Hi from me and Molly, any advice please

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See now she's gone from 7.2 at +6, now at +9 she's 26.1, which is insane..almost 4 times as high as 3 hours ago.. Admittedly she had a small amount of food about 30 minutes before I tested, but surely it would make such a big difference would it, not that much of a hike, considering what her numbers have been up until now, with no shot this morning.
 
Elizabeth and Bertie said:
Similar pattern to that of 8th and 12th October, although the jump in BG is higher and sooner.


There's an outside chance that it's a 'food spike'. What did you feed Molly?
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She had the same as always Mac's chicken, it was a couple of mouthfuls, that all...yes a similar start as the 8th and 12th, but not a massive increase like today
 
@Sue Hammond

Sue, what is your feeding schedule with Molly?

I'm wondering if there 'might' be an issue with the numbers dropping too fast in the first few hours of the cycle at the moment, which then causes the BG bounce up high again. If that's the case then feeding her a snack about an hour to an hour and a half into the cycle might slow that drop down and reduce any bouncing...
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Elizabeth and Bertie said:
@Sue Hammond

Sue, what is your feeding schedule with Molly?

I'm wondering if there 'might' be an issue with the numbers dropping too fast in the first few hours of the cycle at the moment, which then causes the BG bounce up high again. If that's the case then feeding her a snack about an hour to an hour and a half into the cycle might slow that drop down and reduce any bouncing...
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@Sue Hammond

Sue, what is your feeding schedule with Molly?

I'm wondering if there 'might' be an issue with the numbers dropping too fast in the first few hours of the cycle at the moment, which then causes the BG bounce up high again. If that's the case then feeding her a snack about an hour to an hour and a half into the cycle might slow that drop down and reduce any bouncing...
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Hi Elizabeth, she does have a small amount of food around that time when I'm here, after her shot.
I did a +3 test and it was 12, this morning it was 22.3
 
Hi everyone, so just recently we've had some pretty goodish bg results, (in the blues) now all of a sudden, it's shot up to the low 20's (pinks), it's more at +6 than her amps test this morning ..Her food is he same, the insulin cartridge is he same one, the strips are from the same bottle she's eating normally, so I'm at a loss as to why this has suddenly happened...she's playing as normal, seems her normal self to me ....I'm puzzled to say the least
 
Sue Hammond said:
Hi everyone, so just recently we've had some pretty goodish bg results, (in the blues) now all of a sudden, it's shot up to the low 20's (pinks), it's more at +6 than her amps test this morning ..Her food is he same, the insulin cartridge is he same one, the strips are from the same bottle she's eating normally, so I'm at a loss as to why this has suddenly happened...she's playing as normal, seems her normal self to me ....I'm puzzled to say the least
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Still puzzled
 
Hi Sue, it might be best to start a new thread with you specific questions. I saw you were looking for help. I unfortunately am too new, and won't be able to help, but I am sure someone will be able to advise! I do know that it is completely normal for their sugars to be very inconsistent the first few weeks/months after diagnosis.
 
DavesMom said:
Hi Sue, it might be best to start a new thread with you specific questions. I saw you were looking for help. I unfortunately am too new, and won't be able to help, but I am sure someone will be able to advise! I do know that it is completely normal for their sugars to be very inconsistent the first few weeks/months after diagnosis.
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Hi, thanks for your reply, I can't really start a new thread, because all the previous advice and information is in this thread, I just wondered why those who had helped before, weren't replying, maybe they just aren't seeing it anymore
 
Sue Hammond said:
There is no dark green on the sheet, should I do a new one, but have no idea how to, this current one was done for me
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I think the spreadsheet template must have been adapted since I started using it. I have no dark green either and lime green is actually the norm I’m aiming for.
 
Sue Hammond said:
Hi @Elizabeth and Bertie There's been no change to diet, and her current insulin cartridge was started on 16th October, so new ....No health issues at all, she seems perfectly fine looking at her...
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When I originally posted a couple of weeks ago we were having good blue numbers for a few days, I thought maybe her own insulin was kicking in, but it doesn't seem that likely now unfortunately
 
Count how many drops in 0.5 u and half it. That is your .025 eg I get 4 drops in 0.5u. So if I want 0.75 u I fill syringe to 1u and squeeze out two drops.
 
Don't you risk going past the best dose by jumping up too high? I am concerned I might have done that with Silver. Considering starting again from scratch and doing 0.5 as I think I shot passed his dose.
 
Yes I understand I can draw insulin from the cartridge,but I don't have .25 on them, they go up 0.50, I can't see well enough to judge the extra .25....Also I've never been shown how to use a syringe
 
Sue Hammond said:
Yes I understand I can draw insulin from the cartridge,but I don't have .25 on them, they go up 0.50, I can't see well enough to judge the extra .25....Also I've never been shown how to use a syringe
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Another thing I don't understand is now Molly is at her ideal weight, I thought her numbers would reflect that, but they don't seem to be at all, she's lost 1.5kg since starting on insulin..
 
You’re saying a lot of “I can’ts”. None of us knew how to use a syringe when we started out. We had to learn. YouTube is great for that. I already explained how to measure half units if you don’t have half unit mark in syringes Sotho those would be a good purchase.

Weight and requirement for insulin don’t really go hand in hand. Keep going. Don’t give up and follow the protocol for the insulin you are on and you won’t go wrong.
 
Sue Hammond said:
I don't have .25 on them, they go up 0.50, I can't see well enough to judge the extra .25....Also I've never been shown how to use a syringe
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My close vision is poor, so (even with good reading glasses) I need a strong light source behind the syringe to see exactly where the insulin comes to.

So, I put a little more into the syringe than I need then hold it against a good light source (desk lamp, or light under kitchen cupboards) to see exactly what I've got in the syringe, and gently squeeze out the excess.
Measuring .25 isn't very difficult because you're just finding the (approximate) mid-way point between two lines on the syringe barrel. My cat's dose went down to 0.1 of a unit and that made me go cross-eyed, haha!
An alternative to using the U40 syringes with half unit markings is to use U100 syringes with half unit markings. But these need to be used with a simple conversion chart (that we have here) to measure the right dose. Using U100 syringes can make measuring small doses of U40 insulin very much easier.

Very few of us had ever used a syringe before our kitty became diabetic. I was phobic about syringes, but practiced giving shots on an orange, so my hands could get used to the feel of them. And it very soon becomes routine. None of us know what we can do until we try. :bighug::bighug::bighug:

Eliz
 
Juliet said:
You’re saying a lot of “I can’ts”. None of us knew how to use a syringe when we started out. We had to learn. YouTube is great for that. I already explained how to measure half units if you don’t have half unit mark in syringes Sotho those would be a good purchase.

Weight and requirement for insulin don’t really go hand in hand. Keep going. Don’t give up and follow the protocol for the insulin you are on and you won’t go wrong.
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I have the .50 but not the .25 Juliet, what I meant was my vet didn't show me how to use them... I feel like I'm being told off here, that's how your message comes across, all I wanted was some advice, as I don't get much from my vet
 
Also my vet told me once her excess weight came off her numbers should show some improvement, and the insulin dose become less, but that obviously isn't happening
 
Sue Hammond said:
Also my vet told me once her excess weight came off her numbers should show some improvement
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That certainly can happen, and often does (where weight is a factor in insulin resistance). But it can take a while...

It's also 'possible' that the higher numbers are a winter thing. Some cats do have seasonal variations in their BG numbers. (Bertie's numbers are typically higher during the winter, for example. And that change can happen quite suddenly...)

Sue, can you remind me what you're feeding Molly at the moment?
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Elizabeth and Bertie said:
That certainly can happen, and often does (where weight is a factor in insulin resistance). But it can take a while...

It's also 'possible' that the higher numbers are a winter thing. Some cats do have seasonal variations in their BG numbers. (Bertie's numbers are typically higher during the winter, for example. And that change can happen quite suddenly...)

Sue, can you remind me what you're feeding Molly at the moment?
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@Elizabeth and Bertie , she's on low carb, Lily's kitchen, or Mac's, she now weighs 4.9kg after losing 1.5kg... her numbers during the day a couple of weeks ago were in the blues, so winter doesn't seem to have affected her that way, also she's hardly ever out in the cold, she's much more of a summer girl lol x
 
Sue Hammond said:
See now after giving her 1.5u her +5 is 9.2...so glad I didn't increase it
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Nice to see a blue. Since you are using a human meter keep in mind that a 9.2 is still above normal. Ideally you'd like to see her closer to a 5 at nadir.... But given the high preshot 9 is good.
 
JanetNJ said:
Nice to see a blue. Since you are using a human meter keep in mind that a 9.2 is still above normal. Ideally you'd like to see her closer to a 5 at nadir.... But given the high preshot 9 is good.
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JanetNJ said:
Nice to see a blue. Since you are using a human meter keep in mind that a 9.2 is still above normal. Ideally you'd like to see her closer to a 5 at nadir.... But given the high preshot 9 is good.
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Yes I know it's still too high, but hopefully tomorrows result's will be as good
 
I have no idea what's going on with Molly, her bg isn't going down much at all now...Her food is the same, the insulin isn't old, been open about 5 weeks...She's eating and drinking normally, litter habits normal, everything is normal apart from these damn readings...Can anyone shed some light please, as I'm clueless as to what's going on
 
She has the odd good am bg then the next day it's high again, totally confused, and doesn't seem like we're getting anywhere
 
Sue Hammond said:
I have no idea what's going on with Molly, her bg isn't going down much at all now...Her food is the same, the insulin isn't old, been open about 5 weeks...She's eating and drinking normally, litter habits normal, everything is normal apart from these damn readings...Can anyone shed some light please, as I'm clueless as to what's going on
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Insulin needs change. If it’s not enough then raise the dose a bit.
 
Yes but sometimes her amps is only around the 6 mark so nervous about increasing the dose, if I increase it it could come crashing down during the night, she's never the same two days running now sometimes high, sometimes low...2 days ago she was only 6 amps so had no insulin, if I'd increased the night before when she was high God knows what might have happened during the night
 
Sue Hammond said:
Yes but sometimes her amps is only around the 6 mark so nervous about increasing the dose, if I increase it it could come crashing down during the night, she's never the same two days running now sometimes high, sometimes low...2 days ago she was only 6 amps so had no insulin, if I'd increased the night before when she was high God knows what might have happened during the night
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Increase the dose for higher preshots. Lower the dose for lower preshots.

You could try
7-10 0.5u
10-12 1u
12-15 1.5u
15-17 1.75U
17+ 2u
 
JanetNJ said:
Increase the dose for higher preshots. Lower the dose for lower preshots.

You could try
7-10 0.5u
10-12 1u
12-15 1.5u
15-17 1.75U
17+ 2u
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Ok thank you, I just worry about giving 2u at night as she sometimes has dropped to 6 by morning, also I didn't think you should give any if it's under 10bg?
 
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