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You may need to increase the quantity of food you feed Brady and Emma.
But feed it earlier in the cycle.

Maybe another 1/8 to 1/4 can of the Friskies at +2 and then again at +4.

From my read of your notes at the top of your SS, you are feeding Brady 3/4 or a can of Friskies at each pre-shot.
So 1 1/2 cans a day with the pre-shot tests
Plus 1/8 of a can at +6 each 12 hour cycle. So that is an additional 1/4 can a day.
For a total of 1 3/4 cans per day.

I don't think that is enough for Brady right now.

Unregulated diabetic cats are very hungry. They can not properly process all the food they are eating.
So it can be necessary to feed more until Brady is better regulated.

I remember that Wink was eating around 10-11 ounces a day. Sometimes more. Plus some freeze dried treats. And he was a smaller cat, 10-11 pounds. But he did need to gain some weight back, as he had lost too much weight when I switched him from dry food to wet.

Especially with Brady's ketone history, he needs to be fed a bit more food.

Have you tested for ketones today?
 
Tagging you @Irish Pat so you can see if it shows up in your alerts when you are signed on.

The Fancy Feast pate styles are good and low carb. Can be hard to find right now, with the panic buying. Get creative in where you shop. You want to look for the Classic Pate styles, or the roasted/chunky/flaked styles are all low carb and good for a diabetic cat. Don't know if your cats will like the different texture.

The FF Roasted Chicken Feast is tiny pieces of chicken in a sort of gravy. But the gravy is made with just a little bit of wheat gluten and soy flour. Not enough to be a concern with a diabetic cat. Usually. Some cats are really carb sensitive. It's a bit of trial and error to find that out.
 
Fancy Feast Savory Centers are safe to use. It's more sauce/juice vs the gravy they state on cans.

I only use the chicken and the beef flavors. All my cats love it. It certainly is more wet than typical pate. Great for mixing pills or supplements into.
 
Deb & Wink said:
You may need to increase the quantity of food you feed Brady and Emma.
But feed it earlier in the cycle.

Maybe another 1/8 to 1/4 can of the Friskies at +2 and then again at +4.

From my read of your notes at the top of your SS, you are feeding Brady 3/4 or a can of Friskies at each pre-shot.
So 1 1/2 cans a day with the pre-shot tests
Plus 1/8 of a can at +6 each 12 hour cycle. So that is an additional 1/4 can a day.
For a total of 1 3/4 cans per day.

I don't think that is enough for Brady right now.

Unregulated diabetic cats are very hungry. They can not properly process all the food they are eating.
So it can be necessary to feed more until Brady is better regulated.

I remember that Wink was eating around 10-11 ounces a day. Sometimes more. Plus some freeze dried treats. And he was a smaller cat, 10-11 pounds. But he did need to gain some weight back, as he had lost too much weight when I switched him from dry food to wet.

Especially with Brady's ketone history, he needs to be fed a bit more food.

Have you tested for ketones today?
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He only eats so much at a sitting...I wish he would eat 3/4 of a can, that's why we are doing this spread out thing so he does keep up his calories....Trust me he eats, just not a big bowl full in one shot. He really never did. Or Emma
 
Irish Pat said:
Since they are both purina products do you guys feel it will be ok just to give it to them?
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Yes.

Not the Fancy Feast Gravy Lover's. Those are high carb, and something you want for your hypo kit.

Have you seen this food chart? Not every canned food is on there, because the chart is from 2017, and manufacturers have introduced lots of new foods since then. Like the Fancy Feast Savory Centers are a newer product, but safe for a diabetic cat. Or Fancy Feast Naturals are ok too.
https://catinfo.org/docs/CatFoodProteinFatCarbPhosphorusChart.pdf

Look for foods that are <= 10% carbs on that food chart. Some cats even do ok on 12% carbs. Keep the protein levels up, above 40% is recommended for a diabetic cat. Unless there is advanced kidney disease. Then you want lower protein.

In fact, the carb levels on the Fancy Feast are probably lower than the
Friskies pates you are feeding Brady now.
 
Deb & Wink said:
Yes.

Not the Fancy Feast Gravy Lover's. Those are high carb, and something you want for your hypo kit.

Have you seen this food chart? Not every canned food is on there, because the chart is from 2017, and manufacturers have introduced lots of new foods since then. Like the Fancy Feast Savory Centers are a newer product, but safe for a diabetic cat. Or Fancy Feast Naturals are ok too.
https://catinfo.org/docs/CatFoodProteinFatCarbPhosphorusChart.pdf

Look for foods that are <= 10% carbs on that food chart. Some cats even do ok on 12% carbs. Keep the protein levels up, above 40% is recommended for a diabetic cat. Unless there is advanced kidney disease. Then you want lower protein.

In fact, the carb levels on the Fancy Feast are probably lower than the
Friskies pates you are feeding Brady now.
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Oh yes now that's something I can research and get good results, lol....We are staying under the 10% carbs and trying to get just the higher protein foods in Friskies but thought we would now try adding in FF just because of the crabs and proteins. I wish this disease was all that easy on the research end of things.....
 
Deb & Wink said:
So @Morgan Williams You'll want to be in the right forum. So go over to Feline Health - (Welcome & Main Forum)
In the upper right hand corner, you will see a blue box that says "Post New Thread". Click on that box.
A new screen opens up, where you will be able to enter a title. Do that. Make it relevant to your question. Let people know you are new by including the words New Member at the beginning of that title.
There is a text box below that title area, where you start to type what you want to say.
When you are done, click on the "Create thread" box at the bottom of the text box.

Other navigation tips are in the
Announcements & How to use the FDMB

There is a "Sticky" or pinned post at the top of that forum.
Sticky HOW-TO USE THE FDMB: The Basics

That gives you some basics for navigating. Look at the #2 post in that The Basics sticky for navigation tips.

It should have been part of your welcome email when you joined the forum.
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Thank you Debbie, I'm on a desktop now and it seems to be working, but it keeps throwing an error message up telling me my post is spam?
 
Pat, have you found our
Health Links / FAQs about Feline Diabetes forum yet?
There is an Index at the top, with tons of links to information and articles when you open it.
Sticky INDEX: Health Links/FAQs

I don't usually point people to the entire index, but try to pick relevant links to answer more immediate questions.

There are also the Prozinc ISG group "Sticky" or pinned posts at the top of this forum.
Lantus ISG has their own set of "Sticky" or pinned posts. Not all relevant to Prozinc, but there are some things there that cross over and are good knowledge to have no matter what insulin you use.
 
Irish Pat said:
Oh yes now that's something I can research and get good results,
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joji has spent a lot of time with that pdf. not just for carb info, but also for phosphorus data since kit has urinary issues. we've tried a variety of combos to find something that meets the criteria and doesn't give her other gastro issues. even though kit is a pretty willing eater, sometimes we have to mix it up to keep her interested. we also mix water in with her wet food bc otherwise she doesn't really drink.
^jw
 
Hi Pat, I hate to ask this, but when posts get long that can cause difficulties.

Would you please start a new thread, and link this old one in at the top of the new thread?
Thank you.

p.s. Don't want the moderators to get mad at me for not asking people to do this. Don't want the database behind the scenes that runs this message board to have problems either. :(
 
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