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katelax26

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Hello everyone-

My name is Kate and our 5 year old male cat was diagnosed with diabetes. I'm overwhelmed and scared, but it sounds like that is normal. My husband and I love to travel and have already had to cancel our much needed weekend away for this upcoming weekend. I would ideally like to connect with people in my area that are going through this. Maybe even set up some pet sitting trade offs. As anyone had luck with doing this? How did you find the other diabetic kitty owners?

Thanks for your help!
 
Hi and welcome! We'd love to help you help your kitty. Yes, we were all terrified at first. It does get easier, promise.

You can include your city and state in your subject line to find others near you. You can also go up to the search function at the top of this page and put your city in the search line to see if there are posts with that city in it.

Tell us some more. Kitty's name and age. Kind of insulin, dose. Are you testing at home? What kind of food? As you read, you'll see that we advocate wet, low carb food, hometesting and a long lasting, mild acting insulin.
 
Welcome Kate and unknown kitty!

Yes, let us know what city/state/country you reside in and see if there is anyone close.

Ask us all the questions you have and someone should be able to answer them in some form or another.

heather
 
Welcome!
There is a bit of a learning curve to be sure, but it is do-able.
If you get your kitty on low carb food, a long acting insulin (Lantus, Levemir, ProZinc, or BCCP PZI) with regular appropriate dosing, it is possible he may become diet-controlled.
 
Re: Hello from Hermosa Beach, CA

You all are so sweet to respond. Zorro is my kitty and we live in Hermosa Beach, CA. They have him on 2 units of Lantus twice a day. They told us to start giving him Hill Prescription diet m/d in the morning and evening.

BJM- my fingers are crossed that maybe he won't need insulin for his entire life :-/ We were just diagnosed so I don't know about at home testing yet. I do have to take him back in 10-14 days for a blood glucose curve.

Thanks again for the support :)
 
Hi and welcome!

Lantus is good. 2u is a higher dose than we usually recommend starting with - we like to start at 0.5 or 1u and go up in slow increments after letting each dose change "settle" for a few days. I assume you bought the vial (10ml)... we actually recommend buying the OptiClik/SoloStar pen cartridges... it is basically 5 small vials of 3ml of insulin. It's more expensive upfront but cheaper in the long run because you can use all of the insulin in the pens, whereas the vial tends to go bad after a few months, even if it's handled properly and kept in the fridge, so you're just throwing away $$$!

However, Hills m/d is higher in carbs than what we recommend, so it will probably counteract the 2u of insulin. I believe it is around 13% carbs.... we recommend less than 7%. Less carbs = less need for insulin, so don't change the diet until you are testing at home and can see how the numbers are changing. Janet and Binky's list has the carbohydrate values on some common foods. Just pick one you can afford and your cat likes! You can also feed more than twice a day - unregulated diabetics can't properly process the food they're eating (why weight loss is a common sign) and so they are very hungry all the time. Eating twice a day is no fun for a human and a cat's metabolism is twice as fast as ours! 4 meals a day is a good number for most, though some do more. You don't want to feed within 2 hours before each insulin shot, so that your preshot blood glucose check aren't inflated by food.

You don't need to take your cat in for a curve at the vets. This is a waste of money and often leads to the vet prescribing your cat too much insulin. Vets, as we know, are high stress environments, and stress can make your cat's blood glucose skyrocket up 100+ points. It even happens to non diabetics. So when the vet does the curve and sees nothing but high numbers, he automatically says "give more insulin!" but when you get your cat home to his comfortable environment his numbers drop back down, and now you're shooting that big dose into lower numbers... very dangerous. So save that money and put it towards buying a glucometer to test at home.

As far as home testing goes, we use human glucometers and poke our cat's ears just like human diabetics poke their fingers. Any human glucometer with cheap strips (the biggest expense of treating diabetes) - Walmart's Relion Confirm and Micro are two cheap and easy to find meters. Avoid the Freestyle Lite with the butterfly on the strips - these don't read over 300 for some reason on cats.

Feel free to ask as many questions as you want, there are lots of people here to answer :D
 
Hello Kate, and welcome to FDMB!

Five years old is quite young for a diagnosis of diabetes. Has your cat been on steroids at all? Just asking because steroids can cause diabetes in some cats...

Best wishes,

Elizabeth
 
Hi Kate and Zorro (what a cute name!) Welcome :)

I was overwhelmed at first too, but the knowledgeable folks here helped me get my kitty diet controlled and off insulin within a month. She's doing great now. I'm glad you reached out. :)

Lori
 
Hi Lori-

Your post gave me hope!!! I would LOVE to get to the point where Zorro doe snot need insulin. He is a tuxedo and his name comes from the fact that he looks like he is wearing a mask :)

What type of food do you feed Scout? How much does she get total per day? How often do you feed her? I appreciate the guidance. A one month turn around is amazing!!!
 
Hi all,
Lisa here, along with my cat Gus - recently diagnosed too. We went to vet for one curve and found out how expensive it is to do that. I received my free home testing kit from this website (THANK YOU!!), and performed my own curve successfully yesterday.
It really wasn't too bad. Gus is currently at 2 units of Lantus 2x/day, and has been prescribed Hill's w/d which I am currently mixing with what is left of his lo cal Hill's from the pet store. I would like to try some higher protien - lower carb food at some point, but I want to get Gus stable first. We are in Stoughton, WI about 30 miles from Madison. ~O)
I wish us all luck in continuing on this journey to good health for our kitties that we love so much!
Lisa
 
Hi Lisa,

I love tuxedo cats!!! Maybe you can get a pic up here so we can see his mask. :)

The most important thing is to feed ONLY canned food and NO dry food. I know that's a pain, but it is very important.

There's a list here "New Canned Food Table" that shows the % of carbs in a lot of different kinds of food: http://binkyspage.tripod.com/canfood.html

You want foods as low in % carbs as possible, definitely below 10% carbs. If you find food that's not on the list, you can look at the ingredients. The first couple of ingredients should be meat or fish, not chicken "meal" or "soy isolate" or any grains, potatoes, or peas. Don't get any food that comes in gravy. A lot of the premium brands have grain-free lines that are great for diabetics.

I feed Scout Wellness (Chicken and Salmon & Turkey flavors) and Blue Buffalo (duck, salmon, and chicken flavors). I also feed EVO Chicken & Turkey when I can find it. She gets a half a 5.5 oz can or a full 3 oz can, twice a day. She gets a third meal if I'm home and she's hungry and bothering me about it, and cooked chicken and freeze dried chicken as treats. Her ideal weight is probably 9 lbs but she's always been chubby and currently weighs about 11.5 lbs.

A lot of folks here feed brands you can find in the supermarket or the WalMart brand, "Special Kitty"... you don't have to go with the premium food. I just happen to have a non-diabetic who is a picky eater with a sensitive stomach so I stick with food that they will both eat and not have digestive issues with.

Some folks here got better blood sugar numbers by giving many small meals evenly spaced throughout the day. This is good if your cat gobbles down his food the second it hits the plate. Some tricks are to freeze the food so it will slowly thaw or to put food in a timed feeder. Scout generally grazes throughout the day so twice a day is fine for her.

Hope this helps!
Lori
 
katelax26 said:
Your post gave me hope!!! I would LOVE to get to the point where Zorro doe snot need insulin.

Do keep in mind that remission doesn't always come soon, nor does it always come for every cat. My Scooter is going on 8 months of insulin. There are a few cats on the forum going on a few years, some even more. It's not a bad thing to wish for remission, but the first thing you need to do is focus on regulation first - remission may or may not come afterwards. Remember, this is a marathon, not a sprint! Insulin or no insulin, as long as Zorro is feeling better that's all that really matters.

P.S My Scooter probably became diabetic around 5 yrs old too. His last owners knew he was sick but ignored it for months, and then abandoned him when the symptoms got too bad.
 
Our vet suggested Hill Prescription diet m/d. This is MUCH lower in carbs than what he was eating before, but still higher than what people here have suggested. We just started the insulin 2 days ago. Should I keep him on the Hill prescription while we get him regulated OR should we start the lower carb food now?

I'm also a bit concerned about the idea of giving him too much insulin. I know the symptoms to look for- acting drunk, lethargic etc but I'm curious how quickly you see these symptoms? I worried about heading to work and then the symptoms start while I'm gone......

Sorry for ALL the questions. We are super new to this and want to get him on the right track out of the gate!!
 
I covered that in my first post. 2u is a higher dose than we normally recommend and since you're not testing yet it is dangerous to lower the carbohydrate intake without being able to monitor the changes in blood glucose and lower your insulin dose accordingly. I guess you could switch to low carb and either stop insulin until you can test, or give a small dose like 0.5u? Someone else should confirm, I'm not a Lantus pro yet.

Not all cats show hypo symptoms, some hide it until they're full blown passed out or seizing and at that point they need to be hospitalized on a dextrose drip and could suffer permanent blindness, brain damage, or die. Scooter got down to 29 (on only 1.5u) without showing any symptoms but mild hunger. Had I not been testing who knows what would have happened. Looking for symptoms alone is NOT a reliable way to keep your cat safe from hypo... home testing is really the only way. I would advise you pick up a meter for testing ASAP!
 
I also covered that in my first post! :P

As far as home testing goes, we use human glucometers and poke our cat's ears just like human diabetics poke their fingers. Any human glucometer with cheap strips (the biggest expense of treating diabetes) - Walmart's Relion Confirm and Micro are two cheap and easy to find meters. Avoid the Freestyle Lite with the butterfly on the strips - these don't read over 300 for some reason on cats.

A few other "big brand" meters that work are the Bayer Contour, Accuchek Aviva, and OneTouch Ultra, but their strips tend to be more pricy. You can always order strips (and lancets/syringes) online too from places like American Diabetes Wholesale and Hocks.
 
We use the Relion Micro from Wal-Mart.

I now have the strips on auto-order from ADW (Shop icon at the top, look for the ADW tag on that page and click on it. FDMB gets a small commission if we take those links and purchase something) 250 for $72 (buy 4 boxes get 1 free). If my shipment is late I can still run to Wally world and pick up a 25 pack.
 
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