Did another curve..could use some input!!!

[JoyceOlive]

Hi,just did another curve today,and didn't know if I should drop dose down slightly by next shot..giving 1 unit presently.He started at 276 and dropped down to 51 by +4 ,then shot up. Can you take a peek at his SS. I thought his numbers were looking pretty good on the 20th,21st,and22nd( except for a 44 reading on the 20th at +3,shooting down from 169( I promptly gave him some high carb food and he was fine, I thought maybe I should have tested twice to make sure of the reading,but I didn't)Anyway when the vet saw those numbers from the 20th through 22nd,he said they were way too low and he wanted to see them between 200 and 300, and said I shouldn't be wanting to see any numbers in the green.Is that correct? anyway I was giving a nice " one fat unit" and he wanted me to stick to 1 regular unit and don't change it until I do a couple more curves and stop testing so much and just do a once a week full curve.I asked him if I should get up and do a reading during the night to see how low he is dropping around +3 or 4 ,and he said " no, the numbers won't be any different as long as the dose was the same,is that true? I am still keeping his carbs below 8 or 10,and he does not get anything during the night.All canned pates'.Another thing I wondered about,when I showed the vet that he FINIALLY had no glucose showing on his urine tests on the 19th,when he was having most of his numbers fall below 250, and that is why I thought I should be trying to keep his numbers more in the blue and green( and some low yellows) he said he was not as concerned about that as he was keeping the numbers higher. Now I was under the impression that his pancreas can't heal if he keeps going above the renal threshold. Isn't that true? please..I need some advice! P.S...The 1.00+ doses from the 17th - 22 nd. Is " one fat dose"

 

[Sue and Oliver (GA)]

Hi,just did another curve today,and didn't know if I should drop dose down slightly by next shot..giving 1 unit presently.He started at 276 and dropped down to 51 by +4 ,then shot up. Can you take a peek at his SS. I thought his numbers were looking pretty good on the 20th,21st,and22nd( except for a 44 reading on the 20th at +3,shooting down from 169( I promptly gave him some high carb food and he was fine, I thought maybe I should have tested twice to make sure of the reading,but I didn't)Anyway when the vet saw those numbers from the 20th through 22nd,he said they were way too low and he wanted to see them between 200 and 300, and said I shouldn't be wanting to see any numbers in the green.Is that correct? anyway I was giving a nice " one fat unit" and he wanted me to stick to 1 regular unit and don't change it until I do a couple more curves and stop testing so much and just do a once a week full curve.I asked him if I should get up and do a reading during the night to see how low he is dropping around +3 or 4 ,and he said " no, the numbers won't be any different as long as the dose was the same,is that true? I am still keeping his carbs below 8 or 10,and he does not get anything during the night.All canned pates'.Another thing I wondered about,when I showed the vet that he FINIALLY had no glucose showing on his urine tests on the 19th,when he was having most of his numbers fall below 250, and that is why I thought I should be trying to keep his numbers more in the blue and green( and some low yellows) he said he was not as concerned about that as he was keeping the numbers higher. Now I was under the impression that his pancreas can't heal if he keeps going above the renal threshold. Isn't that true? please..I need some advice! P.S...The 1.00+ doses from the 17th - 22 nd. Is " one fat dose"

Yes, we think the pancreas can heal under 250. We consider a cay well regulated if they are in the mid to lower 200s at preshot and double digits at nadir. But I would be reluctant to shoot under 180. The 150/160 preshots you shot were pretty low and then, so were some of the the nadirs. It worries me a little to think about what the nadirs were the cycle before the low amps. (and yes, numbers in both cycles can be different and important If you want to shoot that low, I'd think about lowering the dose a bit. Maybe .5 for anything 200 and under?

I think he is looking good - under the renal threshold and in good ranges. My only concern is shooting those low preshots. It has been okay so far, but it'd be best if he'd stay above 50 or so. Vets do not usually see beans who can test and stay on top of the numbers and know what to do with low numbers, so it may be that he is just generally more conservative.

 

[JoyceOlive]

Thanks Sue,I just gave him his PM shot and reduced dose just a smidgeon for now.I will see how that works the next day or so and keep in mind lowering down more if his preshot numbers begin to fall again.Yes i was taking a little chance shooting with some of the below 200 range numbers a few times.I always wait awhile and let him eat and sometimes retest and then shoot,I know what you mean that the nightime nadir may be worrisome,and i think i should set alarm and get up and test him.It seems he has his lowest point around +4,i am thinking i could feed him a slightly higher carb food right before that time to steer him up a little ,like an early lunch.I am going to continue to try and do a couple mini curves in between the once a week full curve that the vet wants me to do.

 

[rhiannon and shadow (GA)]

Hi,
You know you can save money by doing your own curves, no need to spend that money.

A lot of vets pressure clients to bring them in the the curves done in the vet office aren't accurate due to kitty stress.

 

[JoyceOlive]

thanks..yes i am doing my own full curves,vet has requested that i do one every week or two and send him results.