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Hi, I have a 3 1/2 yr old Maine Coon just diagnosed with diabetes. He will be starting to get insulin injections tuesday, the vet is teaching my husband and I how to do this. We are so shocked that he has this.

I learned about this place over at the Golden Retriever Forum since I also have a 7 month old Golden, I also have Merlin's brother Louie, a pure white Maine Coon and his health is excellent.

Looking forward to learning more about this condition and how to deal with it.
 
Hi Deb, and, of course, you too, sweet young Merlin,

Shocked is a good word to describe his diagnosis at his age. Are you okay? I mean it's scary; but, it's actually quite do-able. A lot of life can be lived in 12-hour increments...

Can you tell us what Merlin eats? Can you tell us what made you take him to the vet? I'm a water drinker by nature. Took Giz in shortly afte she became a water drinker and subsequent pee-er... What goes in, goes out... Had absolutely no clue until she was walking on her hocks...

Somehow, we figured out how to dance for four more years. Giz was 14 at diagnosis. Did I mention diabetes is do-able?

Welcome to the place you never wanted to be; but, will be blessed for having found.

Love and encouraging hugs for you all,
Deb and Nikki -- and, Giz, who taught me to be a better person...
 
Welcome! You have found a haven. We can help you do everything needed to care for your sweet Merlin. From feeding the best diet for diabetes (low-carb, wet food) to learning how to hometest Merlin's blood glucose levels. We can help you get Merlin back on track!
 
This place is a great resource. I have litter mates - Maisey - diabetic, her brother Vinney with a BG of 40. So not to worry that they will both be diabetic. ECID - Every Cat is Different - you'll see that a lot here. Take time to breathe and relax, this is doable. The first week or two are the hardest. Do test before each shot and switch to low carb wet food as you can - both of these make all the difference in the world.
 
Thank you everyone for your replies and support.

We are giving Merlin 2 injections a day and we have put him on DM Dietetic canned food and DM dry food. The canned food I'm giving him about 2 tablespoons a day and his dry food 1/2 c. a day, and it's down all the time. I still put 1/4 c. Maine Coon (Royal Canin) down since his brother eats both but the Maine Coon food is large and they are forced to chew, their teeth are perfect because of this food. The vet wanted us to go this route for the first month and then have another blood test to see how he is doing.

The only symptom we noticed was his loss of weight. At first both cats backed off their food so I thought we had a bad batch of food and gave them some canned food we had here. This didn't change so we went to the vet and found that they both had worms. This was treated and we thought that was it. Merlin did not gain the weight back, so I took him back in after 2 weeks and this is when the vet tested him, fully expecting thyroid, which is an easy fix, and was surprised to see the diabetes show up.

Merlin has put on some weight, it's hard to weigh him without a proper scale, we can tell from petting him since we could feel his spine on his head and back... now he's filled out and is playing with his brother at night. He was always a lazy, sleepy cat and played periodically. But now I notice he is not as grumpy and Louie (his brother) isn't snarly back at him. Funny how cats can tell us stuff if we would only listen.
 
Welcome welcome Mr. Merlin! and mommy bean....
What kind of insulin is he using? and how many units?? What were his bg numbers? Did your vet suggest home testing so that Mr. Merlin gets the proper dosage?
I am sure there will be lots of information given to you about feeding low carb food, and that you do not have to feed the script food....My sugar Bean was dx and they gave her script food, I found this site and did not continue with that from the vet...one, cuz of the $$ and two cuz of the advice from here, which btw, worked!
My sugar girl was dx on 4/21ish and her last shot was 5/24ish due to remission: changing food, following advice here about the food but most importantly, about home testing!
To home test, is very inexpensive...meter, lancets, strips from walmart: all under 35ish dollars....
This is really easy, and doooo able!
I will not go on and on, cuz I CAN! LOL
But wanted to say welcome and you will really benefit from this place - in more ways than one!
 
Hi Deb!

With the right diet, the right insulin, and dose adjustments via home testing, 80+% of newly diagnosed cats go into remission. However, the remission rate is only that high if all of these steps are followed. It is very hard to regulate a cat if any or all of these pieces are missing.

So first, the right diet. You'll want to ditch the dry food completely. Even the prescription dry food is still too high in carbs for a diabetic cat. The canned Purina DM is ok to feed (in fact, it's the only prescription food that is low enough in carbs for a diabetic). However, any commercial food that's low in carbs is good to feed. The quality of ingredients in the DM is not that great, about the same as Friskies. And since there are low carb flavors of Friskies, there's no point wasting money on the DM. There are many better quality foods for less than the DM. Low carb, grain free Fancy Feast is a very popular food for diabetic cats: http://felinediabetes.com/glutenfree.htm. Here is a link to food charts that tell you the carb content of different foods: http://felinediabetes.com/diabetic-cat-diets.htm. You can feed Merlin anything under 10% carbs (but preferably below 8%, since many cats need a little bit lower than that).

Second, is choosing the right insulin. You want to have a slow acting insulin like Lantus, Levemir, or Prozinc. Lantus and Levemir seem to work a little better than Prozinc in my opinion, but Prozinc is still a good choice and many cats do achieve remission on it. If your vet has prescribed an insulin other than these three, you will want to return it and get a new prescription.

Finally, dose adjustments via home testing. Home testing is the only way to safely and adequately make dose adjustments in your cat, just like a human diabetic would. Once we find out what insulin you're using, we can give you information about how the dose for that type of insulin should be adjusted. You can give it to your vet if they don't already have it, and work from it yourself (unless your vet is on call 24/hrs a day, you will need to make some adjustments yourself, which is why home testing is vital). I do want to warn you many vets (both bad and good) do not give good dosing advice; it's just very hard for them to keep current with every disease for every animal. Starting doses of insulin for cats should be 1 unit, according to the AAHA guidelines. Many vets often start cats out on too high a dose, and this can be both dangerous and counterproductive.

There are very, very experienced and knowledgeable people here that have helped bring hundreds of cats into remission with these treatment steps, including my own. Like with people, Diabetes is very manageable with the right treatment. Bandit's diabetes is probably one of the best things that ever happened to him--it forced me to make diet changes (getting rid of the dry food) that have made him a much healthier cat. He is the picture of health now, no longer needing insulin and eating a healthy diet. You'll see that this can really be a blessing in disguise.

One thing I wanted to point out, because you mentioned your cat's teeth and I don't want you to have any hesitation to get rid of the dry food for Merlin or even both of your cats, is that dry diets have no correlation with dental health. Both of my cats ate a dry diet most of their life, and they both developed major dental problems on the dry diet. Bandit has two teeth left in is mouth because they all had to be pulled, and the problem arose before his diet change to canned food. My Maine Coon, Gabby, ate a dry diet for 14 of her 16 years, and she had lost or had pulled all but one of her teeth, and all that happened on a dry diet. Dental health has alot to do with genetics, and whether the cat has regular dental cleanings. If you never went to the dentist to have your teeth cleaned, but you ate crunchy food all the time, would it prevent gum disease? It's the same thing with cats. Here is a great link about the subject: http://www.catinfo.org/#Dental_Disease.

Dr. Lisa Pierson's cat nutrition web site is a wonderful resource and explains why dry food can cause so many nutrition related diseases, including diabetes: http://www.catinfo.org

I hope I'm not overwhelming you with all of this information. There's so much to learn in the beginning, but it gets easy pretty quickly with the right steps in place. Ask lots of questions and remember to breathe! Youv'e already taken the best step you possibly could for Merlin, which is educating yourself about diabetes. This is wonderful and Merlin is a very lucky kitty. :-D
 
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