Help! Is sugar baby going hypo?

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Hi! Just bumping your post up. If you go to the "edit title" button and add the "?" to your title it will get more attention. It's a fairly fast drop, so I'd test at +2.5 (but I'm a test-a-holic; +3 is most likely fine). Also, if you post in the Prozinc forum you will possibly get a faster response from those familiar with that insulin. While you're waiting for a response, maybe reread the hypo stickies in preparation and get some high carb food ready just in case :) I'm not familiar at all with Prozinc insulin so don't panic, but I like to be prepared. With love, Nikki

ETA I see I cross posted with Chris...you're in good hands now :)
 
I did anither test just a few mins ago. It would have been 40 mins after +2. She is still at 89. I gave her the gummies of honey and some high carb stuff.
 
Btwinny said:
I did anither test just a few mins ago. It would have been 40 mins after +2. She is still at 89. I gave her the gummies of honey and some high carb stuff.
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So the honey is affecting that number, but won't for long.
The high carb stuff isn't really kicking in yet but will soon and for a little while.

I'd still be vigilant in case the honey wears off before the food kicks in... and vigilant around nadir when the high carb food will be wearing off probably...and vigilant in general lol
 
89 is still a perfectly safe number

We don't usually pull out the high carb food or Karo/honey/syrup until they drop below 50 on a human meter.
 
I know it's scary seeing the lower numbers for the first time but you've got this! Maybe post a 911 on the prozinc forum if she continues to drop or any major changes in behavior but don't panic :)
 
Yeah it's good that you're on the ball!!

That quick drop is your "early warning" that Scout may be dropping lower later in the cycle, but what we want to do is give them just enough carbs to get them stable (not continuing to drop too much more) but not give them too much and send them to the moon.
 
AmandaJean said:
I know it's scary seeing the lower numbers for the first time but you've got this! Maybe post a 911 on the prozinc forum if she continues to drop or any major changes in behavior but don't panic :)
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I cross posted both places. We're only 2 1/2 weeks into diagnosis and this is our first concernable drop so I was impatient for advice
 
Chris & China (GA) said:
Yeah it's good that you're on the ball!!

That quick drop is your "early warning" that Scout may be dropping lower later in the cycle, but what we want to do is give them just enough carbs to get them stable (not continuing to drop too much more) but not give them too much and send them to the moon.
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Lol What's too much? Now I'm freaking I did too much.
 
Btwinny said:
What's too much? Now I'm freaking I did too much.
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Now we're getting into the ECID department!...LOL (Every Cat Is Different)….but don't freak...no matter what, you're getting important data so that the next time (and there's always a "next time") you'll do better!!
 
Btwinny said:
I cross posted both places. We're only 2 1/2 weeks into diagnosis and this is our first concernable drop so I was impatient for advice
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50% drop in 2 hours definitely requires timely action, you did good.

She's going to rebound just from that drop alone, so give her whatever she needs to stay as stable as possible tonight, the rebound is a problem for another day. Unfortunately they can last 72 hours but she cleared that one on 19th very well so I wouldn't worry too much about that right now.

All that matters right now is keeping her safe and steady.

Better to be too high than too low as my vet just reminded me today lol and I read here somewhere something like a day too high is better than a minute too low.

You're doing great, just keep testing and monitoring her behavior, you've got all the tools you need and so much support here.
 
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Chris & China (GA) said:
Now we're getting into the ECID department!...LOL (Every Cat Is Different)….but don't freak...no matter what, you're getting important data so that the next time (and there's always a "next time") you'll do better!!
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. I wondered what ECID stood for. I'm looking at all of this as a huge numbers game. (I know you've helped me on FB.... My last name is Baumgartner.... . Thank you!!)
 
Jasper Blue and Jay said:
100% drop in 2 hours definitely requires timely action, you did good.

She's going to rebound just from that drop alone, so give her whatever she needs to stay as stable as possible tonight, the rebound is a problem for another day. Unfortunately they can last 72 hours but she cleared that one on 19th very well so I wouldn't worry too much about that right now.

All that matters right now is keeping her safe and steady.

Better to be too high than too low as my vet just reminded me today lol and I read here somewhere something like a day too high is better than a minute too low.

You're doing great, just keep testing and monitoring her behavior, you've got all the tools you need and so much support here.
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When you say rebounded on the 19th.... Do you mean the red 400+? Part of me wondered if I did a fur shot. It was weird because when I pulled the needle out of her scruff I felt like I didn't plunge. It was weird but I didn't dare re-do
 
Btwinny said:
Lol What's too much? Now I'm freaking I did too much.
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Nah, she had just dropped 50% in 2 hours.

You didn't inject glucose into her, you just fed her. And the honey doesn't stick around very long at all.
You did good. Now you know for next time you can probably wait a bit before you need honey and high carbs, but she did need something to slow that drop and low carb food probably wouldn't have done enough fast enough at the rate she was dropping.

If she continued at the same pace she would have been at what at +3? 40?

No need to risk that. She already endured a huge drop very very quickly, that is very taxing on their tiny bodies.

Read up on insulin rebounds, (tomorrow when you have a chance lol) they can last up to 72 hours and they don't have to go hypo to have one, any big decrease can cause them, especially when its that fast.


You did good tonight, you tested early enough to catch it and had what you needed on hand to handle it, and now you have information for next time she's so low at PS.
 
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When you say rebounded on the 19th.... Do you mean the red 400+? Part of me wondered if I did a fur shot. It was weird because when I pulled the needle out of her scruff I felt like I didn't plunge. It was weird but I didn't dare re-do
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Yeah , best not to re-do just in case.
 
Btwinny said:
When you say rebounded on the 19th.... Do you mean the red 400+?
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That could have very well been what we call a "bounce"

Bounces happen when 1. they drop too low, 2. they drop too quickly, 3. they drop into numbers their body isn't used to anymore (or any combination of all 3)

On the PM cycle of the 18th, she dropped almost 100 points in 2 hours.....she may have dropped much lower (and it would have been prudent to continue testing that night)

The liver releases stored sugars and hormones to bring them back up quickly.....and then it can take up to 6 cycles for those sugars and hormones to clear out.
 
Jasper Blue and Jay said:
Nah, she had just dropped 100% in 2 hours.

You didn't inject glucose into her, you just fed her. And the honey doesn't stick around very long at all.
You did good. Now you know for next time you can probably wait a bit before you need honey and high carbs, but she did need something to slow that drop and low carb food probably wouldn't have done enough fast enough at the rate she was dropping.

If she continued at the same pace she would have been at what at +3? 40?

No need to risk that. She already endured a huge drop very very quickly, that is very taxing on their tiny bodies.

Read up on insulin rebounds, (tomorrow when you have a chance lol) they can last up to 72 hours and they don't have to go hypo to have one, any big decrease can cause them, especially when its that fast.


You did good tonight, you tested early enough to catch it and had what you needed on hand to handle it, and now you have information for next time she's so low at PS.
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It's officially +4 and she tested 96. I really don't think she ate a lot of med/high carb food.... Just a couple nibbles. Is the panic over?
 
Thank you everyone for staying up with me and guiding us through our first hypo. Looking at her she seems to just be annoyed cause i won't leave her alone. Lol
 
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Btwinny said:
It's officially +4 and she tested 96. I really don't think she ate a lot of med/high carb food.... Just a couple nibbles. Is the panic over?
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Probably.
She didn't nadir til +8 a couple of times though and since she's so new to this and responding so strongly to insulin, I'd still watch her.

89 and 96 are basically the same on these meters and she did eat and have honey so I'd still watch her.
 
Btwinny said:
Thank you everyone for staying up with me and guiding us through our first hypo. Looking at her she seems to just be annoyed cause i won't leave her alone. Lol
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My guy gets irritable and does not want to be touched even if he's only around 130-170 so I don't blame her!

I get very confused and irritable when my blood sugar is low, so again , I don't blame her! lol ;)
 
Bron and Sheba said:
Don’t ever give insulin again if you think you might have given a fur shot. You have no way of telling if some insulin got in or not. And if you give it again you risk giving too much insulin and having to deal with a hypo.
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Yup. I've been reading a lot and learned never, ever too much. When in doubt less is better
 
Just fyi when you get a chance before it gets filled in too much, seems like you have an extra column in your ss after nightly +4.

If you want you can add data from the extra shots in the hour cell it took place in, just add the time, and then manually fill in the cell with the appropriate color.
 
Jasper Blue and Jay said:
Just fyi when you get a chance before it gets filled in too much, seems like you have an extra column in your ss after nightly +4.

If you want you can add data from the extra shots in the hour cell it took place in, just add the time, and then manually fill in the cell with the appropriate color.
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. I just made it worse!!!! There's a button to add columns but not remove. Lol
 
Btwinny said:
. I just made it worse!!!! There's a button to add columns but not remove. Lol
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lmao!

Right click on the cell where the +number would be... should be an option there to delete column..if you accidentally delete something you want to keep, don't do anything else until you hit "undo"...
 
Jasper Blue and Jay said:
lmao!

Right click on the cell where the +number would be... should be an option there to delete column..if you accidentally delete something you want to keep, don't do anything else until you hit "undo"...
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I'm in my phone..... Don't have a right click. Only this comes up.....
 

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Anyone still up? So it's officially+5 and she tested at 86. Hasn't eaten for about 1.5 hours. Has she stabilized? Should I test again in a bit?
 
Btwinny said:
Anyone still up? So it's officially+5 and she tested at 86. Hasn't eaten for about 1.5 hours. Has she stabilized? Should I test again in a bit?
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She sometimes nadirs as late as +8 and she's been showing a pattern of being a slow riser later in the cycle...

I am neurotic and perhaps an overtester...but...

Personally I would still test. And make sure food is available.
 
And is it a good sign that she hasn't dropped at all in the last few hours? Or could that be food influenced?
 
Btwinny said:
And is it a good sign that she hasn't dropped at all in the last few hours? Or could that be food influenced?
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yes it's good that she has been surfing in those pretty green numbers!! If she hasn't had any food for 1.5 hours, that's really good.....we're just not sure she's totally out of the woods yet so you should get at least 1 more test (without having to feed her to "prop her up") that shows she's stable or rising
 
Btwinny said:
And is it a good sign that she hasn't dropped at all in the last few hours? Or could that be food influenced?
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Because there was honey and high carb food... really... personally... I'm surprised it didn't rise at some point already, the honey early and the food a bit later...being that early in the cycle too.

I think it's really good you caught it when you did.

Not a good sign or a bad sign, it was just a lot of insulin at that PS# considering how she'd been trending...
 
I'm 99% sure she hasn't eaten since I gave her the Sheba snack and that was before +3. (Probably 11:30pm... It's now 1:37 am). She's just been chilling with me.
 
Jasper Blue and Jay said:
Because there was honey and high carb food... really... personally... I'm surprised it didn't rise at some point already, the honey early and the food a bit later...being that early in the cycle too.

I think it's really good you caught it when you did.

Not a good sign or a bad sign, it was just a lot of insulin at that PS# considering how she'd been trending...
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I always make sure to test her before I go to bed. Sucks for me because i have to get up in 4.5 hours. .
 
And regarding her BG not riding.... I was expecting it to at some point. I'm not convinced she ate much of the high carb. Pretty sure her greedy little sister got wind of it and devoured it. Lol
 
Btwinny said:
And regarding her BG not riding.... I was expecting it to at some point. I'm not convinced she ate much of the high carb. Pretty sure her greedy little sister got wind of it and devoured it. Lol
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lol ok... we have a sneaky sibling too!

But you really gotta know how much she's getting if this happens again! lol
 
I'm going to take a nap. Remember if she does go around hypo range and you need help right away put 911 in the title.

But you're doing great so I'm sure she'll be fine.

:bighug:
 
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