Don’t worry about the stress of throwing up. That shouldn’t be a factor. Do you have any antinausea like Cerenia or ondansetron?
No, he hasn't needed it before. What happens if he doesn't have any food down by the 2-hour mark? I think he will be willing to eat, he doesn't look bad, I just worry about trying again too soon. But of course don't want to try too late if that will have bad results.
No, just the occasional normal vomiting. From eating too fast (what I think happened tonight) or hairball.
It’s hard to say without data on testing. How long since the shot? I’d wait a little to give him a chance to get over it
lol I did now just need to eat itSorry for picking on you @jt and trouble (GA) - could see you were around and is a penalty of being on my always so helpful from USA list. Hope you saved your dinner
Ale I see in her signature the free style libre sensor
A bit over an hour since the first time, maybe twenty minutes since the second.
Does he have on the freestyle libre sensor, I see it in your signature
Yes, he does. He was at 279 pre-shot, +1 305.
Will empty stomach + Lantus make him go down that far??
He actually is only just starting insulin again after an unexpected break of a couple of weeks -- I want to add the values he had during that time but have not had time. I have just posted the spreadsheet, but you will see it doesn't have much info to work with. But from what little there is, it seems like insulin sends him down quickly -- his nadirs were before six hours.
Ale she has the SS filled in
Sorry for the delay in writing again, he came up and sat on me and purred and demanded scritches for a long time. Just jumped down to have a few more bites of the baby food. Looks like he is at around 280 now at about 2-1/2 hours out. So, close to where he was before the shot. I will continue to watch and worry but am cautiously hoping that these are good signs and will continue.
OK that sounds good , glad he had some more baby food. Can you put that 280 in the spreadsheet please , you would put 280 @+2.5
What would you suggest? The vet told me 1/4 unit if he was at 250 and had eaten; if he is lower than 250, she doesn't want me to shoot. She also thought he could do just one shot a day. I didn't think that was right based on what I have read here and asked her about the importance of twice a day doses on Lantus due to it being a depot insulin and she said, "Well, it's twice a day for some cats, once for others, it really just depends on the cat." Editing to add that he started out at 1 unit and then 1/2 but seemed sensitive to that much, so decreased to 1/4.
I am going to tag a few people that might suggest a no shoot number for you.
Thank you Diane! Let’s see if we all agreeI am going to tag a few people that might suggest a no shoot number for you.
No way should you give lantus once a day.
@Bron and Sheba (GA)
@Panic
@tiffmaxee
@Deb & Wink
Ladies would you mind taking a look at Jenny's spreadsheet.
She made some notes on it.
Comet has the freestyle libre sensor on.
Please take a look at what's been happening
Thanks so much
And have you read all the yellow sticky notes on the Lantus forum? In particular, the one about the dosing protocols because it gives you suggested shoot and no shoot ranges. Honestly, I get nervous still under 200 but yesterday I gave Minnie her full dose with an amps of 148 and with the help of folks here she stayed safe all day and in the green range which is what we want. And her numbers are better today because of it. You have to push the comfortable boundary a little to get better results.
I have read and wonder how you get the guts to do it. We've had to run to the emergency vet twice due to sudden lows -- they thought he was sensitive to the insulin, so we moved to the 1/4 unit. But he's been on it for such a short time, it's hard to tell what would be right. I am so anxious about everything all the time.
Yes, in September. The vet doesn't want him to go below 70, at least not yet. We had two scares in September.
The first one was very early on after they had done a curve and told me that's all I needed to know. I came home after running an errand and he was hiding someplace he never goes. I took one look at him, scooped him up, and ran. The vet who took him in at the practice that day confirmed he had gone too low. They kept him overnight to be safe.