Force feeding amount to give

[Gigi and Valentin]

I give Valentin some of his food by force feeding him with a serynge. I do not know how much I should give him each time, I do not know what is too much. He weighs 9.5 pounds, how many calories should he get each day. He eats a renal diet (Hills KD and Royal Canin renal support) because he has renal disease and he is presently in remission from diabete. He does not eat enough by himself and I do not want him to loose weight.

 

[apple]

My vet said the volume of a cat's stomach is 20ccs. (20mls)

I'm not able to help with the other information, no knowledge in that area.

 

[Veronica & Babu-chiri]

When I have had to assist (force) feed my babies, I usually give them about 2 -2 1/2 ml each time, if you give too much in at once you may provoque nausea, and feed him every 2 hrs till I gave him his usual ration. It is also important that you monitor him and make sure he's drinking water if he's not doing it by himself I would give him also 2ml of water every two or 3 hours ( not at the same time as food)

 

[Larry and Kitties]

My vet said the volume of a cat's stomach is 20ccs. (20mls)

I have syringe fed several of my cats. I got about 90 ml into them over about 1/2 hour. That amount is about 3 ounces. Based on that and since that is bout what my other cats eat themselves, the 30 ml stomach does not seem right

 

[Gigi and Valentin]

A technician at the vet clinic told me today that I can give 1/4 of a 5.5oz can of KD, which corresponds to about 35ml of food in one of my syringe each time I feed him and he should eat 1 can 1/4 each day, but before today I have given up to 2 syringes of 35ml each (total of 70ml) in the morning, one in the afternoon and one at night.
He seemed ok with 2 syringes of 35ml each in the morning, but I am not so sure anymore if that was too much.

I have syringe fed several of my cats. I got about 90 ml into them over about 1/2 hour. That amount is about 3 ounces. Based on that and since that is bout what my other cats eat themselves, the 30 ml stomach does not seem right

 

[Gigi and Valentin]

When I have had to assist (force) feed my babies, I usually give them about 2 -2 1/2 ml each time, if you give too much in at once you may provoque nausea, and feed him every 2 hrs till I gave him his usual ration. It is also important that you monitor him and make sure he's drinking water if he's not doing it by himself I would give him also 2ml of water every two or 3 hours ( not at the same time as food)

My vet said the volume of a cat's stomach is 20ccs. (20mls)

I'm not able to help with the other information, no knowledge in that area.

Are you sure about the volume of a cat's stomach being 20mls

 

[Noah & me (GA)]

That sounds a little small for a cat's stomach. My cans are all measured by weight at 85 grams. I know 1 cc of water weighs one gram and I've had a couple of big cats who could scarf that amount down in one sitting. When I say big I mean in the 25 to 30 pound range. The conversion is 28.375 grams = one ounce in weight.

 

[apple]

Are you sure about the volume of a cat's stomach being 20mls

That's what I was told, rightly or wrongly so. That's what his vet said.

His regimen at the time was:
15 ml a/d slurry
1ml clind/ 1ml h2o chaser
1ml clind/ 1ml h20 chaser
1ml clavamox
Total 20 ml

She said that was a full stomach.

 

[apple]

https://books.google.com/books?id=2...s the cubic volume of a cat's stomach&f=false

Page 453 book small animal gastro
Volume depends on health and weight

 

[apple]

Gastric capacities for cats and dogs are 5 to 10 mL/kg during
food reintroduction, but capacities as high as 45 to 90 mL/kg
have been measured after complete realimentation.

Esophageal feeding pdf

No link..... From here is you want to search


Esophagostomy Feeding Tubes
Becca Hodshon, DVM, DACVS
BluePearl Veterinary Partners
Louisville, Kentucky

Page 66 cliniciansbrief.com • February 2014
Karen M. Tobias, DVM, MS, DACVS
University of Tennessee

 

[apple]

https://m.facebook.com/mathofcats/posts/523882251053684

This says 244 mls.......

Interesting topic. Now I'm curious about stomach volume.

 

[Noah & me (GA)]

From someone who's OCD is mostly based on math (should never have taken those courses in Excel) in a lot of cases "the average" is a meaningless term. Kobiashi was 30 pounds when we adopted him. Don't get me going apple!

 

[Veronica & Babu-chiri]

Are you sure about the volume of a cat's stomach being 20mls

I really don't know about the volume of the stomach but in any case after a few hours it will be empty again and you can give some more food, that's why my vet recommended feeding every 2 hours in little bits, and take as the total amount to be given his regular daily portion, for Babu and one of my cyvies it would be around one and a half 3 oz can (wish they would eat a little bit more) but each kitty is a little bit different some are very good eaters others just eat a little bit and you don´t want to feed him more than he is used to to avoid him feeling bad

 

[apple]

From someone who's OCD is mostly based on math (should never have taken those courses in Excel) in a lot of cases "the average" is a meaningless term. Kobiashi was 30 pounds when we adopted him. Don't get me going apple!

I never questioned the 20mls until this thread was started.

I'm not glad to hear someone has to force feed and not meaning to get you started @Noah & me ......AM glad to be learning more to help take care of my cat.

Agreed..... many terms are relative to how they are used. Someone 5 ft 8 inches may feel tall.....ask someone 6 ft 2 inches if the 5'8" person is tall and the answer would probable be no. It's all relative.

 

[Noah & me (GA)]

Everything's fine here apple. "Getting me started" to someone with my kind of OCD just means my grey matter will start vibrating, nothing nasty implied. With our first sugar cat Nigel I think our vet was waiting for the day I would do a Power-Point presentation along with printed pie charts for the staff. That's the kind of nutty OCD I have, just a busy mind. And I never finish things, and sometimes I count red cars, or telephone poles, or green houses... And for God's sake don't ask me about square roots, too late! Arghh!

 

[apple]

Everything's fine here apple. "Getting me started" to someone with my kind of OCD just means my grey matter will start vibrating, nothing nasty implied. With our first sugar cat Nigel I think our vet was waiting for the day I would do a Power-Point presentation along with printed pie charts for the staff. That's the kind of nutty OCD I have, just a busy mind. And I never finish things, and sometimes I count red cars, or telephone poles, or green houses... And for God's sake don't ask me about square roots, too late! Arghh!

I understand.

........canned goods in order by size, height, label forward organized in and aesthetically pleasing visual for when you open the cupboard door.

I do have a general understanding.

 

[Noah & me (GA)]

Oh no, not that kind of OCD. It's a mess in here but the way my sister lays out magazines on her coffee table you'd think she uses a ruler. I saw a fridge magnet today, "Martha Stewart does not live here". I used to mess with my sister's head by moving things around in her house or in her fridge. That's where the "disorder" in OCD comes from. I can laugh about it but she's in denial.
We still haven't had our snooping discussion yet. Just a quickie; click on anyone's profile then click on their location and Google Maps pops up. I found that one by accident. I think mine just says Earth.