Did Fancy Feast Classic Pate change formulations?

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Gracie85

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We have been feeding our three cats FF classic pates, the fish flavors, since the oldest one, who is 14 was found to be bordering on diabetes, and it has controlled him nicely. The other two cats are a 2 year old, who gets diarrhea if she eats chicken, but is fine on the fish flavors, and a 6 month old kitten who we've had for 2 months now. (Nobody likes the beef flavors.)
For the last week, the kitten has had very soft to pretty much liquid poops, which he deposits on the floor outside the litterbox. He had no litterbox issues before this, and we haven't changed anything. We did get a new shipment of FF in (we buy 8 or so cases at a time), but it was the same flavors we've had before. Vet checked his stool sample, no bacteria or worms or anything. Vet sent hubby home with medicine for kitten, metronidazole, and a gel probiotic, and hills digestive food, dry and canned, hoping to get things solidified.
The Hill's food is mainly chicken!!! So the 2 year old cannot be allowed to eat it. The Hill's food is dry, and well, we all know the nutritional value (or lack thereof) of it, so the 14 year old cannot be allowed to eat it. For some reason, the FF that the two older cats eat, is not agreeing with the kitten, so he should not be allowed to eat it. All three cats get fed 4 meals a day (breakfast, lunch, dinner, bedtime) but they eat much, but nowhere near all, of the servings then go back and continue grazing for another hour or two or so as they feel the need (food is cold when it is put out, house is not kept unduly warm.)
So, how the heck are we supposed to keep each cat eating only what it should, and not the other's food? No way! The only possible is that the 14 year old cannot jump anymore, so at least he can only eat what we put on the floor. The other two can easily access everywhere in the house. And they HOWL if locked up in a separate room.
So, I am wondering if anyone is aware of a change in FF formulation or sources or something, that might account for the kitten's diarrhea. It would be easiest if we could avoid or change that, rather than trying to figure out how to manage different diets for everyone. We go through nearly 12 cans of FF a day, as old cat is big, kitten is growing, and 2 year old is very active, so they eat it all and no one is getting fat. I need them on an inexpensive food, and on something all can eat so we don't lose our minds wrangling cats all day.
 
The only way to feed three cats different food is with a timed feeders. They make them to open with a chip. Each cat gets their own chip. Its that or helicoptering.:rolleyes:

I buy FF by the case but for a different reason. I cant find their faves in the grocery store anymore. One week its one type the next week another.:mad: Right now we cant find Cod. Last week it was Chicken and liver. I read (somewhere) this is due to the covid outbreaks they are dealing with. Some factories are being shut down (each factory makes its own style. Example= like beef , turkey and giblets, and beef and liver in one factory etc. They are juggling what to make where.I have NOT noticed any health changes in my Zoe. All LB issues are nonexistent.
I hope you can figure out whats going on with your crew.
:bighug:
jeanne

also hope the above makes sense lol its 3:30am here:p
 
The only way to feed three cats different food is with a timed feeders. They make them to open with a chip. Each cat gets their own chip. Its that or helicoptering.:rolleyes:

I buy FF by the case but for a different reason. I cant find their faves in the grocery store anymore. One week its one type the next week another.:mad: Right now we cant find Cod. Last week it was Chicken and liver. I read (somewhere) this is due to the covid outbreaks they are dealing with. Some factories are being shut down (each factory makes its own style. Example= like beef , turkey and giblets, and beef and liver in one factory etc. They are juggling what to make where.I have NOT noticed any health changes in my Zoe. All LB issues are nonexistent.
I hope you can figure out whats going on with your crew.
:bighug:
jeanne

also hope the above makes sense lol its 3:30am here:p

I cannot see those chip feeders working. The two young'uns will just push in under or on top of each other. Or break into them, they are amazingly good at getting into cabinets and closets and drawers and things (my kids are in and past college, and yet we're still putting up baby-proofing locks).

If you cannot find FF locally, have you tried using Chewy.com, or even Amazon? We also have 2 big dogs and birds, so we do most things through Chewy. Well worth it. Usually have everything on hand, delivery is really quick, and free if you order $49 of stuff. We even get kitty litter through them. Let the poor FedEx or UPS guy haul all that heavy stuff to your door. (I think we owe him a HUGE Christmas bonus, poor guy--60 pounds of dog food, 4 buckets of litter, 12 cases of cat food.....)
 
I cannot see those chip feeders working. The two young'uns will just push in under or on top of each other. Or break into them, they are amazingly good at getting into cabinets and closets and drawers and things (my kids are in and past college, and yet we're still putting up baby-proofing locks).
Looks like you may need a Helicopters licence. Mine came built in :p
Hopefully another member that juggles several cats and their diets will chime in (and If I find one I will direct them to this post;))

I dont order anything on line. We get our FF cases from Petsmart. They are usually well stocked. Thank you for the information though It could help others!:bighug:
j
 
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That is interesting, I wondered if there was a slight formula change too, since my non-diabetic cat completely turns his nose up at the turkey and giblets pate. He looks up at me like...eww, please take this away :p. He used to eat it no problem and if I open up a can of chicken or beef, he's fine.
I noticed an oily substance in all the foods. Zoe did the same. I started draining the liquid from all the cans and just added water. Zoe is now eating it again
 
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@THH
I see in your signature you have 6 cats. Do they have different foods that cannot be eaten by one cat or another? Gracie is looking for a workable system for her cats with different issues. Any sage advice to share?
thanks!
j
 
Well, the good news is that Yeti's poop is nearly normal-solid again, and he only went twice today, but both times on the floor near the litter box. But since the second one was formed, tho soft, I was able to scoop it up and put it in the litterbox, uncovered, so maybe he will get the idea to go IN the box now, as both he and Maggie would be scratching at the floor, trying to cover his poop there.

But the feeding dilemma continues. Old Lamborghini, the almost diabetic, who was hyperthyroid and I-131 treated which resulted in him now being hypothyroid and on pills for that, is also nearly toothless from Feline Ondontoclastic Resorptive Lesion (FORL), must have his soft, watery Fancy Feast food down and available pretty much all the time as he is still rebuilding muscle mass and recovering from all he has been through in the last two years. Suspicious that this food is triggering Yeti's diarrhea and litterbox issues, but we cannot prevent him from getting to it. However, hubby shoves Yeti and his bowl of Hill's digestive food into the laundry room at each mealtime, he eats there, but runs out as if he's been punished when the door is open, so I don't know how long that will be okay, and he's not eating as much FF because he is filling up on the other stuff. We pick up the Hill's when we open the door, so Maggie doesn't get it and get diarrhea from the chicken she's evidently allergic to, but seems to be the flavor she loves more than anything. Put some of the Tiki Cat dry fish flavor we have in a bowl up on a window-table where Yeti and Maggie can get it, but not Lamborghini because he can't jump anymore, hoping to keep Yeti mostly off the FF until this settles, and Maggie satisfied that she's getting some dry also, without her fighting to get into the chicken Hill's if we're not quick enough with the door or forget to take it up right away.
And Yeti is on his antibiotic two times a day and his gel-probiotic three times a day. Maggie has another respiratory thing and eye infection going on, so gets eye ointment and antibiotic twice a day, and probiotic synacore on her food. Lamborghini gets thyroid pills twice a day. Dog Bo gets apoquel twice a day, Dog Luna gets calmkeen daily (she's too high-strung, vet suggested this may help) and both get a joint supplement daily as well, since Bo is at least 10 years old and Luna is a running, racing fool of 5-6 years. Poor hubby is joking, sort of, that he has to get up an hour early every day to get everyone fed and separated and medicated now.
 
Charlie has also turned his nose up on all 3 flavors in the last case I got that includes the 3 flavors turkey & giblets, beef & chicken & liver & chicken. Fortunately he is still eating the regular chicken. He will eventually eat them if I leave them but not with the same gusto that he used to and still does for the chicken.
 
how the heck are we supposed to keep each cat eating only what it should, and not the other's food?
"Rachel and Jun" got a microchip feeder for their cat Haku and posted this last year on YouTube:
Rachel had to put the feeder in a box with a door to keep the other cat out.

Maybe Lamborghini could use such a "garage" (box) with a microchip feeder "parked" inside!

Also, my two cats are eating FF and both just had diarrhea. Makes me wonder if the cat food was bad.
 
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My cats haven’t been eating the pates as well as usual, either! They have chicken, beef and ugh.. the green can, it escapes me. They used to lick their plates and now they leave a significant amount. :/
 
I cannot see those chip feeders working. The two young'uns will just push in under or on top of each other. Or break into them, they are amazingly good at getting into cabinets and closets and drawers and things (my kids are in and past college, and yet we're still putting up baby-proofing locks).

They have a setting so only 1 cat can get in so as soon as the thief pushes them out and puts their head in...the door shuts on them. I found eventually the thief gave up and the intended kitty still got their food. I separated the feeders as well. I would never go back.

For the FF I have noticed that my one civvie is having more pancreatitis flares and the other civvie has had diarrhea a few times. I think it is the plain chicken pate. I stopped giving it and that has stopped the runs.
 
That is interesting, I wondered if there was a slight formula change too, since my non-diabetic cat completely turns his nose up at the turkey and giblets pate. He looks up at me like...eww, please take this away :p. He used to eat it no problem and if I open up a can of chicken or beef, he's fine.
My 3 won't touch the turkey either but I won't buy it anymore and here's why! I had a horrific experience a couple weeks ago I bought a bunch of loose cans at the grocery opened up 2 cans of turkey and split them 3 ways they all immediately walked away from it well I looked at the food and it had MAGGOTS IN IT!!!:eek: I couldn't see them when I scooped it out but my gosh they were all over the place within seconds of setting it down. I'm still traumatized by it. I called Purina and the lady talked me off the ledge and it seemed like she had been presented this problem before. She said the can must have gotten open at some point and bacteria introduced. I watch their food like a hawk now! :arghh:
 
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