cats ears, so you are not hurting him with the pokes one bit. my cat was more annoyed at the fact that i was even touching her ears than the poke itself
 
SOOO GLAD YOU POSTED and congrats!!!!!
It will get easier. Hope you are doing the happy dance today while out and about..
Keep us posted \M/
 
RoysMum said:
Sue,
I am kinda confused about the number thing. So for now, could/would you figure it out for me (plus I suck at Math-I have my degree in Philosophy). It's 10:11 and I am going to give about 10 more minutes of peace to enjoy his catnip then vampire him again. The warm pill bottle and taking the cover off the lancet really. Easy Breezy. I cannot thank you enough. I am obliged.

Kindest regards.
To convert Canadian numbers to American, you just multiply by 18. So, 10.6=190.8. Even a Philosophy major can do it. Especially with a calculator!
And congratulations on getting enough blood for a test! :RAHCAT
 
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