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Thank you all...I was not expecting for this to happen. I was so happy she cleared those ketones because I was more afraid of DKA than anything. I'm sitting in my car in tears but so thankful she didn't pass alone last night on the kitchen floor but under the care of a vet trying to save her. When I can muster up the strength I'll be letting Banfield know to be more careful. She could have passed anyway but still.

Thank you all so much for being there for her and I.
 
Elizabeth I am so sorry there are no words . If anything know what a good Mom you are and that Panic knew she was loved . During my times of sorrow I tried to remember I would have not traded the time I had with them ( which is such a precious gift of friendships dreams love) even with the pain I was going through . They made a difference in my life and I in theirs and I remember every one of them . If you need to talk or vent don’t hesitate Roe
 
Panic has been laid to rest. I put her next to our dear cat Sandy who passed two years ago - not too close, because they enjoyed swiping at each other, but I figure they could use each other's company by now. They gave me a little clay paw print and I gave her one of her catnip mice. It's going to hurt so much come shot-time. I know you all understand fully how much it hurts right now.

DCIN's owner was so kind to me on the phone and wanted to know why she went into respiratory failure. I'm not completely sure, I did ask, and over the phone and among the noise of work I either didn't quite hear or understand but as far as I understand they had gotten her body temperature back up, ketones were gone, BG was around 250 and then she just started coughing and couldn't stop. She went into a little more detail how she tried to help but it hurt to hear how she struggled. I know it doesn't quite matter now but I just think of all your kitties too.

I called Banfield just now because if I waited another day I probably wouldn't have done it, but I told the secretary to let the vet know about the overdose. I was polite, because I'm too tired to argue and am well aware the secretary had nothing to do with it but that's that.
 
Oh Elizabeth , again I am so so sorry, I wouldn't want to hear how she struggled either. I had tears rolling down my checks when I heard this.
I'm happy to hear she is with your other kitty Sandy.
Panic knew how much you loved her, please take care, gentle hugs:bighug:
 
Oh Elizabeth:bighug::bighug::bighug:
I’m just awake and reading the news. I am so so sorry. You must be heartbroken. I was hoping she was going to be ok.
That is good you called Banfield. They need to review their practices.
Fly free beautiful Panic and land softly at the rainbow bridge :rb_icon:cat_wings>o
And know you did everything possible that you could for Panic and she would have felt your love.
 
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Oh no Elizabeth, I'm so sorry to hear this. I really am. I think you and I joined the FDMB around the same time, but I don't post like I used to... anyway I know how very much you love Panic and I'm heartbroken. She knew how much she was loved. The biggest of hugs to you. I'm so sorry.
 
Thank you so much.

I just wanted to point out that after talking with a friend of mine whose husband has worked in a vet office for several years, she said that if not careful with painkillers for kitties they can go into respiratory failure, and she also said that they had given me dog gabapentin, since it was in pill form and not a liquid. I remember hesitating the other day when my vet told me to go back into town for the (fifth) time to pick up some meds from them but decided to go because she needed it. I know, I know, we can play the what-if game. What if I hadn't gone. Something else may have happened but long story short it sounds like the gabapentin dose was what did it. I will be filing a proper complaint up the chain when they open tomorrow but wanted to let you all know. Perhaps we can emphasis liquid gabapentin when referring to our kitties in the future so others don't make the same mistake.
 
I am so, so very sorry. My heart is breaking along with all of these wonderful people on the Board and of course, you. Hold good memories close to your heart, and know you did the very best for Panic. (and yes, please do follow up on your complaint) :bighug::rb_icon:cat_wings>o
 
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Thank you all. I filed a formal complaint this morning to their head office, they were understanding and said someone would be calling me within three days about Panic. I just got off the phone with the head manager at my local Banfield who wanted to know what was going on, and she stated that they do come in liquid but they also offer pills because cats don't like the taste, and that their pills only come in 100 and 300mg. I reiterated the proper dosing amounts for felines. She is going to be contacting my personal vet as well as the vet who prescribed the meds to compare notes on what happened and I should hear back next week.

Thank you all so much for your condolences, it means so much to me that you all cared so much for her and I.
 
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Thank you all. I filed a formal complaint this morning to their head office, they were understanding and said someone would be calling me within three days about Panic. I just got off the phone with the head manager at my local Banfield who wanted to know what was going on, and she stated that they do come in liquid but they also offer pills because cats don't like the taste, and that their pills only come in 100 and 300mg. I reiterated the proper dosing amounts for felines. She is going to be contacting my personal vet as well as the vet who prescribed the meds to compare notes on what happened and I should hear back next week.

Thank you all so much for your condolences, it means so much to me that you all cared so much for her and I.
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GOOD FOR YOU!
 
I'm glad you filed the complaint, not for nothing but that was a dumb answer they gave you that their pills only come in 100 and 300 mg
So why not give you the liquid and maybe put in in with a little bit of wet food and syringe it, rather than overdose the poor thing.
That vet should have known that the dose was way too much
I know it can't bring your sweet girl back but you are doing the right thing, Panic is proud of you right now, you may be saving another kitty's life down the road because of that vet. :bighug::bighug:
 
I looked back on the report they sent me for DCIN and my vet had listed that the dose was supposed to be 30mg and very specifically put that she was hospitalized yesterday for overdose and hypothermia. I emailed my vet to let her know that Banfield was going to contact her about it. I will let my vet fight that battle and if it still isn't remedied I will pick the fight at corporate. When I told the manager that she had been given a dog's dosage because it should have been liquid not pill she pointed out that they do both - so if they only have 100-300mg they've been doing this with other cats?? I pointed out based on mg and weight it should have been NO MORE than 40mg and she got quiet so we will see what happens. I am obviously hoping they do a re-evaluation on the drug if they think that dose is okay but also put in my report that I wanted a refund of the test + meds so I could help counter the cost of her hospitalization. I'd want to donate it back to DCIN for covering her bill yesterday.
 
Good for you. Most health care professionals belong to a licensing body. There is also the route of filing a complaint with that association. It would be wise to right down how the whole situation transpired so if you decide to go that route, you've got the information fresh - it will likely be emotionally draining but you've got a lot of the details already down on this forum. I'm feeling so sad and angry for you right now. :(
 
This is not the time for details but I've learned the hard way to not accept half hearted nods and scribbles from techs and even vets.
Elizabeth, it can sometimes be annoying when someone says "I know how that feels" when really they don't but it's happened to me too.
You both were here for just over a year but it seems like forever, this one really hurts. Hope that all makes sense.
 
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I looked back on the report they sent me for DCIN and my vet had listed that the dose was supposed to be 30mg and very specifically put that she was hospitalized yesterday for overdose and hypothermia. I emailed my vet to let her know that Banfield was going to contact her about it. I will let my vet fight that battle and if it still isn't remedied I will pick the fight at corporate. When I told the manager that she had been given a dog's dosage because it should have been liquid not pill she pointed out that they do both - so if they only have 100-300mg they've been doing this with other cats?? I pointed out based on mg and weight it should have been NO MORE than 40mg and she got quiet so we will see what happens. I am obviously hoping they do a re-evaluation on the drug if they think that dose is okay but also put in my report that I wanted a refund of the test + meds so I could help counter the cost of her hospitalization. I'd want to donate it back to DCIN for covering her bill yesterday.
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This is going to be Panics legacy. She will actually be saving lives. Bitter sweet I know. sigh
 
We could really, really, really, really use help with Prozinc members Elizabeth. @Panic
Both here in the Feline Health (Welcome & Main) forum but also in the Prozinc ISG group.
I feel so alone over there, and could certainly use your help.

That could be another part of Panic's legacy, helping other Prozinc users.

Elizabeth had PM'd me a couple of times, to drop in on Panic's threads in the Lantus ISG group. I was always glad to do that.
 
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I hope you get this cleared up to your satisfaction.
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I know nothing will truly make me feel better but I know what you meant.

Noah & me (GA) said:
You both were here for just over a year but it seems like forever, this one really hurts. Hope that all makes sense.
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Thank you Dickson. I feel completely crushed and lost now. Waiting on my little girl hand and foot, scheduling my life around her and not feeling an inch of resentment toward it, I simply don't know what to do with myself now, literally. I haven't eaten an actual meal since Monday, I'm just not hungry. I've gotten so many texts, messages, phone calls, and visits from friends, family, and friends of friends letting me know how sorry they are. They knew how coo-coo for cocoa puffs I was for her.

This board has helped her and I so much over the past year. I so desperately wanted to beat it and throw a big ol remission party someday. But Panic isn't the only sugar cat to come here and helping them gives me a sense of usefulness that I don't have anywhere else in life. I was about 80% done with a compilation of an intro to FD. Maybe I'll work on it again to keep me busy too.
 
I found 2 pill bottles of gabapentin, each 1 for a different cat. One was for a cat that weighs around 8 or 9 lbs., she was to take 1/2 of a 100 mg capsule every 12 hrs., to keep her from being scared or to sedate her. I found another bottle that was prescribed for a cat that weighed at least 13 lbs., the dose was 1/4 of a 100 mg., capsule every 12 hrs. Neither of these kitties was given a dose any where near what Panic was given. I guess you cannot always trust the people in control. I am so sorry for your loss, this should not have happened.
 
I will absolutely lose it if they call me back and try to blame it on her diabetes. Both my vet and the one that overdosed her tried to tell me she was unregulated based on her fructosamine when I initially brought her in over the pancreatitis. The FRU test said 800 which is outrageous but my vet darn well knows she was regulated because I sent her SS every week.
 
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I will absolutely lose it if they call me back and try to blame it on her diabetes. Both my vet and the one that overdosed her tried to tell me she was unregulated based on her fructosamine when I initially brought her in over the pancreatitis. The FRU test said 800 which is outrageous but my vet darn well knows she was regulated because I sent her SS every week.
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My cat Buddy is unregulated because he has chronic pancreatitis, at times he will shoot up to 500 or more, however his dose come back down. Buddy, has been to the vet to many times to count for pancreatitis and he has never been given gabapetin. If the vet clinic did not have any pain meds on hand it would seem that could have written a script for something, even if it would have been Tramadol, that is a pain medicine that a cat could take. I don't understand what being unregulated would have to do with respiratory failure and hypotherima. It would seem that to be suffering from hypotherima one would be having a low BG rather than a high BG.
 
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My cat Buddy is unregulated because he has chronic pancreatitis, at times he will shoot up to 500 or more, however his dose come back down. Buddy, has been to the vet to many times to count for pancreatitis and he has never been given gabapetin. If the vet clinic did not have any pain meds on hand it would seem that could have written a script for something, even if it would have been Tramadol, that is a pain medicine that a cat could take. I don't understand what being unregulated would have to do with respiratory failure and hypotherima. It would seem that to be suffering from hypotherima one would be having a low BG rather than a high BG.
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I am hoping they realize that too. I asked for gabapentin because it was recommended to ask for it on the board here since my vet said she didn't have any oral bupe. I will just have to see what they have to say.
 
Nan & Amber (GA) said:
Where did you file the report? I'd follow up with them, first, then go from there.
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I called the hospital directly the first time and spoke with a secretary, but the next day I filed the official report with corporate since I had a feeling the message wouldn't get passed on. I only heard from the head manager after I reported it officially and she said last Friday she'd get back with me this week after talking with the vet there and calling my personal vet. Nothing since.
 
Hmmmm..... I might give it until Monday (she has a little more time to make the "this week" promise good), and I guess you do have to allow for the general chaos-ness of the virus situation making it harder to do things like get in touch with other vets.

But every day that went by would raise the bar she would have to clear to convince me that they were taking it seriously, so... tick-tock!
 
That's what I was thinking, so they can have their official week. I was thinking about going to corporate directly again because the hospital can always be "too busy" to take calls and a corporate call can't be ignored. I just don't want to come off as pushy but ... I expect an answer.
 
Is there anything you are trying to do or want from them that could possibly have a time limit? Like, an external deadline where you need to file a complaint with a state board by a certain date after the event (I know nothing at all about whether such a thing is even a thing, just throwing it out randomly). Again, they could legitimately be swamped, but if they are really trying to "wait you out", it's helpful to know whether there's an external reason and not just them hoping you go away.
 
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