If I were you I'd post this concern at the Suggestions, Tech Support & Testing Area Click Here to get There - they can help you with technical details. I am no techy either.
Sorry, I haven't used Prozinc so won't comment on dosing. You might get more experienced users over in the Prozinc/PZI forum.
My PC is rather is in its "golden years" -I see #REF! in the cells in the US Sheet, no numbers or colors.
??It's a bit early in the game to be making any major judgement calls. I agree it would be helpful to get some numbers in the evening cycle and getting a test before bed is always a good idea so you sleep better and don't have any surprises. My first thought it that Chester has bounced and may just be coming out of it. I'd hold the dose until tomorrow, try to get at least a +2 or +3 reading in the evening cycle and then have a look at it tomorrow. The more data you get the easier it is to start seeing patterns and that is how you make dosing determinations.
Chester is getting some pretty wide spread on his numbers. The 9.7 and then back up to 21.5 on the 9th looks like a bounce. The AMPS of 6.8 and PMPS of 28 on the 10th makes me wonder just how low Chester might have gone in the cycle. I would not recommend shooting a full dose on any pre-shot reading under 11mmol until you get a lot more data. So I stick with 1u for now? Sorry - still getting used to the terminology
If you get a pre-shot reading of less than 11 mmol, stall (?)without feeding and retest in 15 to 20 minutes to see if his BG is rising or not. You can stall any number of times (?) but doing so will impact your shot times and may not be practical if you are working or have to go out for any other reason. If stalling is going to cause a problem time wise for future shots, better to just skip than shoot too low a BG as long as Chester doesn't have a history of DKA. If he does have a history of ketones or DKA, then I would post for assistance as it might be better to consider a reduced dose shot. Because Chester was a stray, there is very little history on him
To convert UK readings to US readings simply multiply the UK reading by 18.
No I don't think you need to be worried right now. Just make sure you don't shoot that low just yet.
Are you adding a supplement into Chester's raw food to ensure he's getting a balanced diet including taurine?
If no one told you about Chester having ketones or DKA, it's probably not been an issue but ketones are something you want to keep an eye out for. Some cats are more prone than others and they are usually but not always associated with higher BG. Any ketones above trace are cause for a vet visit.
You'll get used to all the jargon in no time but if any of us use terms you don't understand, just ask. We all had to learn this new "language"!
The raw he has is balanced in that it does have the necessary organs for taurine etc There is one I occasionally add for one of my cats, but it has a cheesy base (i think - in that it has a very cheesy smell lol). For the life of me, I cant remember the name of it, but it comes from over the pond and highly recommended in the BARF circles. "
Sorry. I know this is a lot to take in at once but in a week you'll have it all down to a science so just keep your sense of humour and you and Chester will do just fine.
And now that I think about it, you are using an AT2 meter with FS strips so I am going to change that 11 mmol no shot limit to 12 to 14mmol to account for the pet meter values. Sorry I am really not trying to confuse you!
Stalling just means delaying. So if you test and Chester's BG is below 12 to 14 mmol, don't feed Chester, wait for 15 to 20 minutes and test him again to see if his BG has gone up. If it's rising and he's between 12 & 14 then you can feed him and give his usual dose of insulin. If he is staying the same or the second test is lower, then your choices are to stall again and repeat the above steps, give a reduced dose of half or 3/4 of his usual dose depending on how low the BG is, or you just skip the shot and start over again at the next shot time. This is when asking for advice can come in handy until you get more familiar with both the insulin and Chester's reaction to it.
Hope that is clearer. You're doing fine so no worries. And keep the questions coming. It's the only way we all learned!
Exactly! You got this. Just take it one step at a time. If you are unsure or need confirmation just holler! ALthough there are slow times on the board, someone is usually online.
With 7 horses and now 5 cats, its the one thing that gets me though I got a meep and a purr from Chessie Bear just now and that made my heart very happy
I think it is good to beef him up, if he is thin. I feed the "ideal weight" of my cat (determined by vets). She is supposed to be 9 lbs and it means just less than 200 Kcal in 24 hours. Practically: 2 x 2.8 or less Tiki Cat canned food per 24 hours with plenty of water added.
He really is such a special little man. He's only been here since Tuesday, but my heart melted for him the moment I saw him. He absolutely has a home for life here, I hope Im good enough for him. I don't give up easily though lol. 
I had to reassure him that I was more than happy to home test (once Id worked out how to use the AT2 ) Id like to be able to see him when he's back in the surgery, with some data for him that he can cool off with
Good afternoon! I'm just seeing this now and having my morning coffee! A little slow on the draw today. I'm usually up much earlier.
Chester is fine. And so are you. With that reading this AMPS of 13.4mmol you could have given Chester his full 1 unit dose. If he's between 12 and 14mmol or above, then just give his regular dose. No change is needed unless he is below 12 mmol. Not to worry though, he will get back on track tonight and we have a saying around here that better too high for a day than too low for a moment so staying on the conservative side is never a problem.
Pet meters generally read higher than human meters and there is no way to convert the numbers from a human meter to pet meter numbers. That is why we provided a range of numbers to you and I can understand fully why you were reluctant to shoot the full dose this morning given the instructions you were given. There is also a pesky thing called meter variance which with the AT2 is 20%. So any reading you get can be up to 20% higher or 20% lower than what is shown on the meter screen. That is another reason why we cannot give you exact numbers to follow.
Chalk this up to experience and next time you get into a situation like that and are not quite sure what to do, post for assistance. Hopefully someone will be around to assist.
Thank you. Still getting my head round it. Amazing how that 1/2 drops makes a huge difference. Ive coaxed him into having a few mouthfuls and left him camped in the kitchen by the water Im gong to end up wearing a wig at this point lol. Catch you later. xx
Many here give the methylcobalamin version of vitamin B12 if the kitty has any signs of diabetic neuropathy. You can use the human form so long as it doesn't have any added sugar/artificial sweetener. It's tasteless and breaks up easily in water before putting food in the dish. The neuropathy dose is 3 mg per day. It can also help with energy level.Morning!
I was thinking of giving him a specific cat Vit B (no phosphorus) - yay / nay?
Off into town to get him some Ketostix.
Enjoy your coffee - best drink of the day
I'm somewhat awake now!
There is a company in uk that does cat Vit b but he's out of stock at the mo. Where do you usually get yours from? I'm sure I can source over here x
Coffee hit the spot!
Are you concerned about diabetic neuropathy? Has Chester shown any signs of back leg weakness? Or is this just a supplement you want to add for other reasons?
He generally lacks energy too.
There's a supplement called Zobaline in the US that many use (ordered online) but it would be very pricey to buy from the UK. You can buy any inexpensive generic B12 supplement from a human pharmacy. Check the label to see that it's the "methylcobalamin" version and not the cyanocobalamin type. Make sure there's no sugar or sweetener added. They're often available in a variety of dosage levels often given in micrograms. FYI - 1000 mcg = 1 mg - so go from there. You could give several doses a day to add up to 3 mg. It's water soluble so overdosing shouldn't be an issue.He's generally very weak. Not quite plantigrade, but I wouldn't put him out in a breeze either
His urine doesn't smell as strong as it did when he first arrived, but we are still struggling a bit to get his stools right. At least his tum isn't gurgling as it was
Thank goodness he has you to help him get on the path to good health! He's a lucky little guy.
I'll try again later. I've left the horses out. Less effort for later lol. x
I think that supplement is fine. Don't worry about the mention of cellulose. Cats aren't herbivores and can't digest it. Maybe start with only 1 tablet a day to see if he tolerates it.https://www.naturesbest.co.uk/mobile/vitamin-b12-1000-methylcobalamin-p621/?src=govits
Me again Could I ask your opinion on this brand of B12 please? I checked out my usual supplier. He doesn't have it in stock, BUT I also noticed it was the synthetic version!
This one doesn't mention phosphorus but doesn't appear to have sweeteners etc.
Am currently cat walking I thought it might be nice for Chessie to get some fresh air in the yard. Horses on the other side of the house are TERRIFYING lol.
I saw that too but I'm not up on acceptable phoshorus levels.
He doesn't really have a favourite spot in the tray. He tends to use a side to lean on a little though bless him.
for AJay.@TempestsMum OMG! Thank you so much for letting us know Tara. Good that she tested. Sending prayers and vines for Chester and
. I am feeling a bit guilty right now because I was trying to make sure AJay understood when to shoot and when not to and I think my message got misunderstood so this morning she only gave a tiny shot. Had we known about any ketone or DKA history, instructions would have taken that into account.Yikes! That is unforgiveable!
Chester grabbed me because my first kitty as an adult was a beautiful ginger boy! I'm so glad AJay has you available for more personal moral and technical support than the board alone can offer! Sometimes a real voice makes all the difference.
Yikes! That is unforgiveable!
Chester grabbed me because my first kitty as an adult was a beautiful ginger boy! I'm so glad AJay has you available for more personal moral and technical support than the board alone can offer! Sometimes a real voice makes all the difference.
xx
I said pretty much what you just did to her earlier, that had we known about any earlier dka/keytones the instructions would have been different.
At the end of the day AJay and all of us can only go on the information we are given. And I do feel it was extremely remiss of the vet not to have given her ALL the necessary information when she picked him up.
He reminds me of my Crunchie (ga) still missing him desperately and still wondering if I could have done more etc you know how it goes.
Well, I tend to get a little overwhelmed with everything on the forums and find it hard to keep up,with people sometimes and lose track of threads etc. I don't know how you all do it! so this time it was nice to actually feel useful and be a bit more personal with someone. It was so helpful to be able to actually see the strip and I got her to double check via video feed so I could be absolutely sure.
I wish I could do more for everyone.