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Jena4277 said:
I gave her 1.0 to see how she cruises on that. (Couldn’t wait any longer, no worries)
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Just seeing this now. This looks like a big bounce after those greens yesterday. Try for a before bed test to see if she's starting to come down off the trampoline. :)
 
Whoops so sorry! Had some crazy traffic on the way home today..I think Kris is right and you're seeing some major bouncing. Good news is this should give you some good data to see what 1 unit does on a bounce like this!
 
Rachel said:
Whoops so sorry! Had some crazy traffic on the way home today..I think Kris is right and you're seeing some major bouncing. Good news is this should give you some good data to see what 1 unit does on a bounce like this!
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No problem. At +3 she is 94. Man oh Man what a dive
 
She takes a bit to finish her 5pm dinner so she will be snacking on leftovers soon - if not in the next 30 or so ill try to entice her by heating it up she likes a good porridge lol
 
Just did a +4 bc I don’t think I’m gonna make it another hour it was 124. I cannot tell if she ate. Will continue with 1 in the AM and post.
 
Looks like a bounce from last night's low numbers to me. How'd she eat this morning? Can you leave food out for Abby during the day? I can't recall...
 
Rachel said:
Looks like a bounce from last night's low numbers to me. How'd she eat this morning? Can you leave food out for Abby during the day? I can't recall...
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I always leave food out for her and mom is home to replenish fresh food which happens about 2 - 3 times before dinner. When I left she had half of her breakfast eaten (half of a 3oz can). She will finish the bowl and also the supplementary meals by mom by her dinnertime.
I am optimistic with keeping the same dose in hopes she will balance out. :)
 
She is 392. Eveything was eaten when I got home today, but she hasnt touched her dinner yet...she is sleeping. Keeping an eye out for nausea round 2.....
 
Gotta be honest, I miss the greens already. Although at least you'll get to sleep well tonight.

Have you started the thyroid meds? How are her p-titis symptoms? (you can answer tomorrow if you're heading to bed - not urgent questions, just curious)
 
Djamila said:
Gotta be honest, I miss the greens already. Although at least you'll get to sleep well tonight.

Have you started the thyroid meds? How are her p-titis symptoms? (you can answer tomorrow if you're heading to bed - not urgent questions, just curious)
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Bad news. She is vommitting again. She got off cerenia Sunday. And with the snow coming idk if I can get more until Friday. Can you help me come up with a plan? Do some cats stay on cerenia the rest of their lives? I cannot give it in pill form, it’s too difficult. I know my Vet has Injections but I’ve never heard of taking those home. Today her appetite was less and her pain seemed more. I got home too late to call Vet for pain meds.
Started thyroid Saturday. That’s going fine. My Vet hasn’t been able to connect the vommitting to anything and neither can google enough for me to get an answer.
 
Jena4277 said:
Bad news. She is vommitting again. She got off cerenia Sunday. And with the snow coming idk if I can get more until Friday. Can you help me come up with a plan? Do some cats stay on cerenia the rest of their lives? I cannot give it in pill form, it’s too difficult. I know my Vet has Injections but I’ve never heard of taking those home. Today her appetite was less and her pain seemed more. I got home too late to call Vet for pain meds.
Started thyroid Saturday. That’s going fine. My Vet hasn’t been able to connect the vommitting to anything and neither can google enough for me to get an answer.
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The cerenia is for pancreatitis, right? Pancreatitis can be a relapsing/remitting condition so theoretically she shouldn’t need cerenia all the time, only when a flare is happening. Be aware, too, that felimazole can cause vomiting and poor appetite. It might be hard to separate out which is causing the vomiting.
 
Kris & Teasel said:
The cerenia is for pancreatitis, right? Pancreatitis can be a relapsing/remitting condition so theoretically she shouldn’t need cerenia all the time, only when a flare is happening. Be aware, too, that felimazole can cause vomiting and poor appetite. It might be hard to separate out which is causing the vomiting.
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Yes the cerenia is for her p-titis. How long can a flare last? Hers is almost a week now. She had been vommitting almost 3-4 times a week prior to any talk of hyperthyroidism so I doubt it’s due to that med just bc of the timing. That’s also why I asked about chronic upset acidic stomachs. Idk what the answer is. Vet also said she could have a mass in her stomach and that would only be shown on a very expensive ultrasound. But at this point I want answers.... I will call the Vet and see what they think/can do.
 
Sam's longest flare was almost two weeks - though there were a few better and a few worse days during that time. Yes, there are p-titis cats that take cerenia daily. Usually if it's chronic they'll just stay on it to keep it in check a bit. Doesn't eliminate bad days, but reduces them.

When is the snow supposed to hit? Is there an emergency vet near you that might carry it and you could get it tonight? or in the morning if the snow is supposed to hold off a bit? Sometimes I have to pill Sam, but a lot of the time he'll just eat the cerenia if I put it on a plate with a bunch of crushed up freeze-dried chicken. It doesn't seem to taste bad the way a lot of meds do. He gets a funny look on his face if he actually bites into it, but doesn't seem too bothered.

Since you give injections anyway, you might be able to talk the vet into letting you do cerenia at home as well. Never hurts to ask/beg.

CBD helps with nearly everything (inflammation, vomiting, nausea, pain), so if you can get some of that, it can help to augment the other meds. I haven't found it to be enough completely on its own, but some folks have - I think it just depends on the cat and the severity.

I'm so so sorry to hear she's having a bad night. Sending hugs to you and healing vines to Abby!
 
Nice! You know you've joined the group of crazy cat ladies when a snow day excites you because you can get some mid cycle numbers. :p
 
Hooray for snow days!!! I'd be jealous except that storm headed towards you sounds pretty serious. Take care and stay safe and warm!
 
First number not so great. +3.5 331. I wonder if I did what I did the other day and didn’t get a good shooting spot. Will post in an hour.
 
Jena4277 said:
First number not so great. +3.5 331. I wonder if I did what I did the other day and didn’t get a good shooting spot. Will post in an hour.
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Looks like a bit of bouncing from the blues. They don't have to go really low for a bounce to happen, just lower than usual or a faster than usual drop (like you had last night). I suspect we'll be recommending 1.25 u again soon but you can ease your way there by trying a fat 1.0 u tomorrow AM or on the weekend. :)
 
You might also keep track of how symptomatic she is during a given cycle. That might help with interpreting the numbers. You mentioned last night she started vomiting again and seemed to be having some pain, if that has continued this morning, it could be why the numbers are higher. I agree with Kris that she may need to move back up in dose a little, though I think I'd move to the fat 1.0 tonight. I'm not nearly as patient as Kris is! :p
 
So not to be that person ...but why did I need to try the 1.0 in the first place?
I’m trying to understand how this all works.
I will try it on the weekend so I can see day numbers, I prefer those to PM ones. About to test again. Will post shortly.
 
Jena4277 said:
So not to be that person ...but why did I need to try the 1.0 in the first place?
I’m trying to understand how this all works.
I will try it on the weekend so I can see day numbers, I prefer those to PM ones. About to test again. Will post shortly.
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Here's the reasoning: you had a lime green with 1.25 u on Feb 24 and a low dark green on the night of Feb 27 (and that was a really big drop from PMPS). Those dives suggested that 1.25 u was a little high and might cause more lows but also send her off into a fit of bouncing. We suggested lowering the dose to 1.0 u to see if she'd drop lower but not too low and maybe calm down some. Her recent data at 1.0 u has produced more moderate lows but blues instead of high dark greens - and those are the end goal. That's why we said you might increase again soon. I suggested trying a fat 1.0 u to nudge the nadir a bit lower but (hopefully) not set off a bouncing fit.
 
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